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desastar
post Sep 10 2015, 09:29 PM

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Not sure if there are any single speed fans out there, but I thought I'd share with you my latest build. Built up from parts I have left over from previous purchase, swaps and taken off bikes along the way.

Recently found this new Soma Rush frame advertised for sale. I already had the set of wheels from another bike, so I thought why not? The problem is the rear dropout spacing. This track bike is 120mm. However my wheels needs 130mm. This is a Tange Cromoly frame and the owner thought it would be too difficult to spread 10mm. Anyway I bought it and researched the best way to do it. The threaded rod method was too slow and too much work and I was only able to get about 2mm after a long time. Decided to try Sheldon Brown's method as I had a long wooden post. I carefully stretched both sides a bit at a time and after just a few minutes, I got 130mm !!

It is raining outside, so can't test it, but I'm sure it can be hard work as I'm used to having gears blink.gif But the crazy Americans even go off road using this setup, so can't be that bad. In any case, I've got another bike instead of a pile of parts.







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post Sep 11 2015, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(o.d @ Sep 10 2015, 06:01 PM)
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this is my friend play my bike in office. ha ha they are still intrigued about riding to work
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post Sep 11 2015, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(desastar @ Sep 10 2015, 09:29 PM)
Not sure if there are any single speed fans out there, but I thought I'd share with you my latest build.  Built up from parts I have left over from previous purchase, swaps and taken off bikes along the way.

Recently found this new Soma Rush frame advertised for sale.  I already had the set of wheels from another bike, so I thought why not?  The problem is the rear dropout spacing.  This track bike is 120mm.  However my wheels needs 130mm.  This is a Tange Cromoly frame and the owner thought it would be too difficult to spread 10mm.  Anyway I bought it and researched the best way to do it.  The threaded rod method was too slow and too much work and I was only able to get about 2mm after a long time.  Decided to try Sheldon Brown's method as I had a long wooden post.  I carefully stretched both sides a bit at a time and after just a few minutes, I got 130mm !!

It is raining outside, so can't test it, but I'm sure it can be hard work as I'm used to having gears  blink.gif  But the crazy Americans even go off road using this setup, so can't be that bad.  In any case, I've got another bike instead of a pile of parts.
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post Sep 11 2015, 11:42 AM

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What's the gears for? Does it means 21 speed can climb hills better than 6 speed? Sorry.. never have bike with gears lol.
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post Sep 11 2015, 03:02 PM

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I come across this 451 tyres in bbs and this is the only tyres that is wider at 1 3/8 compare to others which is 1 1/8
http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/282359/kend...come-with-tubes
What do you guys think of this tyre?
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post Sep 11 2015, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(PaulKong @ Sep 11 2015, 03:02 PM)
I come across this 451 tyres in bbs and this is the only tyres that is wider at 1 3/8 compare to others which is 1 1/8
http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/282359/kend...come-with-tubes
What do you guys think of this tyre?
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it s a little bit more comfy + little loose on speed.
durano 1 1/8 psi max 115..i m using it..less grip, hard.

btw, where did u bought yer java Java IRA-451-18S-C? wat price? tq
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post Sep 11 2015, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(radiohead @ Sep 11 2015, 03:45 PM)
it s a little bit more comfy + little loose on speed.
durano 1 1/8 psi max 115..i m using it..less grip, hard.

btw, where did u bought yer java Java IRA-451-18S-C? wat price? tq
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You are using durano or kenda? Durano should have better grip right?
I bought my java IRA for RM 2200 in batu caves.
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post Sep 11 2015, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(desastar @ Sep 7 2015, 12:32 PM)
I have both Durano and Marathon on my bikes.  Marathon are much better suited to normal riding even on gravel tracks.  I doubt Duranos can outlast Marathons.

