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TSSophiera
post Jan 13 2015, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 13 2015, 06:56 PM)
if your standard is so high, then ok lah i follow.

For me it's good that somebody else (not me) that say like that.
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Jesus' standard memang very high wan I'm surprised you dunno. doh.gif
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post Jan 13 2015, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 13 2015, 06:57 PM)
What about 7 day Adventist
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http://carm.org/seventh-day-adventism


"The Seventh-day Adventist church is a controversial organization. With its founding prophetess, Ellen G White, they teach that the proper day of worship is Saturday, that Jesus is Michael the Archangel, that ultimately Satan will bear all of our sins, that when a person dies he does not exist anymore, that hell is not eternal, and more. They emphasize dietary laws and what many consider to be a legalism, especially since they teach you can lose your salvation. Some consider it a cult and others do not. Nevertheless, it is an organization that "


The first few lines already very cultic though. Remember Jesus is the Son and only that. Nobody else.
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post Jan 13 2015, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 13 2015, 06:38 PM)
some ppl they don't bother abt technical details. you are very technical lahhh... from technical perspective i sure wrong.
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Christian is different with other religion. Other religion people go to God. Our God, Jesus come to us first to save us from sins with his blood. Our God is very kind to us. We are very thankfuk got God like Jesus.no other God can sacrifice himself to save people
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post Jan 13 2015, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jan 13 2015, 06:59 PM)
http://carm.org/seventh-day-adventism
"The Seventh-day Adventist church is a controversial organization. With its founding prophetess, Ellen G White, they teach that the proper day of worship is Saturday, that Jesus is Michael the Archangel, that ultimately Satan will bear all of our sins, that when a person dies he does not exist anymore, that hell is not eternal, and more.  They emphasize dietary laws and what many consider to be a legalism, especially since they teach you can lose your salvation.  Some consider it a cult and others do not. Nevertheless, it is an organization that "
The first few lines already very cultic though. Remember Jesus is the Son and only that. Nobody else.
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So they have nice slim body?


How about charismatic(song is very modern pop rock), evangelical(like catholic song is very classic one). Can I choose church coz of song? I cannot enjoy classic boring song. Traditional one make me. Sleepy

This post has been edited by leonhart88: Jan 13 2015, 07:11 PM
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post Jan 13 2015, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Jan 13 2015, 06:19 PM)
thanks
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They are cults. Deviated and form their own religion. They're not real Christianity.
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post Jan 13 2015, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 13 2015, 08:11 AM)
you can't

they exist as part of church growth. soon or later somebody will replace my teaching / UW teachings with better teachings... or, we adopt the new teachings and our color changes

earlier we build low-rise building.

then after apartment completes, we enjoy our increase / blessing.

but that's not enough.... GOD's want to build higher building... so what to do ? old apartment must be demolished, ground re-engingeered for higher rise building... then new construction come... the tower crane come...

imagine tower crane below...

of course "narrow minded civilian" will complain why invest in cranes... we want to build high rise building like below....

and teachers / does have excuse .... GOD's plan sometimes it's not according to our plan... biggrin.gif

-------------- before 2015 ------------

the low rise building are... traditional churches
the new rise building are .... pentecostal churches

the crane... it's the teaching / tool to help build

------------ after 2015 and beyond ------

now i see things coming...

the low rise building are... pentecostal churches
the new rise building are .... traditional churches that speaking in tongue... / pentecostal churches that become almost similar to traditional ones

---- your question about fake teachers ---
they exist cuz growth is multiple steps processes. at GOD's appointed time, the teachings will diminished. The crane has to be removed. But at another place, another crane with different technical specs exist to cater... advanced construction

imagine how GOD's work biggrin.gif
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I understand UW's teaching, but yours....hehehe.... no comment....

You know I'm from the construction industry...

For example, some low cost houses in Germany uses REXWALL, an energy saving composite material and cheap.

Benefits:-

water proof
maintain free
hurricane safe
stabile/flexible
own buoyancy
earthquake safe
long-term material
low energy isolation
no cracking fissuration
termite infestation free
fire safety - optional
bulletproof - optional
chemically harmless

Not only that, its endurance is over 50 years which are not found on other materials.

Now, we moved over to high rise buildings.

Did you know that high rise buildings frameworks can be built without crane and design floor modules can be fabricated in a factory in order to save time, costs and CO2 emissions?

For example, the Burj Khalifa. The slab formwork is entirely crane-independent and is moved by hand, the system is predestined for high-rise and large-area slab works where crane time is limited or not available.

Its 100% wood-free, all-plastic facing alkus too.

Ok, ok back to you. Why must the new rise building be Pentecostal? hmm.gif

The architect are the "teachers" that plan and design the building.

The crane is merely the tool used by the construction workers (us).
tinarhian
post Jan 13 2015, 11:04 PM

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We don't live in a perfect world, whereby both partners are virgins.

Just like what the Bible teach, salvation and forgiveness are given to us by grace.

Ephesians 2:8-9

8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.


2 Corinthians 5:17

17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.

Ephesians 2:1–5


2 And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience 3 among whom we all once lived in othe passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. 4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ by grace you have been saved.

A man who is seeking to be the man God wants him to be will be able to help his wife be the woman God desires her to be and, despite their pasts, they will be able to build their marriage into a God-honoring union that delights them both.



