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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Driver's Thread! V28, Keep on Keeping on!

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post Jan 25 2015, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(simongs @ Jan 25 2015, 12:22 AM)
i got a iswara 1993 auto modelas 2nd car..started to meddle with it..any idea which sports springs are fairly good...GAB,S RACING , APM , EIBACH...ETC....i want something usable for daily use...thank u all
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keep stock unless you're serious on track

change to some stiffer absorbers like kyb gas or IMP comfort or even propex
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post Jan 25 2015, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(yadea @ Jan 25 2015, 02:24 PM)
For my case If i go past 100 then i think it comes form my window visors.
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if non smoker, remove visors is best.

useless item
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post Jan 27 2015, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(fishncatz @ Jan 27 2015, 09:25 PM)
Recently i just change my transmission oil to Redline MTL 75/80 gear oil for my lmst. But the gear still notchy and need to push until heard "gruk" sound nie engaged to next gear.

Is the gear synchronizer and bearing kong ady? I asked my regular foreman bout it, he said that the costing to do a rebuilt will be 1.5k above. You guys recommend recond gb or used/ hafkat gb? Wira 1.3/ 1.5 gearbox boleh masuk ka?  sad.gif

Can find back vrbe gearbox for lmst? I really full of question  blush.gif
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personally, lets hope red line can re condition your gearbox as i know for a fact that it's loaded with additives wink.gif
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give it say, few months/few k km and see if it smoothens.
if not then you can decide if you want to recond/rebuild the gb, or transplant.
personally i would prefer recond/rebuilding even though it typically is the costlier choice.
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post Jan 27 2015, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(fishncatz @ Jan 27 2015, 10:04 PM)
Thanks for the info. Just hope for the best to come  smile.gif . If still act the same way, i might change the whole gb.

Btw, VRAC and VRBE gear ratio is different from each other, which gb produce more pickup?
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no very certain since i never had manual for the saga/iswara, mine is auto.
however from the gear ratios alone, (if i don't mess up on how to read ratios lol) D should have more pickup however would lose out on top speed smile.gif

other sifu do correct me if i'm wrong.
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post Jan 30 2015, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(mynameisjude @ Jan 29 2015, 07:47 PM)
Hello guys, need an opinion on an issues ;

1. My drive shaft is starting to give problem ; did change boot cover on time .

Headache now is my inner side shaft is using wira while outer side is using saga/iswara .

Workshop advise me to change gear box so that the the "teeth" is the same .  Any opinion?

2. Got an offer for a friend selling his UR bar ; strut , fender , room bar ,rear upper, rear trunk and axle for RM 500 . Is it worthy? any experience using this sort of stuff?

Hope to hear a reply. Any feedback is helpful
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if you're not serious of handling/risk making handling worse, forget about any bars.

alternatively if you're in KL, my car does have *most* of the bars installed and you're welcome to try how it's like before making a final decision.
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post Jan 30 2015, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 29 2015, 09:52 PM)
I use. TIGALAMPAU! Hard to install lar wub.gif , but rather not to spot weld my engine bay whistling.gif

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sadly, can't install on mine sad.gif
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post Jan 30 2015, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(yewwing @ Jan 30 2015, 02:29 PM)
But i got most of the bar installed wo...
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matter of perception/preference biggrin.gif

i do like some of the bars, not all though.
Rear ARB and front strut that requires welded brackets for example.

granted, the rear arb does have its uses, however for most drivers, they are better off without it.

