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post Aug 30 2017, 01:40 PM

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Just want to know if all new high rise condo using building roof top water tank. old one yes can easily seen but seem like new one don't use big tank anymore...is it now most using pumps + small tank?
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May I ask is there necessary for Main Contractor to purchase Package 1 Insurance for all subcontractor? Thank you
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Typically it is CAR (Contractor's All Risk) insurance which is a comprehensive coverage for all personnel. If you are contractor and is buying, ask the insurance agent, and also refer to PAM Contract 2006.

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who is the person who decide what kind of flooring materials to procure in a condo project ?
developer ?
main con ?
architect ?
purchaser ?
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For most projects, the floor finishes (and other finishes) is minimum to comply to statutory requirements, as per approved Building Plan. This allows the developer to commit the minimum. If it is an upgrade, usually the buyer will not dispute that it is not in accordance to S&P Agreement (Remember S&P Agreement ties to the approved Building Plan, so in your S&P it is always the minimum, like homogeneous tiles, plaster & paint and so on). This is also to allow for purchaser to renovate, you don't want to pay a hefty amount to buy a condo unit with slate tiles on it only to hack it later to change to marble to suit your preferences.

So, it goes like
1. Architect specify (example of the specification is like "600 x 600 x 12mm THK NXRO GRANITE 'YXRA' HOMOGENEOUS TILES MATTE OR EQUIVALENT TO ARCHITECT'S APPROVAL")
2. ding dong ding dong
3. Client approves (by signing on the Building Plan submission)
4. Submission approved
5. Tender - once tender is awarded, the cost is fixed, unless client want to change, then there will be VO.
6. Contractor counter propose (showing sample, all certificates including CIDB, SIRIM, BOMBA, ISO, etc etc) - this is where the contractor makes money from price difference. - That's why the last part 'or equivalent to architect's approval' in the architect's specification
7. Architect & client approves or reject (ding dong ding dong) - Ultimately Architect is the one who signs and confirm, with client's consent

Unless you are a special purchaser, like you committed to buy a penthouse unit which is special designed to your preference, this usually the purchaser do not involved in a project's design and construction. Because you only buy the product.

QUOTE(266K @ Aug 30 2017, 01:40 PM)
Just want to know if all new high rise condo using building roof top water tank. old one yes can easily seen but seem like new one don't use big tank anymore...is it now most using pumps + small tank?
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They simply hide it. Or put it in the top level and cover up nicely, locked to other people access. Usually 3-tier tanks. Pump is to draw water up to the storage tank. Usually every 70m height (about 20 storeys) need to have a stage pump+tank because not enough power to push higher.

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post Sep 4 2017, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(henrytlh @ Aug 5 2017, 09:25 PM)
Yes, my current firm's accountant graduated in accounts, work in an electrical firm, doing Autocad and submission, then proceeded into Civil consulting firm while doing part time ACCA. Now she's working as an individual accountant, doing checking of drawing before submission, tax audit, while pursuing her CPA. Nothing is impossible if you have the drive to learn smile.gif

P/s she's a girl so it makes it even more amusing
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Interesting, but since she is not the submitting person (as in the person who put signature and stamp on drawing for submission) she has no liability. If she misses things but the submitting person (usually boss who has the Ir.) didn't check by him/herself and submit, and eventually it fucks up big time, it is the submitting person's responsibility. She can just shrug and move on to other places doing something out of her expertise.

From your description she came from an accounting background, and no matter in what firms, she is still doing her accounting stuffs...I would be amazed if she changed from accounting to obtaining a civil engineering degree, and pursue her PE (Ir. from BEM)
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post Sep 5 2017, 02:50 PM

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Hello, I don't know if you can help my query on re-roofing.

I'm seeing some houses when re-roofing is done, they will either put zinc or aluminium underneath the wood frame before placing the roof tiles. What is the difference between these 2 other than zinc being thicker.

Will it reduce the heat into the house?
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post Sep 6 2017, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(2387581 @ Sep 4 2017, 02:45 PM)
Interesting, but since she is not the submitting person (as in the person who put signature and stamp on drawing for submission) she has no liability. If she misses things but the submitting person (usually boss who has the Ir.) didn't check by him/herself and submit, and eventually it fucks up big time, it is the submitting person's responsibility. She can just shrug and move on to other places doing something out of her expertise.

From your description she came from an accounting background, and no matter in what firms, she is still doing her accounting stuffs...I would be amazed if she changed from accounting to obtaining a civil engineering degree, and pursue her PE (Ir. from BEM)
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Actually the original question was more general: "have you meet people who work in construction that has completely different background previously? (eg: finance, science, business etc?) and start completely from 0 knowledge?"

