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post Dec 13 2014, 02:58 AM

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QUOTE(wankel @ Dec 12 2014, 09:58 PM)
Love the photos but a shame I can't see more numbers.
The ribbed belt wear surprises me, I think I should buy a spare sooner than expected but a question, mine has a 6pk1669 fitted, that of course would be made of unobtainium here, is the length such that a 1660 would be long enough not to be a bear to fit?
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Just 2 days ago I was watching Avatar, had my hand itchy WIKIed about unobtanium and now you are using it laugh.gif I must say you are right, it's a rare breed for such length. However, the tensioner pulley is adjustable during belt change, hence I believe there will be certain tolerance for a slightly shorter/longer belt to fit in, but I wouldn't know whether the said number will cost you a cow to fit in the bear. blink.gif By the way, the belt only cost me RM50, your AU$15, is that reasonable?

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post Dec 13 2014, 03:00 AM

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QUOTE(n3w @ Dec 12 2014, 10:04 PM)
Aiya, at least car feels new again lo.  icon_rolleyes.gif

Mine another 13k left to go.  nod.gif
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Still, it's not a VIOS whistling.gif On the side note, huai nobody try to guess how much the damage is? sad.gif
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post Dec 13 2014, 03:06 AM

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QUOTE(Jusb @ Dec 13 2014, 01:47 AM)
less than 3 years only the car
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Ekzos mounting can break anytime, not about age. So happen there's a power surge during spot welding your ekzos piap? whistling.gif Anyways, according to oleskol CVT owner clarification, that could possibly caused by your CVT belt where uneven road causes the belt tensioner/position wary it's ratio. When that sound(noise) occurred, you shall witness RPM fluctuation whilst your speed meter maintain.

So, you'd better hope it's only an ekzos mounting instead of CVT plobrem whistling.gif I don't know, I didn't have the 1st hand experience. Since u asked, I just put up my comment jek, not that I curse your 3 year old Plotong. I can imagine, if it's a VIOS sure won't have such issue liao whistling.gif
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post Dec 13 2014, 03:08 AM

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QUOTE(someone_stupid @ Dec 13 2014, 12:46 AM)
Yea thinking of that. Hmm I was thinking bout AirPlay functionality. Any cheap entry level to suggest?
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Buy VIOS nod.gif

http://2015toyotalexus.com/2015-toyota-vios/
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post Dec 13 2014, 03:19 AM

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QUOTE(shiroamada @ Dec 12 2014, 10:20 PM)
Hey guys,
my BLM 2008, recently having problem engine oil leaking (bottom part).
I was just change my engine gasket (top part) last week. Then I realise the bottom part also leaking. This is the first time I know got upper and bottom part..zz..

I bring to 2 workshops.
One said need to go to those workshop have jack up my whole car, need to take the engine out and do the service, basically nothing to change, just put the glue one. This shop said it charge about RM400.

2. another workshop I bring, it said very easy job. only RM100 can fix it. Sound big different. I want to ask your guys what is the opinion.

I am staying in PJ area. Any recommendation?
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Need to check where it leaks. If it's crankshaft bearing oil seal, you'll need to replace timing belt as well, so RM400 make sense, but not require a hoist or drop the engine to do it. Loosen up 1 engine mounting will do the trick(ofcourse with an extra jack to hold the engine). Otherwise, oil sum leak? Drop the oil pan and change gasket, put anor layer of spray on just in case. Yes, probably less than 100. Both are not wrong, it could also be just small matter like oil sum nut gasket that cost you like what? RM3? I use plumbing tape to wrap around the nut nia yawn.gif

The hailut part would be, engine lower block crankshaft casing laugh.gif This 1 really hailut.com.my liao laugh.gif I don't think RM400 can settle in view of the amount of work.
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post Dec 13 2014, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(wankel @ Dec 13 2014, 05:23 AM)
It seems when it comes to parts whatever you pay in MYR is pretty near equal to what we pay in AU$, I source plenty of stuff from China to avoid the local profiteering but they do have a somewhat unfair advantage of subsidised freight.
My query was aimed at where the leeway was in fitting the belt but really I should check my own one, a bit of a shame there isn't much clearance to fit a square drive into it.

I put a set of iridium plugs into Daisy shortly after purchase, it looked good when I checked last week during its long awaited first service/oil change.