On a side note: my new inspira, only ori Mitsubishi front strut enough.
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post Jan 30 2015, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(yewwing @ Jan 30 2015, 02:39 PM)
Personally, i like side bar, mid lower, fender bar, room bar, rear strut, and front ARB (not forget the sangkar guling)
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hmm the only bars i like are probably the side and fender bars laugh.gif
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post Jan 30 2015, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 30 2015, 05:00 PM)
Try the room bar plis whistling.gif You're gonna get a huge surprise how well the car handle even if that piece of metal is not related to handling at all whistling.gif
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i go fix the suspensions first la lol
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post Jan 31 2015, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(myroy @ Jan 31 2015, 01:36 AM)
Gusy do we have LYN SAGA CLUB?
sticker something like that?
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nope; however i believe they have the 4g1 series facebook club stickers
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post Feb 2 2015, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Feb 2 2015, 05:59 AM)
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pretty much.
For me i keep it simple - if want means want, don't want means don't want. period.

as for the stickers, i'm on no as i'm no fan of stickers nod.gif
ps: i still got some PERFORMANCE stickers to give away from the brands i buy lol
AFAIK i got red line, motul, i think NRG? umm wonder if got more lol
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post Feb 9 2015, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Feb 9 2015, 05:48 AM)
Transmission fluid for gebox. Thick and lasak

Engine oil for engine. Thin and strong detergent to prevent acidic due to hot working environment

Both can't be exchange use. Gebox oil will jam the engine due to too heavy; engine oil can't cope with transmission kinda heavy friction working environment.
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to add in, while the specification of SAE for transmission fluid and engine oil is different, the actual viscosity can be the same.
so to say transmission/gear oil is thicker than engine oil is incorrect.

example:
SAE Viscosity Grade (Motor Oil) 5W30
SAE Viscosity Grade (Gear Oil) 75W80

http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?product=50204
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Vis @ 100°C, cSt 10.4
Vis @ 40°C, cSt 54.1

http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=142&pcid=21
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Vis @ 100°C, cSt 11.6
Vis @ 40°C, cSt 69

with this, the engine oil is actually thicker than the gear oil! smile.gif

additionally, detergent is not so much to prevent acidity of the lubricant, more so to be able to clean/neutralize carbon/combustion blow by and keep it in suspension within the oil smile.gif
there are of course other additives (working along side with detergent) to prevent the oxidization/varnish/acidity of the oil.

As a matter of fact, depending on your driving conditions, transmission can actually be much hotter than your engine oil (remember what i have experienced in my gear oil?) as your engine oil has radiator/coolant to help maintain temperatures, while the gear oil's only way to cool itself is the transmission case which is thick galvanised steel or something (IINM anyways) and those aren't exactly the best materials for heat conductivity sad.gif

the main reason gear oil cannot be use in an engine is due to the lack of detergent/dispersant additives, while for engine generally it is as you said, as that is made way for detergent/dispersant additives in favor over friction modifiers. nod.gif

interesting as to how i am answering similar things on both threads sweat.gif
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=72920484

can consider looking up reports explanation such as this:
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/report-explanation.php
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delsoo
please consider reading the first page of this thread as well as this thread:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3310512

a lot of your questions have been widely available around these forums on various threads (or even google)
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post Feb 9 2015, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Feb 9 2015, 09:45 PM)
Ordinary question, gib ordinary answer. This will make you sound a lot more "friendly" nod.gif
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people who knows me enough will get there eventually laugh.gif
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post Feb 9 2015, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Feb 9 2015, 10:26 PM)
The trouble is, how many of them(us) know you well enough whistling.gif
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i would leave it up to fate tongue.gif
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post Feb 12 2015, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Feb 12 2015, 05:45 AM)
My experience tells me your car was involved in an extremely bad accident before. By the look of it, the C pillar has been compressed and heat treated in order to pull it back out. Looking at the wavy metallic painted surface, suggest that was patching of silicone/fibre putty. Edge of the rear windscreen sealant shows the rear windscreen may be changed/not factory fitted. The crack you shown, may not be a sign of metal fatigue, high chance it was a putty crack in my opinion. I do believe, if it's a metal crack, the fatigue site would have shown enormous of rust trails.

Regardless ayam right or wrong, please do send your car to bodyshop for checking. It is very dangerous if it really is a metal fatigue. Your car could goes disintegrated while you're driving. Endanger your life, your other occupants and other road user's life as well.

