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post May 22 2015, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(etigge @ May 13 2015, 12:30 PM)
For your need, I think MIT would really suit you. It is not as expensive as a Brompton which is the best commuting ( as you are using it for!) , the MIT folds just as small and it's even lighter. It sells for over 2K though. It also has original 8 speed which is also good for your hills.

Other than that, since you are using it for train commuting as well, a 16 incher would be preferable as a 20 inch don't actually folds small either. Manageable , and the smallest 20 inch folds are Dahons. Maybe the Boardwalk, Speed or Vybe. As for Vybe the C7a is lighter than the C7s.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I saw a second hand 1year Old m6l Brompton for RM4.5k...is it a good deal? Im looking for something Easy to fold for commuting and packing for long trips. Is there a reliability issue with MIT? What sort of upgrades can be done for MIT, since Brompton can go for max 6 speed only.

For almost 5k, I think can get 2 x MIT for wifey and myself.
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post May 22 2015, 01:41 PM

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Contact rivern yong, he own mit for some time already.
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post May 22 2015, 01:42 PM

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anykti, only 299, nothing to lose. hope it arrive and you can try biggrin.gif
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one arrived, another next week. cos i ordered 1 day apart due to refunds also one day apart.
will try it out tomorrow, hehe.
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post May 22 2015, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(allic @ May 22 2015, 11:26 AM)
I saw a second hand 1year Old m6l Brompton for RM4.5k...is it a good deal? Im looking for something Easy to fold for commuting and packing for long trips. Is there a reliability issue with MIT? What sort of upgrades can be done for MIT, since Brompton can go for max 6 speed only.

For almost 5k, I think can get 2 x MIT for wifey and myself.
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I say the Brompton at that price is OK, I guess. A new P6L now cost 7K already. That's because our currency is getting more and more depreciative. Brommmies belongs to an elite group though. Many buy not because it is nicer to ride or what ! rclxub.gif It weights a hefty 14 kgs +. I won't describe why they buy though, it's their money so it is none of my business. As for MIT, there are no issues actually. It rides just the same and folds just the same. It's even lighter because it's aluminum so the ride might be a tad harsher as aluminum don't flex as much as steel. Heck, it is not even chromoly but steel. shocking.gif The rear triangle latch might need some adjustments on the MIT but that's just a minor problem. Maybe you don't even need to do anything. It is not as though we will be doing bunny hops with it.

Other disadvantage is maybe with the MIT is, when you need to shift the gears, you have to stop for a moment for the gear to set in after shifting as it is the regular rear derailleurs but with the Brompton, it's internal so you can shift while pedalling, but only 3 speed.

Seriously, the Brompton is an OK buy. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 22 2015, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(anykti @ May 22 2015, 01:42 PM)
one arrived, another next week. cos i ordered 1 day apart due to refunds also one day apart.
will try it out tomorrow, hehe.
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post May 23 2015, 08:05 AM

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Bromptons are worth buying secondhand. Why bother with an imitation if you can have a real one. Resale value would also be better. If you can find a good one at a decent price, buy it.
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post May 23 2015, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(desastar @ May 23 2015, 08:05 AM)
Bromptons are worth buying secondhand. Why bother with an imitation if you can have a real one. Resale value would also be better. If you can find a good one at a decent price, buy it.
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MIT is not an imitation of Bromptons. It just uses the innovative fold Bromptons uses after their patent ended. It's a design of their own. Other brands which uses that fold is TXed and another one brand I can't recall. There was an imitation of Brompton from China, 2 brands in fact. They use the same fold, the same tubular steel and even looks the same. A few European riders even did a test on it and they say it almost rides the same. Another plus point for MIT that I can see is the front FD braze is already there so adding the front D is easier in case you need more gears as you progress.

For Bromptons , you are stuck with the 6 speed max. Although there are bike builders who makes rear triangles for Bromptons to use Rohloff or Alfines it's very expensive. Note that Bromptons triangles are only 118mm compared to the usual 130 mm to 135 mm on most bikes. So, only Sturmey Archers can be used. The MIT on the other hand is 135mm and he you like internal hubs, the Alfine , Nexus or even Rohloff can be fitted easily. Also another mention is, most Brompton owners has other bikes for further rides, means the Bromptons have a limitation.

