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PaulKong
post Sep 21 2015, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(kllam @ Sep 21 2015, 04:27 PM)
i stop many times, lost count of it before reaching
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good exercise 👍👍👍

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post Sep 21 2015, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(ru5hd4n @ Sep 21 2015, 11:39 AM)
user posted imageMy New Bike by rushd4n, on Flickr

Hello everyone, this is my new bike.. kayuh around tasek only.
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Hi... Welcome bro!
You got a nice wheelset there 😍😍😍
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post Sep 21 2015, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(PaulKong @ Sep 21 2015, 04:45 PM)
Hi... Welcome bro!
You got a nice wheelset there 😍😍😍
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Thanks bro..
hoping to join the future group trip after have confident enough... now layan tasek cukup la..
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post Sep 21 2015, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(kllam @ Sep 21 2015, 04:27 PM)
haven't decide which type of brakes yet, the BB5 mentioned is on my Java Fit. just got my hands on a used Tern Link C7 for a really good price, most probably will mod the C7 first and put the MTB frame on hold first. was thinking of either mod to 18 or 20 speed. which do u think is more suitable?

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i stop many times, lost count of it before reaching
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To mod the Tern C7 to 18 or 20 speed, you have to change the wheelsets as well. You can change the hubs alone if you want to save but the rims are also not a good one. Usually they pair the rims with single walled rims which are soft and broad as well. You can't fit the Duranos or any narrow tires on it. So, it makes better sense to just change the whole wheelset. A sealed bearing set can be had for RM400 , give and take 50 bucks. As for 18 speed or 20 speed, that depends on you.

For 18 speed, it means 11T/32T or 34T rear cassette (cogs) and you can use mountain bike RDs. This means shifters, chains and RDs are aplenty to choose from. The front most definitely be road bike set up. A 52T or 53T/39T chainrings. You can't find mountain bike FDs that can fit the big diameter seat tube anyway. So, roadbike FDs are used. It will be much cheaper, but not much.

For a 20 speed, means you use roadbike components all over. 10 speed mountain bike components are already 34T or 36T for the rear cogs which are a bit big as the cage of the RD will hit the ground. So, roadbike components are more suited for 10 speed. The biggest is 30T at the rear which should suffice for a 20 inch foldie. It will cost a little bit more, namely the Shimano Tiagra is the cheapest 10 speed outfit, then comes the Shimano 105s and then Ultegras and off course the top Dura Aces. All the latest models of the top 3 models are now 11 speed already and that requires different hubs, rclxub.gif Unless you can find older versions, I guess you have no choice.

I did manage to fit in 10 speed SRAM X5 mountain bike components on the 20 inch foldie though as SRAM X5 RD has a shorter cage. Also you need to shorten the length of the chain in such a way that when you engage the lowest 36T, the cage is pulled to the front and not vertical to the ground. This makes going uphills .........hyper easy. laugh.gif But shifting is not as crisp as the Shimanos. Other than that, it's fun. Roadbike components are designed to shift very smoothly. They are precision gears. I ride mountain bikes with Shimano XTs and they are not even comparable to Shimano 105s when gear shifting. Maybe it is also due to the small ratio changes.

It's going to cost as much as what you paid for the Tern but buying a ready made Tern with similar specs are even much more pricier. rclxub.gif So, be prepared for that. laugh.gif
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post Sep 21 2015, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(PaulKong @ Sep 21 2015, 04:41 PM)
The link you provide doesn't seems to show the Genting perez route you have take. I've add you as friend, though
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When I clicked the link I got what I mapped. Funny. It's titled Sg.Lui BTW. The route is actually Sungai Lui. Genting Perez starts at the end of this Sungai Lui road. You only want to ride the flattish part.

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post Sep 21 2015, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Sep 21 2015, 05:08 PM)
To mod the Tern C7 to 18 or 20 speed, you have to change the wheelsets as well. You can change the hubs alone if you want to save but the rims are also not a good one. Usually they pair the rims with single walled rims which are soft and broad as well. You can't fit the Duranos or any narrow tires on it. So, it makes better sense to just change the whole wheelset. A sealed bearing set can be had for RM400 , give and take 50 bucks. As for 18 speed or 20 speed, that depends on you.

For 18 speed, it means 11T/32T or 34T rear cassette (cogs) and you can use mountain bike RDs. This means shifters, chains and RDs are aplenty to choose from. The front most definitely be road bike set up. A 52T or 53T/39T chainrings. You can't find mountain bike FDs that can fit the big diameter seat tube anyway. So, roadbike FDs are used. It will be much cheaper, but not much.