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i was going to say crack due to metal fatigue, but i guess what you posted made more sense.
thanks for sharing thumbup.gif
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post Feb 12 2015, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Feb 12 2015, 08:36 PM)
Been seeing too many dead pipu's car yawn.gif Nowadays I drive at haiwei also kenot exceed 100 liao sad.gif The other day took me 4 hours from Muar to KL yawn.gif tsk tsk tsk
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I try not to think about those when I'm on the road. Although admittedly I do think about it time to time, even sometimes imagining myself crashing sweat.gif
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post Feb 12 2015, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Feb 12 2015, 10:40 PM)

Btw Albert B your England very the powderful geh. Simple, straight forward, easy under stand. Grammar all ngam², unlike Quazacolt all teknikal jargon kamout from him but pipu dunno whats he toking abau laugh.gif If me ar, hailut.org liao. Mai waifu owiz say me, u ar when ask u spik Engrish detaim ar, spik like dunno which pasar kamout lidat. When ask do ploper presentation at official event ar, even worse. The whole sentence like direct use online translator translate out lidat doh.gif Just a few days ago a porum member quoted me, then directly use Google translator translate my posted England, surprisingly Google translator got the exact Cainis meaning doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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haha i'm an IT person afterall laugh.gif

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hmm the tagging thingy broke lol

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Feb 12 2015, 10:50 PM
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post Feb 12 2015, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Feb 12 2015, 10:59 PM)
It's not broken, it only break when you mix B and ] next to each other. It goes cool.gif <= laugh.gif In order to do tag Albert, you'll have to go HEX, &#66 follow by semicolon will give you a B. So the next time if you gonna tag Albert, you go Albert &#66 ; then you'll get Albert cool.gif . Understand IT fag laugh.gif
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Nice you really look into it lol.

Though, I'm not even sure if the tagging would work.
Easier for me to just use a quote reply lol
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post Feb 13 2015, 01:55 AM

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QUOTE(ca2n @ Feb 13 2015, 12:47 AM)
Anyway, car went in for body repairs. And the crack is definitely fibre. What I'm implying is that the metal part underneath the fibre must be undergoing a substantial degree of flexing for it to have effect on the fibre above. I was thinking about installing the UR upper room bar to see if the noise is mitigated.

While we're at that, can anybody recommend a reputable body shop? Ones that may entertain some additional spot-welding structure enhancement and not just spray and lacquer? I sent in my car for a full body spray in USJ 1 a few years back and judging by the quality you see in the photos, well....
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as for the UR upper room bar (assuming you mean rear upper bar, installed near rear windshield), i would strongly advise you to pin point/identify the source of noise before hastily adding bars.
more often than not these bars would add noise more than removing noise.
personally i have the upper bar as well and i'm not even entirely sure if it helps more so for your objectives laugh.gif

i did my car's repair at this place:
https://www.google.com.my/maps/place/1,+Jal...afcffd989?hl=en

as you may have known/read, my entire front was fully rebuilt, and rear also did a cut/spot weld at the spot you experienced crack as well so i'm quite confident they can do a decent job for you.
pricing may not be cheap though, so best if you get a quotation while looking other places, compare prices/workshops etc and decide yourself.
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post Feb 16 2015, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(Albert B @ Feb 16 2015, 02:32 PM)
From your description, it is your CV joint gaiter that is broken, and the rotation is sending grease to the shaft, the track arm etc?

Not sure of the costs as my gaiters for CV joint are still ok (surprisingly for more than 10 years). From past experience, the rubber gaiters are not expensive, unless you have to change the CV joints too. see this website:
http://tacra.blogspot.com/2011/02/driveshaft-boot.html
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CV joint boot/cover are quite cheap, in the 10's or less than 10 iinm.

the labor is actually more expensive as have to take out drive shaft to regrease it etc.
then may need to top up gear oil as well.

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growth will be unlikely. the car is no longer under production anyways.

if we can maintain this thread... for as long as i own the car (most likely forever i hope!), then i'm satisfied already nod.gif

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