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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Driver's Thread! V28, Keep on Keeping on!

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post Jan 8 2015, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 8 2015, 12:06 PM)
iswara full spec auto back then isnt entirely plasticky at all geh

well, the car was bought at around 48k++ so... lol
to think it's only 3k now doh.gif
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Same like the UK Plotong 1.5 export model rite? I also notice yours different abit geh wub.gif

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post Jan 8 2015, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(Albert B @ Jan 8 2015, 10:41 AM)
What brand was the good CV joint? I also read comments elsewhere that the replacement CV joints for Iswara does not last. BTW my original Proton fitted one is surprisingly still ok after 13 years, just waiting ...

Regarding the track arm bushes, I heard that the bushes must be changed together with the track arm as whole set - is it true? Mine is coming up for replacement (tyre more wear on inner side).
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The bushes sapsapsui oni. More imporkten is the center coupling grease cup. That area after broken grease will leak off. Once no more grease, then metal to metal liao. If still no care drive few thousand KM, then hailat jor. Even after that changed the grease cup also no use jor coz the metal to metal grind ady create gap. The cup wouldn't hold still and emit kok kok sound liao sad.gif
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post Jan 8 2015, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 8 2015, 04:36 PM)
oh no not the export model, the gear/knob, meter cluster is obviously different haha.

but its more... *a bit* of softer touch, the door panels ACTUALLY have minor sheets etc for sound/weatherproof and not totally kosong like my neighbor's ex LMST (recently sold for new city)

thats why i stubbornly/insist on keeping it no matter what biggrin.gif
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Deswai I was saying, LMSS still has the old Iswaga's door panel geh. Half PCV soft touch sponged wrapped on top geh. Follow by clothe finishing at the middle part of the panel. Bottom part also PCV soft touch sponged wrapped jor geh.
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post Jan 8 2015, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(chrisstse @ Jan 8 2015, 10:46 AM)
I saw a glimpse of blue colour lotus style dashboard. Is that even possible? Headlamps you go buy in sparepart shop la...They got sell ma. the signal only lamps 1 pair = RM 180, the headlamps 1 pair = RM360 (i think).
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Jiu noe ar, cap ayam LMST 1 pair baru RM200 laugh.gif I so lorv the LMSS lamp wub.gif Lastaim I even kat wayar of my Iswaga to fit LMST lamp simply bcoz I kenot find cheap LMSS lamp nia.

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post Jan 8 2015, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(alexwsk @ Jan 8 2015, 11:30 AM)
i just changed mine few weeks ago - 10 yrs old LMST
RM300 for all 4 actuators (2 yrs warranty) - gun type - yeah they are too strong and too loud
after changed the actuators my stock alarm works again - before that press red or blue button oso no response, but when replace car battery will trigger the alarm (so i know it's not dead yet)

was told proton originals will cost slightly more than that but comes with no warranty
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p/s to my previous reply:

Jiu up kar up kao kao ady whistling.gif

http://www.lelong.com.my/central-lock-modu...7-01-Sale-I.htm

The reason I was saying the Plotong ori will cost an arm and leg is a legit comparison when ori cost RM80 per piece, whilst this 1 only RM50 full set include the center lock control module. RM300, jiu can self guaranteed for another 5 extra sets laugh.gif
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post Jan 8 2015, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Jan 8 2015, 08:18 PM)
bro...im driving 2005 lmst manual

my fc is very sad....pump RM60 can only drive 300km. (city drive)

Problem
1. I felt that the engine vibrate strongly especially when the car is idle. But once the car is moving, no more vibration. My friend said that need to change rubber....but how should I tell this to my mechanic?

2. Anything to look for to reduce my fc? You may assume that I drive below 2.5rpm (all practical stuff). But I want to seriously reduce this fc....

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Alex ko ar Alex ko,

RM60 if divide by old price RM2.26 is merely 26.548litre leh. How far do you want the car go? 300km on town driving for that RM60 is seriously not bad leh.

