QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 22 2015, 10:44 PM)
Hey essel god told you that if someone punched your left cheej then you should give your right cheek to be punched. Ya know?LYN Christian Fellowship V8 (Group)
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Uw, have you imagined the rapture day? What should we prepare for that time? Bible ahows we live in poverty in raptures day.
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 22 2015, 08:59 PM) Nein problem esel. So you are the failure german product ah who think God are exist? Oh I like the budweisser beer. Yes dim sum. Have you do fasting? You need to fast liao since you got lust on bakut the and belacan. You like chinese food more than sandwich ah? I like salad. Salad is enough for my dinner.![]() ![]() Coz young men and women busy having sex since 14 or 15 years old. They don't care about going to church. To them, God does not exist. Oh, that's called Dim Sum right? My favourite is the flat noodle with prawn and belacan in it. Yummy!! Not all Christian girls are particular. What they want is stability, honesty and sincerity from a Christian man. Most importantly is the man need to be spiritually knowledgeable because she needs him to lead. Other traits should be loving, kind, patience and forgiving. Sure not all men have these characteristics, but 3 out of 5 traits ain't that bad. I guess you're ex gf is to blame too. She should be more understanding and tolerant of your behaviour. But you should have been more patience too. Well, I guess you learned from all these experiences and move on. |
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QUOTE(Carlo J @ Jan 22 2015, 11:55 PM) Yeah, I think they are. My previous relationships were with non Christians. I was trying to court this girl in my church but it didn't work out even though we went out a few times even brought her to a romantic place nearby my house. Perhaps she's not interested in a relationship now or me. I know this isn't CC. I will go if it is brandon heath concert.Apart from my sappy story, anyone went for Planetshakers earlier? tinarhian unknown warrior I missed it due to cg. |
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 23 2015, 01:23 AM) Hey essel god told you that if someone punched your left cheej then you should give your right cheek to be punched. Ya know? hey i told somebody that i don't like that calling okay... it's not funny... it's offensive for me. this is the last warning. don't hurt yourself ok -- left cheek verse ? -- that verse i know. so ? my bible teach me to cry out to GOD if something oppresses me... do you have problem with my bible ? ooo... you don't know the power of prayer right... ??? |
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QUOTE(Carlo J @ Jan 22 2015, 11:55 PM) Yeah, I think they are. My previous relationships were with non Christians. I was trying to court this girl in my church but it didn't work out even though we went out a few times even brought her to a romantic place nearby my house. Perhaps she's not interested in a relationship now or me. I know this isn't CC. Too Tired. lol. Work Work Work. Sigh.Apart from my sappy story, anyone went for Planetshakers earlier? tinarhian unknown warrior I missed it due to cg. |
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 23 2015, 01:25 AM) Uw, have you imagined the rapture day? What should we prepare for that time? Bible ahows we live in poverty in raptures day. My advise is, we shouldn't be worried or thinking about Rapture day.We should be thinking about Today, building our life with Christ daily. Because if we practise our Faith consistently, we will always be ready, come what may, rapture day, the millennia even our appointed day of passing away. Rich or Poor Christian is irrelevant, both gets to Heaven on account of Christ, not because they're rich or poor. I don't remember scripture mentioning Christians will live in poverty in rapture days. Do you have reference? Jesus warned us. We can never anticipate when the Lord will come, it will come on a day we least expect it, like a thief in the night. (Matthew 24:44) If you are always trying to prepare for that, most likely it won't happen on your watch. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jan 23 2015, 09:00 AM |
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 22 2015, 10:44 PM) Did you refer to the HS for praying that or you did it out of anger? That's why I say when you pray wrong prayers, you can cause problem for people. How can you put yourself to teach or lead people when you have blind arrogance, pride and envy? You are starting to exhibit hypocrisy. If you use God's name in vain or for selfish purpose, there will be no karisma for you in that area. You should really stop all this nonsense, you have NO IDEA what you're doing. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jan 23 2015, 09:06 AM |