For a 20 speed, means you use roadbike components all over. 10 speed mountain bike components are already 34T or 36T for the rear cogs which are a bit big as the cage of the RD will hit the ground. So, roadbike components are more suited for 10 speed. The biggest is 30T at the rear which should suffice for a 20 inch foldie. It will cost a little bit more, namely the Shimano Tiagra is the cheapest 10 speed outfit, then comes the Shimano 105s and then Ultegras and off course the top Dura Aces. All the latest models of the top 3 models are now 11 speed already and that requires different hubs,  rclxub.gif  Unless you can find older versions, I guess you have no choice.

I did manage to fit in 10 speed SRAM X5 mountain bike components on the 20 inch foldie though as SRAM X5 RD has a shorter cage. Also you need to shorten the length of the chain in such a way that when you engage the lowest 36T, the cage is pulled to the front and not vertical to the ground. This makes going uphills .........hyper easy.  laugh.gif But shifting is not as crisp as the Shimanos. Other than that, it's fun. Roadbike components are designed to shift very smoothly. They are precision gears. I ride mountain bikes with Shimano XTs and they are not even comparable to Shimano 105s when gear shifting. Maybe it is also due to the small ratio changes.

It's going to cost as much as what you paid for the Tern but buying a ready made Tern with similar specs are even much more pricier. rclxub.gif So, be prepared for that.  laugh.gif
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It's because of this I still hold on my upgrade on dahon route. It's expensive 😅😅😅

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post Sep 21 2015, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Sep 21 2015, 05:16 PM)
When I clicked the link I got what I mapped. Funny. It's titled Sg.Lui BTW. The route is actually Sungai Lui. Genting Perez starts at the end of this Sungai Lui road. You only want to ride the flattish part.

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Ok... I'll try to find out more about sg lui. Thanks
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Hello.
Brand newbie here.

Want to ask if its worth to buy new or used bike? I've seen a lot of bikes on mudah and thought of getting from there.

This is 1st bike and i'm a beginner. Was wondering if a new bike is really worth the investment
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QUOTE(a_man24 @ Sep 21 2015, 09:40 PM)
Hello.
Brand newbie here.

Want to ask if its worth to buy new or used bike? I've seen a lot of bikes on mudah and thought of getting from there.

This is 1st bike and i'm a beginner. Was wondering if a new bike is really worth the investment
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If the used ones are branded, eg. Dahon , Tern, Brompton, Ori Bikes, Pacific, KHS etc. chances are they are in good condition. As for the cheaper ones, you really have to try. You need to first ride and see if there's any creaking, especially from the handlebar, seat post and MOST importantly the folding mechanism. Other than that most items are repairable or changed. So far though, I never encountered a bad used Dahon or Tern.
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QUOTE(PaulKong @ Sep 21 2015, 05:27 PM)
Ok... I'll try to find out more about sg lui. Thanks
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GP's road is good for family outing. Nice road and awesome scenery. U will ride along side the Langat river on ur right. Light traffic on the weekend.

However, be prepare for unbearable stench coming from livestock farm right before the deadman's climb. Have fun.
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post Sep 22 2015, 04:37 AM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Sep 21 2015, 05:08 PM)
To mod the Tern C7 to 18 or 20 speed, you have to change the wheelsets as well. You can change the hubs alone if you want to save but the rims are also not a good one. Usually they pair the rims with single walled rims which are soft and broad as well. You can't fit the Duranos or any narrow tires on it. So, it makes better sense to just change the whole wheelset. A sealed bearing set can be had for RM400 , give and take 50 bucks. As for 18 speed or 20 speed, that depends on you.

For 18 speed, it means 11T/32T or 34T rear cassette (cogs) and you can use mountain bike RDs. This means shifters, chains and RDs are aplenty to choose from. The front most definitely be road bike set up. A 52T or 53T/39T chainrings. You can't find mountain bike FDs that can fit the big diameter seat tube anyway. So, roadbike FDs are used. It will be much cheaper, but not much.

For a 20 speed, means you use roadbike components all over. 10 speed mountain bike components are already 34T or 36T for the rear cogs which are a bit big as the cage of the RD will hit the ground. So, roadbike components are more suited for 10 speed. The biggest is 30T at the rear which should suffice for a 20 inch foldie. It will cost a little bit more, namely the Shimano Tiagra is the cheapest 10 speed outfit, then comes the Shimano 105s and then Ultegras and off course the top Dura Aces. All the latest models of the top 3 models are now 11 speed already and that requires different hubs,  rclxub.gif  Unless you can find older versions, I guess you have no choice.