Just consider your needs and also aspirations on your cycling, then decide which to get. I am just putting a fair comment. MIT don't sell because for that price, many went for Terns or Dahons.
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post May 23 2015, 01:19 PM

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Fair comment Sifu. Just that I hate copies that are neither better in design nor function. That's probably why people go for Dahons or Terns. I would too!
Here's the real thing on a nice Melbourne morning with a BF Travel Tikit.

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post May 23 2015, 01:38 PM

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can put fd n rd sure better than ori B liao.... kekekeke.... biggrin.gif
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post May 23 2015, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(o.d @ May 22 2015, 10:26 PM)
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The ride's stable, just the gears are hard to be tuned properly. My DIY pet baskets seems to be usable though, haha.
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post May 23 2015, 02:06 PM

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i think put ur dogs behind in hard basket better,,, front too pusing, kenot sit kenot stand.. they puke later.... biggrin.gif
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post May 23 2015, 03:10 PM

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Yes you definitely need hard baskets. Your dogs will suffer in that! Mine will never sit still long enough to go riding! Lol

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QUOTE(anykti @ May 23 2015, 02:02 PM)
The ride's stable, just the gears are hard to be tuned properly. My DIY pet baskets seems to be usable though, haha.
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hahaha! poor doggy!

glad that the ride is good. good purchase then!
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post May 23 2015, 03:33 PM

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Before committing to the Brompton, why don't you wait for another week or two. New shipment of Dahons is already docked and this time , I heard Dahon Curl is included. Only 6 is ordered by Guan Chow. This is their second shipment of Dahon bikes to our shores and Curl was already out but they were new to folding bikes and omitted the Curl. Kimbell Jaya has ordered one and should be in the shops later this week. Price estimated to be 4K plus. The one on the right is the Dahon Curl and the other one is the Brompton. Even smaller than Brompton when folded and lighter too. Same wheel size too! rclxms.gif

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post May 23 2015, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(anykti @ May 23 2015, 02:02 PM)
The ride's stable, just the gears are hard to be tuned properly. My DIY pet baskets seems to be usable though, haha.

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If you have time, change the rear cogs to Shimano. The China made cogs are not up to par. I once tried to adjust a Hummer with Shimano Tourney RD. It just skips and skips. Then I took out and change the cogs and change to one that I have lying around when someone upgraded a Vybe with 9 speed. The 7 speed cog was changed into the Hummer and after that it shifted nicely. icon_rolleyes.gif
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wong sifu u sure is curl ar? so far no real production unit in this world wor, all prototype with western and eastern variant...

msia so keng chau can get curl meh...
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post May 23 2015, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ May 23 2015, 03:40 PM)
wong sifu u sure is curl ar? so far no real production unit in this world wor, all prototype with western and eastern  variant...

msia so keng chau can get curl meh...
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The Curl was launched last year already. Here's the news.
http://dahon.com/mainnav/dahon-bikes-lates...s-for-2015.html

Don't know what specs will the Malaysian model will be though! I don't think Malaysian will use the Schlumpf gears for the front cranks as they are expensive but maybe , who knows. It was supposed to be imported last year but Guan Chow guys don't really understand folding bikes so they missed out on the first shipment. In fact I assembled 6 riders to buy together and form a group but the stocks never came and now given up already.

But who knows if those guys in Guan Chow bungles it up. Hahaaa

PS/ Come to think of it, those guys might mistakenly thought Curve is Curl, tongue.gif

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post May 23 2015, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ May 23 2015, 02:06 PM)
i think put ur dogs behind in hard basket better,,, front too pusing, kenot sit kenot stand.. they puke later.... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(desastar @ May 23 2015, 03:10 PM)
Yes you definitely need hard baskets. Your dogs will suffer in that! Mine will never sit still long enough to go riding! Lol
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My furkids are kinda accustomed to cars & motorcycles so they should be fine.

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QUOTE(etigge @ May 23 2015, 03:38 PM)
If you have time, change the rear cogs to Shimano. The China made cogs are not up to par. I once tried to adjust a Hummer with Shimano Tourney RD. It just skips and skips. Then I took out and change the cogs and change to one that I have lying around when someone upgraded a Vybe with 9 speed. The 7 speed cog was changed into the Hummer and after that it shifted nicely.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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It's ok now after fine-tuning while cycling. Well for now though, better parts will be down the pipeline as my wife gets accustomed.

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QUOTE(o.d @ May 23 2015, 03:26 PM)
hahaha! poor doggy!
glad that the ride is good. good purchase then!
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They so enjoy just now first session, haha!

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