Mhi better than ME?

Are u joking? In my place mhi is cheaper than daikin, pana and ME liao.

after all the reading the best bet is getting r32 type aircond?
i did ask some sales staff they don't really encourage to get those r410 inverter cos maintenance and repairing cost is much higher than non-inverter.
other than Daikin how about others, other than China brand recommended such as Sharp?

I mentioned in [edit: another] thread before. R32 supply and distribution needs some rethink on safety before it is widely used here. See here

Goodness....refilling or filling might be a nightmare. I imagine it could easily burst the AC pipes unless proper rigging and precautions are used.

wow...this thread is really technical....
anyways, just a simple question - when (or does it even need to ) do you guys service or refill the aircond gas ?

well I got some facts need to be considered:

1. R32 is the coldest. 90% of japanese use R32 aircon
2. It's funny people look aircon based on brand alone. To make your aircon last long you need to consider your installer too. You need to vacuum the aircon before pre installed for 20-30 mins otherwise it's too late.

cooling index R32 is 160 while R410 only 92

it saves electricity liao. like kimsim uses R410A 2HP in a 10*10 room.

Japanese use top loader because they take a bath once a day or no sweat so no need front loader?

For me if you want to save electricity then choose R32 rather than inverter thingy
Logic failed. FL is more space savings since I can put under the kitchen top. FL also can use quick wash mode.

Perhaps the only sensible thing is to hold off R32 purchase until cooling only models arrives which may bring down the price. Current models seems to be cooling and heating. Don't think an average consumer is willing to fork out 3-4x equivalent.

I wouldn't buy R32 right now. Its uncommon which means not many people have the gas or even trained to handle it. Should anything happen you sure pay to the roof.

Like how R22 is still cheaper than R410A in Malaysia right now.

http://www.daikin.co.uk/binaries/3340_Intr...m511-342471.pdf

According to Daikin
Daikin says their R32 is 6% more efficient in a 4kW system compared to R410A. What do I deduce from that? The efficiency gains is miniscule and only observed in larger power draws. For small home use, 1HP air cond is below 1kW lah. So the power efficiency difference is drawing straws.

R410A won't be banned anytime soon. Use will only be restricted by year 2030 in the EU.

Who got air con using R32 here?

Ic,means dat if i use 20 celcius on r22,den maybe i onli nid to use 23 celcius or higher on r410a?
Icic,so maybe i will be settliing down on a r410a unit den,jz scare alot problem or cons,is there ani?

wow...how can 23 degree be same as 20 degree?
this thread is really 'informative'

So far i've gotten 2 quotations RM1040 and RM1100 inclusive of installation

On the other hand 1 of the contractors whom went for site visit said he will charge extra to conceal the piping. Is this common? Or should it be inclusive in the installation already?

Anione can confirn with me d daikin GA R410a is 3 star rating for d power consumption thing?
As dis reali make me surprise as ME onli 2 stars for ME mr. Slim basic series...
Btw,noise wise is more or less d same with my 8 year-old panasonic air-cond,i mean medium vs medium...
If max fan is a bit noisy,but currently i am jz using 25 celcius on low for sleeping,reali damn cold...

You too old already... Like buy a car and the specs has meantion lower hosepower and the weight x 2 than engine capacity then you still buy?

End out like what? Petrol drinker lah bro.

dont understand also why some ppl keep saying R410a is super power god refrigerant when the EER is almost exactly the same with R-22.
improvement maybe just by tiny bit.
inverter will give you better EER rather than just changing refrigerant.

Did you swap cars and test? It could be driving pattern.
Just like how the same air conditioner, in the same size room, can have very different power consumption based on usage pattern.

I think to summarize between R22 and R410A, very easy.. if you want cheap air con, seldom use, R22 lah. I also use R22 in my other home, I'm only there once every other month. No reason to get R410A or inverter there.

If you're moving into a new home, makes more sense for R410A as you need to lay out the copper pipes, especially true for concealed pipes, as R22 is being phased out.

Ha ha you won't knew R22 after usage a few years later on the gas itself would turn into darker or more sticky without runing smoothly, unlike when new.

That is why old compressor works harder can hear vibration and higher noise level as well

i never believe non-inverter air con will be silent than inverter...thats bull shit as well... my neighbor staying opposite me is using non inverter... the noise level is unbearable ..luckily my overpriced flat unit is not directly facing the blackies....
imagine i can listen to the compressor sound if i stay at living hall ....my flat very small unit only...less than 1400sf ,...