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post Jan 13 2015, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 13 2015, 06:18 PM)
Heard if not virgin girl then cannot be married at church? No forgiveness meh? Yes sex before married is prohibited but that cruel cannot marry at church?
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 13 2015, 06:22 PM)
Sometimes I feel discouraged to have gf who very committed to God. She will be always cares about other people and stress herself than care for me. Donate half her money to other ppl, church and her parents while asking me money. However, love is to make someone happy so I support her biggrin.gif
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What do any of your comments have anything to do with a girl who is on the verge of killing herself?
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post Jan 13 2015, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 13 2015, 11:41 PM)
What do any of your comments have anything to do with a girl who is on the verge of killing herself?
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nope just wanna ask 2 different questions lei, hope anyone can answer
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post Jan 13 2015, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 13 2015, 11:04 PM)
We don't live in a perfect world, whereby both partners are virgins.

Just like what the Bible teach, salvation and forgiveness are given to us by grace.

Ephesians 2:8-9

8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.


2 Corinthians 5:17

17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.

Ephesians 2:1–5


2 And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience 3 among whom we all once lived in othe passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. 4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ by grace you have been saved.

A man who is seeking to be the man God wants him to be will be able to help his wife be the woman God desires her to be and, despite their pasts, they will be able to build their marriage into a God-honoring union that delights them both.

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yes but cannot marry in church right coz church is holy?
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post Jan 13 2015, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 13 2015, 10:48 PM)
I understand UW's teaching, but yours....hehehe.... no comment....

You know I'm from the construction industry...

For example, some low cost houses in Germany uses REXWALL, an energy saving composite material and cheap.

Benefits:-

    water proof
    maintain free
    hurricane safe
    stabile/flexible
    own buoyancy
    earthquake safe
    long-term material
    low energy isolation
    no cracking fissuration
    termite infestation free
    fire safety - optional
    bulletproof - optional
    chemically harmless

Not only that, its endurance is over 50 years which are not found on other materials.

Now, we moved over to high rise buildings.

Did you know that high rise buildings frameworks can be built without crane and design floor modules can be fabricated in a factory in order to save time, costs and CO2 emissions?

For example, the Burj Khalifa. The slab formwork is entirely crane-independent and is moved by hand, the system is predestined for high-rise and large-area slab works where crane time is limited or not available.

Its 100% wood-free, all-plastic facing alkus too.

Ok, ok back to you. Why must the new rise building be Pentecostal?  hmm.gif

The architect are the "teachers" that plan and design the building.

The crane is merely the tool used by the construction workers (us).
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low cost = 50 years? must be more expensive than malaysian built pre clay right? I thought wood is cheaper?

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post Jan 14 2015, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 13 2015, 11:56 PM)
nope just wanna ask 2 different questions lei, hope anyone can answer
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Why not you stop with your all of your nonsense right now, and start being honest with where are you really going with all of these random questions.
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post Jan 14 2015, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 13 2015, 11:56 PM)
nope just wanna ask 2 different questions lei, hope anyone can answer
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Non Virgin can marry in church provided she has accepted the Lord Jesus Christ and (depending on Churches), they have to be member of that Church.
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post Jan 14 2015, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 13 2015, 11:04 PM)
We don't live in a perfect world, whereby both partners are virgins.

Just like what the Bible teach, salvation and forgiveness are given to us by grace.

Ephesians 2:8-9

8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.


2 Corinthians 5:17

17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.

Ephesians 2:1–5


2 And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience 3 among whom we all once lived in othe passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. 4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ by grace you have been saved.

A man who is seeking to be the man God wants him to be will be able to help his wife be the woman God desires her to be and, despite their pasts, they will be able to build their marriage into a God-honoring union that delights them both.

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That's why I'm in Love with God, he's the God of 2nd chances. flex.gif
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post Jan 14 2015, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 14 2015, 08:13 AM)
Non Virgin can marry in church provided she has accepted the Lord Jesus Christ and (depending on Churches), they have to be member of that Church.
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I'm sorry but, unless it's just me, I really think leonhart88 is merely trolling, instead of seeking actual answers to his questions. Several answers have been given to him to his previous questions, and I can't help to shake off the feeling that he was being apathetic towards the answers that were given to him.
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post Jan 14 2015, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 14 2015, 09:12 AM)
I'm sorry but, unless it's just me, I really think leonhart88 is merely trolling, instead of seeking actual answers to his questions. Several answers have been given to him to his previous questions, and I can't help to shake off the feeling that he was being apathetic towards the answers that were given to him.
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Have a feeling it's because of his GF, that got him started, (his curiosity) about Christianity.

I think he has not really pursue seriously enough to accept the answers. Got the feeling He's also unsure ...... hmm.gif
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post Jan 14 2015, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 14 2015, 09:20 AM)
Have a feeling it's because of his GF, that got him started, (his curiosity) about Christianity.

I think he has not really pursue seriously enough to accept the answers. Got the feeling He's also unsure ...... hmm.gif
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Unsure? More like uninterested.
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post Jan 14 2015, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 13 2015, 10:48 PM)

Ok, ok back to you. Why must the new rise building be Pentecostal?  hmm.gif

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it's an allegory.

new technology always improves from older one.

The allegory is: Pentecostal is new technology. Traditional churches is traditional.

-- new rise building ? --

new rise building requires more advanced technology compared to single story building for example. Just lay-man example ok biggrin.gif....


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post Jan 14 2015, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jan 13 2015, 06:57 PM)
Jesus' standard memang very high wan I'm surprised you dunno.  doh.gif
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huh... it's you that say very high...

my job is not to quality Jesus standard, like what you did... my JOB is to share GOD's love.

put that high-standard-thing away, it's only makes your life difficult right ? i am not surprised whistling.gif
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