11.3km/l
8.84litre/100km

Huat do you expect? Even Kancil also very hard to achieve that figure wei

Nah, let's say if you do RM60 divide by new price RM1.91 lar, which is 31.413litre. the figure become

9.5km/l
10.47litre/100km

Now the 2nd case scenario is just as close to Qauzacolt kinda FC laugh.gif Or my waifu driving a Kampro BLM going tru & fro LDP every working day at peak hours. Yiu do the math lar, again not even a MyVi can get better FC than yours laugh.gif

I recommend you to do full tank fuel up. Fill it to the brim. Make use of http://www.fuelly.com to record every single fuel ups. Every fuel up also reset your trip meter, so you know how much you traveled from the previous full tank of petrol nod.gif Klik on my Fuelly to see the sohigh figure. Damn ganjeong wei. Don't mind between there got kosong cause I don't usually get to drive the car, there will be months with no record geh since my aunty is the 1 who abuse it. laugh.gif

The most recent tank of petrol, I did hypermile style brows.gif I have no particular RPM to stay, but practically 1st gear drag until 3krpm in about 5 seconds, 2nd gear to 3krpm in about 5 seconds, 3rd gear to 3krpm in about 10 seconds, 4th gear also 3krpm ady reached 80kph, then finally engage 5th gear but no more acceleration, like auto car engaged OD liao. Drive above 80 but below 90 , try to maintain speed at all time, minimum brakes, squash through corners even disregard road curbs, trailgate trucks that travelling at 90kph on highway(particularly A permit prime mover with containers, no 三大皇 please, afraid stone fall crack my windshield), tyre pressure at 43PSi or 300kPa, flood muffler with water, early morning no akon, late evening drive no akon, even if akon must be on(noon time where possible drive without akon?) thermostat is at minimal and totally rely on fan speed to blow air, try to avoid traffic jam at all cost(6am go to werk,8pm leave ofiz). I did all the above, 22km/litre or 4.4litre/100km is what I got few days ago laugh.gif

But ofcourse, I think this tank will be back to normal 13km/l ~ 14km/l jor bcoz really beh tahan liao doh.gif Yesterday ady went whack the car kao kao.
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post Jan 9 2015, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(Albert B @ Jan 9 2015, 09:39 AM)
43 psi? must be very bumpy...

22 km/l wow! Best I ever got is 15.5km/l, town driving, like your style, but air cond ON always, and no hypermilling. But I switch engine off when long wait at red traffic light. Sometimes bypass gear 4 and even gear 2 if situation permits.

Flood muffler with water - how does it help?
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My LMST is sport muffler type. After like some 10 years abuse, inside the fiber ady start to degrade. Flooding it will tighten it back temporarily(definitely bad as it will speed up the rust). RPM response between gear change will have significant improvement, especially re-acceleration. Example of after low speed corner when regain speed that point of time.

I don't block shifting, simply because I don't use high gear to ACCELERATE. Any acceleration should be done at the PREVIOUS gear. By skipping 2nd gear will result in guzzling more fuel on 3rd despite low RPM. If you have a vacuum meter attached to your car, you'll realized you actually need to spend more time on wide open throttle on 3rd gear to attain similar speed then 2nd gear. Make use of the low gear is very important. Its never how low your RPM is before you shift up, it's how LONG does it take for you to rev up to certain range of speed and RPM. nod.gif

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post Jan 10 2015, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(isildur88 @ Jan 9 2015, 08:54 PM)
anyone knows good place to change brake on my saga flx in or near equine park?
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Ini mana sesat mali doh.gif wrong tered la bro. Pi sana tanya diorang baru taw. Ini GaGa dgn it GaGa jauh beza wei sweat.gif

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post Jan 11 2015, 12:10 AM

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CHAPALANG KAR HUASH TT

Normal car wash + vacuum = RM8
Additional water wax = RM10
Promotion COMBO = RM15