I'm a believer in using diesel oil but do rely on them having a spark ignition rating as well. You'll get away with the 20W in your lovely warm equilateral climate, and I would too in my mere tropical climate but low W numbers make sense to use.
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I'd forgotten about Avatar using it, it's also a film that doesn't bear watching more than once. Unobtainium is a term I've used sometimes since I was young and employable.
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The last time I use Iridium plugs lasted like forever in my old Mitshi 4G92p. But since I'm having a Kampro, I took the heat transfer into account. In view of COIL ON PLUG setup, provided a Fiber valve cover which makes a perfect combination of disaster. I'd rather stick to copper to prevent my coil packs get gelled. You may wanna consider my suggestion and revert back to copper core. It's not going to be pretty when you seek for the coil packsin your country, coz it aint easy even in the almighty GaGa own home land.

QUOTE(TitanRev @ May 2 2014, 12:48 PM)
Wanted to share another or my amazing journey of DIY. 1st I need to thank a few person that has helped or offer to help me during the hard times.
@Mahihi thanks for willing to go Proton Part center on labour day to try and get me the parts.
@kenjilew thank you for the assistance through the phone and whatsapp. Sorry that I needed to disturb you in such an inconvenient time.
@davidke20 A huge thank to him seriously for waiting outside the spare parts shop this morning before he go to work to help me get my parts and risk being late to work. FYI, he's driving from KL to work here in Seremban.
@V12Kompresor Wanted to help me get parts in Teluk Intan and post them back...Hahahaha
My mechanic friend since college days, Royston, who drove to my house purposely after work at about 9:30pm with his wife and son in the car and try help me to take the broken coil out from the cylinder head.

As with any other saga owner, I faces the same problems which is a leaking cam cover gasket at low mileage. It's either the gasket quality was not good or it was my driving habit so I'm not sure but this can happen to any cars so seeing the leak was really and eye sore to me more than a problem so I decided to do a DIY cam cover gasket replacement and choose the night before labour day to start my work so that I can split the work up in 2 days time and can do things at a much detail and precise pace and I also planned to use this opportunity to add some Hnnnggghhh into the engine bay by painting the cam covers to "uncle look"
This picture is after all the COP was out and after cleaning the cylinder head and covering it with some foil to avoid dust or insect from failing into the cyclinder head. While I try to clean the cam covers.
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So the dismantling job begins, I didn't took any pictures of the dismantling even until the cam cover was off due to the fact that my hands were occupied and was full of dirt and oil. Then I bump into a road block during dismantling the COP. cylinder 1 and 4 was easy to remove but cylinder 2 and 3 was refusing to come out no matter how much force my 2 arms give them. So I know this 2 fellow is going to give me some headache...continue to pull and pull then POP!! the top part of the coil came out BUT the whole lower part was stuck tightly in the spark plug metal tube. The same thing happens to no.3 so I call up Gorilla to seek for his advice...after the the short instruction given I tried to pop in back the top coil and continue to pull and gain FAIL!! same goes to no.3 I then use some flat screw driver to try and pry the bottom part up with another hand pulling it up but this causes the dust cover to tear and I panic...seriously who wouldn't when you see things that are not suppose to happen, happened...

This is what happen....only the top came out the whole bottom part is stuck inside the metal tube. When this happens you know it's rough road ahead but just be patient and it can be sorted out. Don't worry if your top coil came out only. It is still ok and not damage.
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Rubber dust cover broken off totally.....most people would have stop at this point but I marched on as Gorilla said he has faith in me that I can do it.
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Then I give a call to Royston and he came over after a dinner with his family. He use a test pen and a flat driver to try and pry the bottom half of the coil up but it proves difficult and the rubber boot was starting to tear on no.2 so we tried some luck on no.3 see if that fellow will give up but no success so I told him nevermind, I will remove the cam covers then try removing them afterwards. This proved successful but the damage is there already...the rubber part for cylinder 2 and 3 was damage and broken. You can see from the below 2 pictures and clearly no.2 coil tube suffers the most damage as it was the HARDEST to remove. No.3 was still a bit ok. But due to my own concern I started to make some calls and SMS and ask for help if I can get 2 new ignition coil.