For me I would prefer more puncture protection than speed.  I may be slower, but if you get a puncture, I'll overtake you!  rclxm9.gif
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haha tats a good one lol...btw I was using the panaracer n feel Durano is not tat bumpy...I might be wrong smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
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post Sep 11 2015, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(PaulKong @ Sep 11 2015, 03:02 PM)
I come across this 451 tyres in bbs and this is the only tyres that is wider at 1 3/8 compare to others which is 1 1/8
http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/282359/kend...come-with-tubes
What do you guys think of this tyre?
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my friends used the kenda kriterium 1 ¹/8. its a good tyre and a bit comfort compare to durano.the problem with kenda is the tyre side wall are rather soft (for that model).3 of my friend had that same problem.well, for that name i think u can agree that race tyre aren't good for long used.

same goes for panaracer
its a good tyre with more grip, soft and comfort a bit compare to durano.but the tyre wont last long as the rubber as so soft as i can rated around below 1000km ride only.

i had used few tyre on my foldies such as schwalbe durano, kojak and also marathon racer.kenda kwest and panaracer as well..u had to determine what tyre u want to used.if comfort is priority than speed had to been sacrifice and ssme does visa versa..

currently im using durano on my tern, marathon on my speed and kwest on my fnhon.

just my 2 cents
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post Sep 12 2015, 08:36 AM

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post Sep 12 2015, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Sep 11 2015, 07:51 PM)
my friends used the kenda kriterium 1 ¹/8. its a good tyre and a bit comfort compare to durano.the problem with kenda is the tyre side wall are rather soft (for that model).3 of my friend had that same problem.well, for that name i think u can agree that race tyre aren't good for long used.

same goes for panaracer
its a good tyre with more grip, soft and comfort a bit compare to durano.but the tyre wont last long as the rubber as so soft as i can rated around below 1000km ride only.

i had used few tyre on my foldies such as schwalbe durano, kojak and also marathon racer.kenda kwest and panaracer as well..u had to determine what tyre u want to used.if comfort is priority than speed had to been sacrifice and ssme does visa versa..

currently im using durano on my tern, marathon on my speed and kwest on my fnhon.

just my 2 cents
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post Sep 12 2015, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(Rev (happy.gif') @ Sep 11 2015, 11:42 AM)
What's the gears for? Does it means 21 speed can climb hills better than 6 speed? Sorry.. never have bike with gears lol.
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Do you understand the workings of a chain block? You know, when the car mechanic is taking out the engine from the car, they hang it on a chain mechanism. With light effort you can raise the heavy engine and lower it down as well. Same principle as the bicycle gearings.

If one turn from the front turns one turn at the back, that's 1 : 1 ratio. Usually the normal bike is 1 : 4 , meaning one turn of the pedal is 4 turns of the wheels behind. This is easy on a flat road.

What happens if you hit a slope and you can't seem to turn the pedals? That's where the gears comes in. We lower the gear, that is one turn from the pedal, turns only half the normal at the wheel. This makes pedalling easier but shorter distance. And if you go higher slopes, you lower your gear even more, making it one turn of the pedal and only one turn at the rear, making ratio 1 : 1 and this makes it even easier to pedal up the slope. So to summarize, the lesser the rear turns at one revolution of the pedals or cranks, we call it, the lower the gear and the easier it is to pedal. BUT if you use this setting on a flat road, the effort is so light that you will be free wheeling like a dog swimming.

For a road bike, the lowest gear is 1 : 1.39 ratio but in some instances, different cassette it goes to 1 : 1.3. This is the standard road bike crank lah! laugh.gif There's another type called compact crank which is smaller which makes the ratio go a little bit more lower.

For a mountain bike, the lowest gear is 1 : 0.6 and now with the latest 11 speed from the Shimano XT and XTR it goes even further down to 1 : 0.55. That's how low the mountain bike can go. The front crank's chainring is smaller than the rear. tongue.gif

Hope I answered it in the simplest way. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 12 2015, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Sep 12 2015, 02:47 PM)
Do you understand the workings of a chain block? You know, when the car mechanic is taking out the engine from the car, they hang it on a chain mechanism. With light effort you can raise the heavy engine and lower it down as well. Same principle as the bicycle gearings.

If one turn from the front turns one turn at the back, that's 1 : 1 ratio. Usually the normal bike is 1 : 4 , meaning one turn of the pedal is 4 turns of the wheels behind. This is easy on a flat road.