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Dashboard & cabin panels & furnishing shine(non-grease) for leather use(also can prevent PVC dry cracks) = RM10
Cushion, carpet(not the floor mat) & roof carpet wash = RM170


Date: 17th January, 2015
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post Jan 11 2015, 11:47 PM

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CHAPALANG KAR HUASH TT

Normal car wash + vacuum = RM8
Additional water wax = RM10
Promotion COMBO = RM15

Optional:
Dashboard & cabin panels & furnishing shine(non-grease) for leather use(also can prevent PVC dry cracks) = RM10
Cushion, carpet(not the floor mat) & roof carpet wash = RM170


Date: 17th January, 2015
Time: 10am start TT. First cum first wash basis. Cushion/carpet/roof wash please reschedule directly with tauke, otherwise take up too much of other TTer's time

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post Jan 12 2015, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Jan 12 2015, 06:19 AM)
Hi Everyone!  notworthy.gif

So sorry 4late reply... rolleyes.gif
Hv been kinda bz here & there...only pop in on & off... tongue.gif

Yup, that module is available...@least it was a couple of years back...
Still working!  thumbup.gif
Bought it fr a Seller @Automotive Garage in LYN...
Kenot rber who oledi... sweat.gif
Pls do a search there...
TQ & hv a nice day!! icon_rolleyes.gif

ps. Plss la, Bro YAB davidke20...me no otai...juz a plain ole Gaga user nia... tongue.gif
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Pak. No piktar sharing meh sad.gif Like the module look like what? Hook where? Splice wayar where?
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post Jan 12 2015, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 12 2015, 06:13 PM)
my dad just bought a 2003 proton iswara se edition silver colour . This is the limited edition , right? I am actually quite amazed by the car . The car is not as noisy(engine sound)  as my uncle's 1996 proton iswara , although it's been 12 years old. But it's not as powerful as the 1996 model .I have to press the pedal quite hard to achieve higher speed.  I am wondering how's the fuel consumption .
Any car sifus own the car can comment here pls? How to lessen the vibration when the car is idle? Turn off the aircond?
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Carburetor tuning can lessen the vibration on cold start. Meanwhile, check if engine mounting needs replacement. Power delivery wise, by right LMSS(your special edition model) has higher power output than the previous model(atleast that's what it saids on the specsheet), so I believe it could be dirty air filter that causes such retardant on your performance. Fuel consumption, with the right tuning can easily attain 13km/litre on mixture of town/hiway driving, is categorize on the low fuel consumption category.
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 12 2015, 06:34 PM)
my iswara se comes with 4 speaker . But only 2 speakers are working .(the rear speaker) , i ckecked it , it's clarion brand. Is it good ? I personally dont like it very much and feel that blaupunkt on the 1996 model sound better  doh.gif .Is it on the ori condition? i mean is the original iswara 2003 se model comes with 4 speakers? I also noticed 4 tweeters , but no sound come from the tweeters. What's the function of the tweeters? How to make the tweeters work ? btw i have pioneer head unit.
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Get to accessories shop ask them diagnose for you. Could be loose wiring or the headunit built in amplifier KO.
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 12 2015, 06:37 PM)
how do you know that the 2003 se model is more powerful?( although they are all 1.3, not to compare with the 1.5 model )  i cant find the spreadsheet online . You have it? send me the link so that i can take a look pls.  laugh.gif
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The engine before LMSS/LMST SAGA/ISWARA, on paper is rated 73hp

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The SOHC 4G13 displaces 1.3 L (1,298 cc) (73 hp) with a bore and stroke of 71.0 mm x 82.0 mm. In the Gulf Countries, 90 PS gross at 6,000 rpm is claimed


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Orion_engine#4G13


Whereas later 2003 onwards, on paper is rated at 83hp(due to upgrade of exhaust system), also heard from my magician the fuel jet/idling jet/ has been replaced on the 2006 Merdeka rusty orange edition of LMST, up to 90hp.