I did manage to fit in 10 speed SRAM X5 mountain bike components on the 20 inch foldie though as SRAM X5 RD has a shorter cage. Also you need to shorten the length of the chain in such a way that when you engage the lowest 36T, the cage is pulled to the front and not vertical to the ground. This makes going uphills .........hyper easy.  laugh.gif But shifting is not as crisp as the Shimanos. Other than that, it's fun. Roadbike components are designed to shift very smoothly. They are precision gears. I ride mountain bikes with Shimano XTs and they are not even comparable to Shimano 105s when gear shifting. Maybe it is also due to the small ratio changes.

It's going to cost as much as what you paid for the Tern but buying a ready made Tern with similar specs are even much more pricier. rclxub.gif So, be prepared for that.  laugh.gif
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sifu etigge, in order to use 11t/32t cassette, is tat mean we hv to change the rd to long cage? tq
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Hi, anyone here hv the Trinx KA2016D(rm980) model? I'm keen on this bike but would like to know more feedback before getting it, specs wise it's quite good. Initially thought of getting the Java Decaf TT(rm800) but since this Trinx model hv better spec(tires, QR, rd, fd), might get this instead. Anywhere in Klang valley to get a better deal? Thanks.
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QUOTE(basilgan @ Sep 22 2015, 04:37 AM)
sifu etigge, in order to use 11t/32t cassette, is tat mean we hv to change the rd to long cage? tq
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11-32 better go for medium cage rd.previously my friend also had mod the sram x9 medium cage to his bike.the ground clearence to rd are very close.if u using the 451 wheelset the long cage rd can fit.my friend using the deore long cage rd with cogset 13-34 on his mongoose.

QUOTE(Blackbird @ Sep 22 2015, 07:26 AM)
Hi, anyone here hv the Trinx KA2016D(rm980) model? I'm keen on this bike but would like to know more feedback before getting it, specs wise it's quite good. Initially thought of getting the Java Decaf TT(rm800) but since this Trinx model hv better spec(tires, QR, rd, fd), might get this instead. Anywhere in Klang valley to get a better deal? Thanks.
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price wise, trinx ka2016d are much better compare to java decaf..
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QUOTE(Blackbird @ Sep 22 2015, 07:26 AM)
Hi, anyone here hv the Trinx KA2016D(rm980) model? I'm keen on this bike but would like to know more feedback before getting it, specs wise it's quite good. Initially thought of getting the Java Decaf TT(rm800) but since this Trinx model hv better spec(tires, QR, rd, fd), might get this instead. Anywhere in Klang valley to get a better deal? Thanks.
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Call this guy bro, Hulu Selangor Foldies chief:

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He sells KA2016D too. I've got mine (the non-disc brake one) for less than RM900. Delivery is available but got delivery charges.

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post Sep 22 2015, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(basilgan @ Sep 22 2015, 04:37 AM)
sifu etigge, in order to use 11t/32t cassette, is tat mean we hv to change the rd to long cage? tq
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A medium cage one unit can handle 32T already with the B-tension adjust almost at the maximum. Usually short caged rear derailleurs are road bike ones, MTBs are usually long cage with some medium cage.
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QUOTE(Blackbird @ Sep 22 2015, 07:26 AM)
Hi, anyone here hv the Trinx KA2016D(rm980) model? I'm keen on this bike but would like to know more feedback before getting it, specs wise it's quite good. Initially thought of getting the Java Decaf TT(rm800) but since this Trinx model hv better spec(tires, QR, rd, fd), might get this instead. Anywhere in Klang valley to get a better deal? Thanks.
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The listed price of this model is already RM1288 for the new stock. How much less can you get, it's up to your negotiation skill. I saw Jimmy of Kimbell Jaya assembling some new shipments the other day. That's why I know.
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post Sep 22 2015, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Sep 22 2015, 12:23 PM)
The listed price of this model is already RM1288 for the new stock. How much less can you get, it's up to your negotiation skill. I saw Jimmy of Kimbell Jaya assembling some new shipments the other day. That's why I know.
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20% rise due to currency exchange rate... this is what i heard from the bike shop.
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I am going for another Performer mini velo so as to be the same as my wife's. Am letting go my Dahon Dash. Not appropriate to discuss here so anyone interested in getting an "L" sized Dash, PM me. Price now is very negotiable.

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QUOTE(etigge @ Sep 22 2015, 04:55 PM)
I am going for another Performer mini velo so as to be the same as my wife's. Am letting go my Dahon Dash. Not appropriate to discuss here so anyone interested in getting an "L" sized Dash, PM me. Price now is very negotiable.

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incase u had think deeply considering to sell loose (ur dash),
do pm me for the

frame+fork+headset+stem+seatpost.

interested to get those.other parts already had ready
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anyone posted about this before?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/330901...ject_faq_146528

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