From No. 3 cylinder 
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From No. 2 cylinder
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This is how the ignition coil spring looks like and according to Gorilla there's 2 version of it. 1 with a copper center core, and in the picture is without any copper core just pure spring. You can remove the spring by taking out the top coil. You can replace this spring with performance type gold spring or replace the whole coil tube with TM Works which is in my plan in the future.
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On that same night, I cleaned and wash the cam covers 2-3 times with degreaser and dish washer....then I use some degreaser to clean up the cylinder head area where the old gasket sits and take the chance to clean up the cam pulleys and the surrounding areas with some old rags. Sorry no picture because I 1 man show, hands are super dirty and sweating like a cow.

After the cam covers was cleaned and blown dry, I started to tape off some areas of the cam covers that I didn't wanted to paint over. It was already pass midnight and I haven't taken my dinner that my wife had packed for me and I felt so bad that I was not able to spent some time with my little girl as she was sitting at the front door just gazing at his daddy working on the car. Being a father, I stop my worked, washed my hands and went to eat dinner and hug and played with my little girl a while and not long she was falling asleep. After putting her to sleep and my wife also went to bed with my daughter. I continue out to work. I took off my exhaust manifold and polish off the carbon from the exhaust port with fine sand paper and sucking away the dust with a vacuum on the other hand. Did some inspection on the port matching between the cylinder head and exhaust manifold. I finish off at about 3am and I called it a day because tomorrow I will need to wake up early to finish the job and spend time with my family....Family is always 1st.

Woke up 6am in the morning, and started to unwrap the cam covers...took out all the paints and tools burrow a empty box from my daughter's toy box. Use it as a base to rest my cam covers on them to prep them for spraying. The cam covers was painted in a heat resistance white base coat. IINM it was 2-3 layers then I proceed to paint the covers in Premium Gold from Anchor can spray....the colour turn out much better than I expected it was not gloss...and matte which makes it looks much much awesome.
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After baking it in the sun for 3hours...I start to remove all those masked areas.
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After that I put in the new cam cover gasket and apply high temp gasket maker sealant (700 F) all around the cam covers to make sure it seals tightly. Then the cam covers were fitted back and I wash the cam pulley covers to clean them up a bit. Do note that on edges area you can apply more sealer. Also I found an interesting thing....Our cam cover is made by UMW.... biggrin.gif
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Joe u were using Iridium rite? hmm.gif
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post Dec 13 2014, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(someone_stupid @ Dec 13 2014, 07:37 AM)
Why vios? I just wan a new head unit
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When u have a VIOS, then you don't need any other head unit anymore nod.gif Pardon my sohainess, ayam just kidding laugh.gif Ayam not particular into AV(other than Japan/European good stuff), so you'll have to put down your budget range and ask the right question again, hopefully other AV brother will be able to chip in their opinion icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 13 2014, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(wanfauzan @ Dec 13 2014, 08:49 AM)
Ecu piggyback kah
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Yesh ar. Kenot use at all, after use the stock ECU go siao ady, then start to jangkit² until whole kar bcum sampah sad.gif Bought car already sampah, after that become even more sampah.
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post Dec 13 2014, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(n3w @ Dec 13 2014, 07:52 AM)
Ader 1k? Itu your regulae magician kah?

At least gaga cheaper kot maintain than vios, vios must change non stop keep the 2nd hand value high. brows.gif
Go see vios thread, hari hari got complain. yawn.gif

Gaga ok kot, at least no leaking water like persona.
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You really didn't know I'm an actual worshiper of VIOS P42 don't you? I did post on VIOS thread, if you read through. I know VIOS problem more than you know your GaGa nod.gif The only reason I choose GaGa over a VIOS is simply because the used car value for a bloody VIOS is so damn expansive, as if the car is even more expansive than when it was new laugh.gif On an overall, VIOS is still a 10 fold better car(provided you don't drive it like a spaceship and launch it to moon) compare to GaGa.

Was gonna sent Dengkil, ended up near old office area after took stock kena hijack liao. Total damage


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post Dec 13 2014, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Dec 13 2014, 11:57 AM)
guyss, wanna ask can we actually change our gaga alarm buzzer?

im so fedup with the loud and noisy DIT - DIT sound adi.. doh.gif every morning once tekan remote then whole street can listen alamak...