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 23 2015, 08:58 AM) My advise is, we shouldn't be worried or thinking about Rapture day. Rapture day is my motivation to become better and better. in rapture day, the dead people will rise right? do you know the idea of what we will do on rapture days? yes, in revelation shows raptures day where we all people are in pitiful and live in very very hard time. please read revelation for more info.We should be thinking about Today, building our life with Christ daily. Because if we practise our Faith consistently, we will always be ready, come what may, rapture day, the millennia even our appointed day of passing away. Rich or Poor Christian is irrelevant, both gets to Heaven on account of Christ, not because they're rich or poor. I don't remember scripture mentioning Christians will live in poverty in rapture days. Do you have reference? Jesus warned us. We can never anticipate when the Lord will come, it will come on a day we least expect it, like a thief in the night. (Matthew 24:44) If you are always trying to prepare for that, most likely it won't happen on your watch. |
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 23 2015, 01:16 AM) If you are ever with non christian it is a lust since you both don't think the jesus' feeling, you both think about your own ego Well, now I know. I was also trying to bring them to Christ (going for youth activities, church services) but it didn't work out so I ended the relationship, it may sound selfish but I rather please God than please men.QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 23 2015, 01:30 AM) First time hearing his name, will check out his stuff soon.QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 23 2015, 08:49 AM) Well, there's still tonight and tomorrow night.QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 23 2015, 09:23 AM) Yes this is not CC, but we are talking about christian relationships, so for me, it counts as part of fellowship discussion. The non-Christians I went out with before were quite conservative so I didn't really do anything sinful.Many christians yearn for relationship with one another. Sometimes we sacrifice our own relationship with God and not place him in the center. I am very guilty of that and I struggle over this sin. Its a good discussion. I sometimes am tempted to go for non christians because they don't put boundaries and unreasonable expectations on me. Yah, like you I also not understand why christian girls are not open to dating guys at church. For now, I just be friends with her first. I need to focus on my relationship with God and if "the one" comes along and I receive the green light from Him then I'll make my move. |
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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 23 2015, 09:55 AM) Its very difficult to be balance when you are in a relationship. Thats why Paul suggest not to be in if you want to enjoy full relationship with God. Women are very complicated and unpredictable beings. Most christian men want to reason things logically through their brain power, so they always get it wrong with their own women most of the time. Even my cg leader, who is a respected businessman with 4 kids, almost underwent counselling and a potential divorce because of arguments with his wife, another devoted christian. Before you go and fly there, pray about it first. Seek Him to ask for the answer if you're unsure. Don't go if you have doubts about it.UW, i am not sure if you are married or single but if you have been in one, perhaps you can understand what I mean. No woman is without complication, they are always difficult to their men. We will swing out of balance for sure, important thing is know how to swing back, but the problem is, I don't know how to swing back. I struggle with this. I used to see sunny and dark skies, these days, even on a sunny day, I feel dark because I feel heart broken. In any relationship, one opens his heart to the girl, if its broken, one will feel the pain. Even Jesus felt the pain of rejection, when Peter denied him 3 times and ran away on the day he needed Peter the most. When the cock crow the 3rd time, Jesus turned his head and looked at Peter. Bible didn't say exactly how Jesus felt but I believed Jesus felt the pain. I have to admit, I struggle to response how Jesus responded when he was rejected. I struggle with this sin. I texted to her and apologised to her. Her reply was that she struggled with my insecurities. She is very stressed up overseas and can't reply me on time. So my big fault because I told her if there is another guy also talking to her. So she felt the relationship has no trust and stress with me. Part of it also my fault. These are the lessons I need to learn to mature. Other than that, she got a liking for me but the feelings are not strong enough, she's not confident the relationship would work. She doesn't want me fly over there to visit her, because she is afraid I may waste my money to visit her but I am taking my chances. I tell you, 100% of the time, you need to fight for the relationship or else it won't work. Its a real challenge for a christian to commit to other things and struggle to put God in center. Yes I wasn't able to strike chemistry partly because she is quite quiet and reserve personality. She doesn't open up to people very easily. Coupled with her struggles with her demanding boss at her newly promoted transfer job overseas. I felt anyhow, any other person would have struggled to produce chemistry with her because she's so quiet. But I got feelings for her, I think too long to write here. Thanks for your prayer. |
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Is anyone here interested in the string theory? I have an opinion that this may be the closest, non-metaphysical way to experience God.