It was not specifically about someone becoming a PE or Ir, just about someone working in construction field.
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post Sep 9 2017, 08:06 AM

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On construction stands point, what is the most expensive part of the house to build?

1. Foundation + floor
2. Wall
3. Roof
4. Toilets
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post Sep 16 2017, 10:40 PM

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Hi everybody. I have quite a number of questions here, and it'd be really great if anyone with relevant experience could share their insight or two.

My situation is, my family have a piece of land, under three separate titles. We are divided whether to sell, or to invest in the land.

The land is under agricultural category, 10 acres. I am trying to convince my family to build a shoplot at the front of the land due to its location, which is beside a busy main road.

I try to arrange the questions as orderly as I could.

1) To proceed to construction, do I have to amalgamate the three titles into one?

2) To proceed to construction, do I have to change the category of the land? If yes, to what category and how much would it cost approximately?

3) Is it better (financially especially) for me to appoint construction company to build, or better if I start my own company and start from there?

4) To start a construction company, how long would it take before licensing and everything related?

That's all for now, more will come after all these questions are answered. The project is not in near future though, so no rush there.

Thanks for reading through. smile.gif


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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ Sep 9 2017, 08:06 AM)
On construction stands point, what is the most expensive part of the house to build?

1. Foundation + floor
2. Wall
3. Roof
4. Toilets
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It depends on what kind of building.
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post Oct 4 2017, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Oct 17 2014, 01:30 PM)
hey guys, u may ask me anything about construction industry and i'll try my best to answer all ur question.
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Construction Industry is so complex and actually affect various party namely,

House buyer / Purchaser
Developer
Consultant (Architect, Engineer and etc)
Main Contractor
Subcontractor / Vendor / Supplier
Local Authority (DBKL, BOMBA, SYABAS, TNB, TELEKOM, POS, JKKP, IWK and etc.)

u can also ask me about construction law. I know a lot abt that too biggrin.gif
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hi

how much does it costs to apply for construction permit?

where can i find the data and statistics of building permits issued by government?
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post Oct 9 2017, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(Necrosis @ Sep 16 2017, 10:40 PM)
Hi everybody. I have quite a number of questions here, and it'd be really great if anyone with relevant experience could share their insight or two.

My situation is, my family have a piece of land, under three separate titles. We are divided whether to sell, or to invest in the land.

The land is under agricultural category, 10 acres. I am trying to convince my family to build a shoplot at the front of the land due to its location, which is beside a busy main road.

I try to arrange the questions as orderly as I could.

1) To proceed to construction, do I have to amalgamate the three titles into one?
Need to amalgamate or 'surrender and realienation' - refer to National Land Code with the assistance of your town planner consultant. If separate title it means they have separate setbacks, and they need separate access. You will lose a lot of real estate for perimeter planting, access road and building setbacks. Depending on where your land is, the size of land needed to surrender is different. For example, if existing 'main road' is a single carriageway, it is likely you need to surrender portion 33ft measuring from centre of road, then additional 10ft for drain reserve, and another 40ft for service road...this is only an example. Every case different so you will need to show to your consultant team the survey plan, and the consultants will check and advise accordingly.

2) To proceed to construction, do I have to change the category of the land? If yes, to what category and how much would it cost approximately?
Yes you will need to change the category. If you opt for 'surrender and realienation' then you can do the variation of category together when you apply with land office. For shoplot, the category of land use should be changed to 'building'. The town planner consultant will help you with that, as I am not town planner, I do not know the fees and land premium you will need to pay. Usually it will take 3 months to 1 year for land maters.

3) Is it better (financially especially) for me to appoint construction company to build, or better if I start my own company and start from there?
Because you are the owner, it means you will need to setup a company entity, register for a developer's license, which you will need for applying for any advertising permit for selling your units. Typically the owner (client) will appoint a team of consultants primarily consisting of architect, C+S engineer, M+E engineer, QS and town planner, further supported by landscape architect, and other specialist consultant if and when you need, for example geo-technical engineer, environmental impact assessment, traffic impact assessment, lighting designer, etc etc. After building plan approval, architect and engineers will prepare tender drawings for QS to measure. Then will invite a few contractors for a competitive tender for the project to be built.

But if you want to start a construction company to build, in addition to the company mentioned above, you will need to set up another company. Think of 'Sxnway' and 'Sxnway Construction' as separate companies. If it is a one-off project, you are not going to have subsequent projects as a developer, usually I will advise against my client to set up a construction company. Too high capital, and you also need to obtain contractor licenses eg. CIDB. You also need to know and/or hire people for technical know-how on construction, legal and contracts, architectural/engineering supervisors/inspector of works, QS, project managers, document control, etc. If you really want to, it will be easier to buy off an established construction company. Don't just think about financially, also think about expertise and liability. When you award the contract to a contractor, it means the liability towards the construction is upon the contractor. If you are not very experienced in dealing as a contractor, you will easily get yourself stuck in deep shit. Most contractors starts off as small timer, then gradually grow to become main contractor to take up the whole building contract.