i wanna change to those buzzer like honda or toyota ones..very soft dit dit sound...if you know which type im talking about drool.gif
#dontaskmebaivios  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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If not VIOS then Hongda Shitty is the next choice laugh.gif
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post Dec 13 2014, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(athrunzaru @ Dec 13 2014, 12:37 PM)
come to think of it...im in the same boat now  cry.gif
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IINM RM75/pc nia the coil pack whistling.gif
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post Dec 13 2014, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(athrunzaru @ Dec 13 2014, 12:48 PM)
just the rubber/tube kan? or including the one on top...nanti melt lagi  shakehead.gif
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Whole thing lar, kenot sell separately geh
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post Dec 13 2014, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Dec 13 2014, 01:20 PM)
f*** my coil stuck. ony one can removed now zzzzz
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Use huat berak? Iridium ka? whistling.gif
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post Dec 13 2014, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Dec 13 2014, 12:58 PM)
Happily going out to do errants and then P.R.O.T.O.N. (Power window Rosak Oh Tidak Oh Nooooes.)
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How rosaked is rosak? Switch? Motor? Wiring? Or worst rubber seal hardden?
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post Dec 13 2014, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Dec 13 2014, 01:38 PM)
Switch
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Let's hope it's not the driver side central control panel sad.gif
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post Dec 13 2014, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Dec 13 2014, 01:45 PM)
lel use ngk r sibeh plug ony, dis coil regardless what plug oso after 60k sure stucked one, i changed twice dy sparkplug now ony problem..

magicians direct angkat rocket cover, 3 survived 1 koyaked..sibeh potong..ony part make me happy my engine head looks clean and healthy..no sludege whatsoever..
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Until yesterday 80600km still no break wor mine whistling.gif Today I dunno lar, and no intention to find out until next 80000 km laugh.gif
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post Dec 13 2014, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Dec 13 2014, 02:23 PM)
Y ar? Very expensive isit? Probably hw much if we were to replace that? Haha

My dad jz replaced his avanza driver side power window central control bcz one switch kong..and ori one cost 700+ fuhhhh
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Wouldn't cost an arm nor leg, but looking at a piece of simple prastik u wouldn't wanna pay anything more than 100 regardless. My perception jek.

However though, go check on-line as I've seen DIY repair damaged power window switch individually.

As for da Abanza, got immitate from Taiwan that oni cost RM80 iinm. If u can get Indo version, that's the closest to stock, very smooth unlike the PRC version that everytime u pull the damn thing will feel like breaking a bone lidat.
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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Dec 13 2014, 09:44 PM)
been using iridium for so long... never got COP stucked case till now... tongue.gif
WHY U BOJIO ?!!!
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Will happen the next time u open the coils whistling.gif

QUOTE(kenjilew @ Dec 13 2014, 09:44 PM)
WHY U BOJIO ?!!!
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JIOed ady, u nvr pei atensen jek. Regardless lar, I salute TitanRev for taking the initiative to bcum huait rat. He for sure will dyno prove it for us rather than bunch of idiots go all out wasted marnee then placebo up car up until flying to the sky notworthy.gif
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post Dec 14 2014, 12:34 PM

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RIP in Gombak R&R

Drive safe & wear your seat belt regardless.

or bai a VIOS
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QUOTE(n3w @ Dec 14 2014, 12:39 PM)
You how old di? sleep.gif

Still got curfew?
Vios end up kat bukit more geng wei. biggrin.gif

Poor gaga sad.gif
Hoping the driver is alright.
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VIOS can uphill, but so far uphill incident has no body count yet.

As for the GaGa case, 1 body at the scene, inside cabin. The GaGa hold the impact & roll pretty nicely. Crumple zone fully compressed until A pillar stopped right there. Factory windshield has cracked into zillion pieces, but survived the roof instead.

According to visual inspection, suggest victim did not wear seatbelt, face ended on dashboard during impact, nose broken, both side of the cheeks turned blueblack suggest internal bleeding. Could have been the windshield, but forehead doesn't show sign of impact damage. This suggest poor sitting posture as if the seat set to lowest incline resting position.

As soon as the impact finishes, came the inertia lifted the rear end of the car upward, rolling to the driver side(right side). Victim has not been returned to original position, feet got stuck under dashboard. As soon as the roof landing impact came, victim upper part of his body got throw to the roof & probably snapped his spine at several area including neck.

No skid mark nor braking trail at the scene. According to the crumpled area, show exact same compression level as ANCAP crash test by visual inspection, suggest impact speed at around 60-70kph(could have been faster than that before the brake).

At the rear windshield got BLMclub.CC sticker. My condolence to whoever knows the victim's family. Was trying to help, but pulis arrived & declined it for safety reason. Got oil leak after the incident.

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