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 23 2015, 12:01 PM) Is anyone here interested in the string theory? I have an opinion that this may be the closest, non-metaphysical way to experience God. There are experiments design to prove it's viability as a Theory (@ the Hadron collider) , but currently it should be more accurately be called a Hypothesis... or a calculation tool |
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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 23 2015, 10:59 AM) I have gone out with a non christian before I met my ex. I found the divide really huge. I am not saying I am a saint but me growing up with christian values, I just cannot find anything in common with a non christian, I suppose these are the draw backs. I too, at first didn't find any girls from church that I fancy but I get to know this girl through my friend. She's from my church but we never talk because she's from the Chinese department and I'm mainly in the English department. But, since my friend comes back to visit us every year, so that was how we got to know each other. Something happened between she and her friend that she suddenly stopped talking to me. But, I tried to initiate it again this year and hopefully to meet up with her next week.The fact that bible says do not have unholy yoke with unbelievers (i don't know the exact verse), by marriage with one is already a sin. But I suppose dating is ok. Thats what I been thinking, if "the one" comes along, I will make my move...seriously its been 10 years at church, I have not encountered this. My 1st ex, I encountered her at a supermarket, we were classmates at college, lost touch in 3 years due to working. My 3rd ex was recommended by a friend, because I went asking around. So I have never ever encountered any girl i like at church. I only encountered one lady that I didn't like, went harassing me all over the place. I have one flaw, I don't very easily like a girl. In my heart, the bar is set quite high, I need to have physical chemistry, or else, I cannot like a girl. Yah, I sound bias, because I ain't no handsome guy but its the way it is for me. I don't seek pretty girls, my 3rd ex is a but plum but I like her looks because she's adorable and sweet. QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 23 2015, 11:03 AM) I did pray about it. I ask my frens, but they have advice me to forget about it. But, what does your heart tell you? Sometimes, we don't follow advice even the best ones because we think they don't know about us but most of the time, our friends know more about us than we ourselves.But for me, its really telling myself at least I done all I could instead of given it up. I want to look back and said to myself, I didn't give up, I tried my best. I am not sure if i could go over there. Because she told me that she is unsure about me, she is afraid that i waste all my money going there to visit her, then she felt that I am not the one and call it off, wasted all my money. |
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 23 2015, 12:01 PM) Is anyone here interested in the string theory? I have an opinion that this may be the closest, non-metaphysical way to experience God. Used to. I might be agreeing with Penrose and Smolin that it might not be going anyway for now. But to be fair, loop quantum gravity is still not as promising either. Or I just not read it enough.Perhaps we need another revolution in understanding what time is, first... This post has been edited by pehkay: Jan 23 2015, 12:33 PM |
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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 23 2015, 11:03 AM) I did pray about it. I ask my frens, but they have advice me to forget about it. Since you really can't stop thinking about your ex, I might as well try help. But for me, its really telling myself at least I done all I could instead of given it up. I want to look back and said to myself, I didn't give up, I tried my best. I am not sure if i could go over there. Because she told me that she is unsure about me, she is afraid that i waste all my money going there to visit her, then she felt that I am not the one and call it off, wasted all my money. It is good that you already recognize some of the areas in your life that turn her off, eg insecurity, not totally honest, no chemistry. Also now there is the problem of her new job overseas and it's very busy. Before you fly nilly willy over there to see her, you prepare her so she is ready to see you, even if just as a friend. No one likes to be unpleasantly surprised by an unwanted visit, especially from an ex. She already says she is busy and have a demanding boss. Take note of it. she says she has no chemistry with you. What do you think she means? Does it mean you don't excite her? Gary Chapman in his book, the five languages of love describes the various ways one can show and receive love. Go get that book and read it, it may help you understand a little how you can express your love for her in a manner she can accept. After knowing her for about a year, can you tell what she likes, what she dislikes? Do you know what makes her happy? If I were in your situation, this is how I will look at it. 1) is this the woman I want to spend the rest of my life with? 2) I have already lost her, am I willing to do anything (within good taste) to try win her back? 3) if I fail to win her back, will I be content I have done all I can? If the answer to all 3 is Yes, then I will set out my plan. 1) sit down and recall everything she likes. 