What happens if you hit a slope and you can't seem to turn the pedals? That's where the gears comes in. We lower the gear, that is one turn from the pedal, turns only half the normal at the wheel. This makes pedalling easier but shorter distance. And if you go higher slopes, you lower your gear even more, making it one turn of the pedal and only one turn at the rear, making ratio 1 : 1 and this makes it even easier to pedal up the slope. So to summarize, the lesser the rear turns at one revolution of the pedals or cranks, we call it, the lower the gear and the easier it is to pedal. BUT if you use this setting on a flat road, the effort is so light that you will be free wheeling like a dog swimming.

For a road bike, the lowest gear is 1 : 1.39 ratio but in some instances, different cassette it goes to 1 : 1.3. This is the standard road bike crank lah! laugh.gif  There's another type called compact crank which is smaller which makes the ratio go a little bit more lower.

For a mountain bike, the lowest gear is 1 : 0.6 and now with the latest 11 speed from the Shimano XT and XTR it goes even further down to 1 : 0.55. That's how low the mountain bike can go. The front crank's chainring is smaller than the rear.  tongue.gif

Hope I answered it in the simplest way.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 13 2015, 10:25 AM

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post Sep 13 2015, 12:47 PM

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Anyone know does local Dahon model come with saddle post built in pump?
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post Sep 13 2015, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(desastar @ Sep 13 2015, 11:25 AM)
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post Sep 14 2015, 04:42 AM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Sep 12 2015, 02:47 PM)
Do you understand the workings of a chain block? You know, when the car mechanic is taking out the engine from the car, they hang it on a chain mechanism. With light effort you can raise the heavy engine and lower it down as well. Same principle as the bicycle gearings.

If one turn from the front turns one turn at the back, that's 1 : 1 ratio. Usually the normal bike is 1 : 4 , meaning one turn of the pedal is 4 turns of the wheels behind. This is easy on a flat road.

What happens if you hit a slope and you can't seem to turn the pedals? That's where the gears comes in. We lower the gear, that is one turn from the pedal, turns only half the normal at the wheel. This makes pedalling easier but shorter distance. And if you go higher slopes, you lower your gear even more, making it one turn of the pedal and only one turn at the rear, making ratio 1 : 1 and this makes it even easier to pedal up the slope. So to summarize, the lesser the rear turns at one revolution of the pedals or cranks, we call it, the lower the gear and the easier it is to pedal. BUT if you use this setting on a flat road, the effort is so light that you will be free wheeling like a dog swimming.

For a road bike, the lowest gear is 1 : 1.39 ratio but in some instances, different cassette it goes to 1 : 1.3. This is the standard road bike crank lah! laugh.gif  There's another type called compact crank which is smaller which makes the ratio go a little bit more lower.

For a mountain bike, the lowest gear is 1 : 0.6 and now with the latest 11 speed from the Shimano XT and XTR it goes even further down to 1 : 0.55. That's how low the mountain bike can go. The front crank's chainring is smaller than the rear.  tongue.gif

Hope I answered it in the simplest way.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(PaulKong @ Sep 12 2015, 11:52 PM)
I always enjoy reading your explanation 👍👍👍
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Thank you very much! Took me a while but I think I get it now. notworthy.gif

Btw I am buying this bike. This one is okay? For leisure only. icon_question.gif

http://www.lelong.com.my/hachiko-folding-b...7-01-Sale-I.htm


This post has been edited by Rev (^_^'): Sep 14 2015, 06:37 AM
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post Sep 14 2015, 07:36 AM

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QUOTE(cybersim2 @ Sep 13 2015, 12:47 PM)
Anyone know does local Dahon model come with saddle post built in pump?
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as far as i know only until dahon 2012 version got seat post pump.later model dont have any seat post pump anymore but u can buy the seatpost pump undername biologic.

i think i saw it at billiybikeshop at taiping
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post Sep 14 2015, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Sep 3 2015, 02:24 AM)
For the sake of knowledge, let's say if I start something like coaching, anyone interested. Complete dis-assemble the whole bike and then assemble it back. That way the A to Z of bike maintenance in all inclusive.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 14 2015, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Sep 14 2015, 07:36 AM)
as far as i know only until dahon 2012 version got seat post pump.later model dont have any seat post pump anymore but u can buy the seatpost pump undername biologic.

i think i saw it at billiybikeshop at taiping
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Hmm... coz I saw Youtube review, even the latest Dahon come with seat pump.
I guess angmo version got better spec than Asian version (refering to Dahon Vybe D7 here)


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