4) To start a construction company, how long would it take before licensing and everything related?
Not sure. You may refer to your lawyer. Because if you intend to become a developer, you will frequently deal with your lawyer regarding all the conveyancing (SPA) and company matters.

That's all for now, more will come after all these questions are answered. The project is not in near future though, so no rush there.

Thanks for reading through. smile.gif
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From an architect's perspective.

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hi

how much does it costs to apply for construction permit?

where can i find the data and statistics of building permits issued by government?
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For data and statistics best you consult the local authorities/majlis respectively. What is your purpose with that info?

The costs to apply for building plan approval varies, what type of development you are doing? For building plan it is based on floor area involved for new construction and renovation. Additional deposits and payments applicable for
- demolition
- construction waste disposal (PPSPPA)
- compound (fine for built before building plan approval, usually 10x the normal fee)

Other fees related to statutory requirement involve fees for application on land matters, planning approval, engineering plan submission fees (road and drainage, structural), contribution to build traffic light, upgrade existing sewerage treatment plant, TNB, SYABAS, SPAN etc etc.
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Hi, i have a question.
What does mechanical engineer do in a developer / consultant / contractor company? whats the difference across these three in the context of construction sector? Thanks!
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QUOTE(NoNameForMe @ Oct 9 2017, 04:19 PM)
Hi, i have a question.
What does mechanical engineer do in a developer / consultant / contractor company? whats the difference across these three in the context of construction sector? Thanks!
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consultant - design, submission, on-site coordination, supervise, endorsement, issue instructions
developer - review and confirm design
contractor - on-site coordination, testing, rectification
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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Oct 17 2014, 01:30 PM)
hey guys, u may ask me anything about construction industry and i'll try my best to answer all ur question.
biggrin.gif

Construction Industry is so complex and actually affect various party namely,

House buyer / Purchaser
Developer
Consultant (Architect, Engineer and etc)
Main Contractor
Subcontractor / Vendor / Supplier
Local Authority (DBKL, BOMBA, SYABAS, TNB, TELEKOM, POS, JKKP, IWK and etc.)

u can also ask me about construction law. I know a lot abt that too biggrin.gif
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I want to know if a medium size sub contractor company (can undertake a project around 26 mil) wants to grow up and become a main contractor company (can undertake a project around 150 mil), this sub contractor require how many years to do that?? please reply me asap bcz i have a lot more to ask and thx very much!

PS IM ALSO VERY NEW TO THIS INDUSTRY!!! tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Oct 17 2014, 01:30 PM)
hey guys, u may ask me anything about construction industry and i'll try my best to answer all ur question.
biggrin.gif

Construction Industry is so complex and actually affect various party namely,

House buyer / Purchaser
Developer
Consultant (Architect, Engineer and etc)
Main Contractor
Subcontractor / Vendor / Supplier
Local Authority (DBKL, BOMBA, SYABAS, TNB, TELEKOM, POS, JKKP, IWK and etc.)

u can also ask me about construction law. I know a lot abt that too biggrin.gif
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Is there a lists of Tier 1 Main Contractors ..
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post Oct 24 2017, 01:06 PM

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Is there a lists of Tier 1 Main Contractors ..
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G1 to G7 according to cidb contractor list. think this 1 u can buy the list from CIDB. anyway those G7 contractor might not be top notch. coz most company can achieve that easily
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I'm planning to built my own house, some said before built anything better call pest control to treat the land 1st, usually gov building did this, any idea what it is? is it necessary for normal house? cox don't want to end up like my current house so many holes at the tiles.


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QUOTE(entire @ Nov 9 2017, 01:43 PM)
I'm planning to built my own house, some said before built anything better call pest control to treat the land 1st, usually gov building did this, any idea what it is? is it necessary for normal house? cox don't want to end up like my current house so many holes at the tiles.
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This normally refers to anti-termite treatment. You spray it just before casting the ground floor slab.

Normally advisable to do it if your land is vulnerable to termites (e.g. ex plantation land).
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QUOTE(jchong @ Nov 9 2017, 06:30 PM)
This normally refers to anti-termite treatment. You spray it just before casting the ground floor slab.

Normally advisable to do it if your land is vulnerable to termites (e.g. ex plantation land).
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any pest control can do it? I heard must have license, any idea the cost for 5000sqft?
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Find a licensed pest control company and get a quote from them.

Check what chemical they are using, there are 2 main ones used in the market - chlorpyrifos or imidacloprid.

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