2) recall everything she don't like 3) recall all the good things I have done for her and she show appreciation 4) recall all the bad thing I did and she dislike Write down la. Take note that the human mind has a natural negative bias according to neuropsychologist Paul Howard People tend to remember the negative rather than the positive. For every negative action you have done, you probably have to do 10 positive actions to make up for it. Do you begin to see the magnitude of the task ahead? If I am still in contact via text or what's app messages then it is easier. This is because she likes to read. 1) Start out by wishing her good morning every day. Via text. If the time difference too big you can wish her good day when u wake up in the morning. It doesn't matter if she does not reply. After couple of days, Put nice inspirational pictures with your morning greeting. Some funny, some cute. Just vary it day to day. Keep doing it and when she begins to wish you back, you can move to step 2. 2) Ask her about her day. If she don't reply nevermind. 3) When she begins to respond and tell you her problems at work, tell her you pray for her. Of course pls do pray for her la. Can text prayer also so she see what you pray. 4) If she ask how was your day, tell her. Don't be afraid to share your problems but be light on your feelings. Remember step 1? Keep doing it. 5) if you remember her birthday, send her a gift. A book of course. (Gary chapman'so book? CNY is coming, is she coming back? If I have started the plan today, I have about a month. If she is coming back, I can offer to pick her up at air port. If she say yes, yahoo. If she say family picking her up , ask can visit her during CNY. After CNY over, continue with the above when she has gone back to work. The aim is to win her heart even from a distance. You shouldn't worry if she has met someone else, based on your time of one year you have not been intimate, so the chances of her being intimate elsewhere is slim. I wish you success. |
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 22 2015, 11:18 PM) faith and knowledge are 2 different currency... Where did your faith come from again?all your question are question based on empirical evidence, exactly like philosophy students... it's a knowledge, it's not faith. the one that can heal cancer is chemotherapy (knowledge), but very limited... miracle of 100% cancer cured happens by faith in CHRIST... --- answer prophetjul please --- knowledge perspective: no empirical evidence. sorry faith perspective: plenty, i choose to believe regardless no see, no hear -- faith is expensive -- unfortunately, miracle / faith is very expensive... JESUS has to leave nazareth cuz people there lacks of faith... naaaaaa.... this is the basic equation. If your surrounding does not have faith in CHRIST, most likely your faith will fruitless... |
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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 23 2015, 09:55 AM) Its very difficult to be balance when you are in a relationship. Thats why Paul suggest not to be in if you want to enjoy full relationship with God. Women are very complicated and unpredictable beings. Most christian men want to reason things logically through their brain power, so they always get it wrong with their own women most of the time. Even my cg leader, who is a respected businessman with 4 kids, almost underwent counselling and a potential divorce because of arguments with his wife, another devoted christian. Married couple can still enjoy full relationship with God if they understand their priority right. It's a matter of effort really.UW, i am not sure if you are married or single but if you have been in one, perhaps you can understand what I mean. No woman is without complication, they are always difficult to their men. We will swing out of balance for sure, important thing is know how to swing back, but the problem is, I don't know how to swing back. I struggle with this. I used to see sunny and dark skies, these days, even on a sunny day, I feel dark because I feel heart broken. In any relationship, one opens his heart to the girl, if its broken, one will feel the pain. Even Jesus felt the pain of rejection, when Peter denied him 3 times and ran away on the day he needed Peter the most. When the cock crow the 3rd time, Jesus turned his head and looked at Peter. Bible didn't say exactly how Jesus felt but I believed Jesus felt the pain. I have to admit, I struggle to response how Jesus responded when he was rejected. I struggle with this sin. I texted to her and apologised to her. Her reply was that she struggled with my insecurities. She is very stressed up overseas and can't reply me on time. So my big fault because I told her if there is another guy also talking to her. So she felt the relationship has no trust and stress with me. Part of it also my fault. These are the lessons I need to learn to mature. Other than that, she got a liking for me but the feelings are not strong enough, she's not confident the relationship would work. She doesn't want me fly over there to visit her, because she is afraid I may waste my money to visit her but I am taking my chances. I tell you, 100% of the time, you need to fight for the relationship or else it won't work. Its a real challenge for a christian to commit to other things and struggle to put God in center. Yes I wasn't able to strike chemistry partly because she is quite quiet and reserve personality. She doesn't open up to people very easily. Coupled with her struggles with her demanding boss at her newly promoted transfer job overseas. I felt anyhow, any other person would have struggled to produce chemistry with her because she's so quiet. But I got feelings for her, I think too long to write here. Thanks for your prayer. You're talking about this? 1 Corinthians 7 32 I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord. 33 But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— 34 and his interests are divided. An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord’s affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world—how she can please her husband. 35I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord. It's talking about having more undivided attention or less, that's all. This is related to time. Doesn't mean you can't have fulfilling relationship with God. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jan 23 2015, 02:16 PM |
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