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The Proton Saga LMST hatchback was launched in 2003. It was based on the same platform found in the previous models. Nonetheless, it featured a modernized interior and major exterior modifications and improvements. The 1.3-litre Mitsubishi 4G13 carburettor engine was tuned to produce 83 bhp (62 kW). It was only available in two trim lines, limited to the 5-speed manual transmission.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_Saga#P...2.80.93_2008.29

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 12 2015, 06:45 PM)
i am truly a noob  doh.gif what's HU setting? btw i have also 2 amplifier installed below the driver seat . one is quite big (1600w) , the another one is small( not sure how big is the power) . I dont think theamplifier is working , as the sound form the speaker is just so-so .
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Dude ar, since u know u r noob, we tell u what to do you have no clue also. Hence, for time being u go accessories shop and get the Head Unit(which we refer to HU) checked 1st. For those amplifiers(we usually call AMP), it could be fused? Loosen wire? Loosen RCA(signal cable) connectors? We can't be certain as there's a lot of technical part involved.

I don't mean to dis u or being a bitch sounding harsh marthafarker nod.gif We welcome all GaGa Iswaga owners regardless. I just wish to inform you sometimes the otai here is very technical. When they explain, will have tons of crazy flying fish, prawn, crab here & there. If you can't understand, just wait patiently and ask the question politely, many will answer you with true passion geh laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Azure_01 @ Jan 12 2015, 06:58 PM)
Thanks  Albert smile.gif

If I change, new absorber, what I need to change in the same time, to reduce labor charge.  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 12 2015, 07:11 PM)
here not inspira thread wo laugh.gif
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say what? mai yau hai fake lancer fiore Plotong? so there's lots of teknikal term being used for diskasen. sarj as "kon9lan7fem", "dnmgh", "ammoshaft hits the fan" whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Albert B @ Jan 13 2015, 07:32 PM)
Now that you have removed the light, does the icon still misbehave? Does the wiring show signs
of burnt/fused wires?

I suspect some current leakage or a small short circuit either at the wiring or the DIY light
internal circuit, and which became worse and finally fully shorted giving the smell.
The leakage is what makes the icon glow. But I don't understand why the engine ON will solve
the icon problem....
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Unlike other accessories in our kar kabin light, which have a switch on the power supply (+ve). The door suis is activated via GROUNDING, meaning when you open door, then the nipple will bounce out, and the steel plate connected to your cabin light (-ve) pole is touching the car body so the lights emit. Technically, the stock cabin light module only came with + and - 2 wayar, often DIY fler/low stended accessories shop doesn't know which to ground as they only see 2 wayar. Actually the 3 wayar after market version of cabin light, the DOOR is wayar at the door nipple GROUND(-ve), whereas belak kaler supposed to make a hook and skru it on the roof top(24hour ground), so it doesn't stop the circuit even if you open/shut door when the kabin lamp is set to ON.

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So you're right, if he plonk the DOOR and ON to the positive, then the original graounding will automatically becamse a short circuit wayar laugh.gif Sorry unable to help unless I see the wayaring by myself. And the after setat kar no more door lights is healthy alternator having higher carj then the rusty car body can send back GROUNDING to the cabin lamp, that is why he can see a faint lighting emit when after car started(suggesting the DOOR sudah got +ve liao, could be wrong wayaring)

My best bet, he skru up on the +ve and -ve. Because DOOR should always be -ve, ON should always be -ve. OFF is not touching anything. The +ve is always hooked on the bulb +ve pole already geh.

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 13 2015, 08:31 PM)
your iswara 2003 se is 2nd hand one? i checked and confirmed , only 2 rear speakers are working. the 2 fornt speakers and 4 tweeters are not working.... sweat.gif What is clutch lining?
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He mean clutch pad

http://www.mudah.my/Exedy+clutch+set+Japan...5754.htm?last=1
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post Jan 13 2015, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Jan 13 2015, 08:52 PM)
what is that for? btw the clutch is more nice than my uncle's 1996 model . the clutch is not too 'deep' as my uncle 1996 model .
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