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HuiChyr
post Nov 3 2014, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(arza04 @ Nov 3 2014, 11:43 AM)
Did you replace the pcv valve?  How much normally it cost to replace it
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I haven't change PCV. But ask spare part shop RM25.
Labour ... if can do yourself should be good.
I saw in video for other car, PCV is easy replace by yourself.
But need to know WHERE is the PCV for Wira ... doh.gif
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post Nov 3 2014, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(HuiChyr @ Nov 3 2014, 12:21 PM)
I haven't change PCV. But ask spare part shop RM25.
Labour ... if can do yourself should be good.
I saw in video for other car, PCV is easy replace by yourself.
But need to know WHERE is the PCV for Wira ... doh.gif
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on the top right corner of the valve cover there is a vacuum hose connecting to inlet manifold. That is the PCV valve. Just use size 12 wrench to remove it and replace will do. Just apply tiny bit of engine oil on the thread for easier installation.

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post Nov 3 2014, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(GKWong @ Nov 3 2014, 03:45 PM)
on the top right corner of the valve cover there is a vacuum hose connecting to inlet manifold. That is the PCV valve. Just use size 12 wrench to remove it and replace will do. Just apply tiny bit of engine oil on the thread for easier installation.
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QUOTE(arza04 @ Nov 3 2014, 11:43 AM)
Did you replace the pcv valve?  How much normally it cost to replace it
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Thank you GKWOng, your advise is appreciated notworthy.gif
Also, asked to spare part shop fella to point to me blush.gif
Bought it for Rm20 ...
Everything as per the attached photo.
Will install as instructed by bro GKWong biggrin.gif



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post Nov 3 2014, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(GKWong @ Nov 3 2014, 03:45 PM)
on the top right corner of the valve cover there is a vacuum hose connecting to inlet manifold. That is the PCV valve. Just use size 12 wrench to remove it and replace will do. Just apply tiny bit of engine oil on the thread for easier installation.
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Thanks man notworthy.gif
btw the hose size how many mm?

QUOTE(HuiChyr @ Nov 3 2014, 06:47 PM)
Thank you GKWOng, your advise is appreciated  notworthy.gif
Also, asked to spare part shop fella to point to me  blush.gif
Bought it for Rm20 ...
Everything as per the attached photo.
Will install as instructed by bro GKWong  biggrin.gif
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Not bad the price, i will diy tmr. thumbup.gif
Got feel any difference?

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HuiChyr
post Nov 3 2014, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(arza04 @ Nov 3 2014, 06:55 PM)
Thanks man  notworthy.gif
btw the hose size how many mm?
Not bad the price, i will diy tmr.  thumbup.gif
Got feel any difference?
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Have not change yet. Will do it tomorrow after work.
I will use back the old hose.
I don't think will have any feel. Just that engine won't makan minyak.
So can use back Semi-syn for next service. thumbup.gif

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post Nov 3 2014, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(arza04 @ Nov 3 2014, 06:55 PM)
Thanks man  notworthy.gif
btw the hose size how many mm?
Not bad the price, i will diy tmr.  thumbup.gif
Got feel any difference?
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Hose inner diameter is 8mm. But if the hose still nice and no crack then no need replace is okay.
Diff after replacing the valve depend on the condition of your existing PCV valve itself. If it is totally blocked then your engine gasket might leaking out a bit due to excessive pressure built up inside. And also vapour inside will degrades engine oil faster. If the PCV valve is allowing too much air moving into manifold at idle then u might encounter engine knocking or oxygen sensor detected system is too lean then it will try to compensate by injecting more fuel hence increases in fuel consumption. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 3 2014, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(GKWong @ Nov 3 2014, 07:27 PM)
Hose inner diameter is 8mm. But if the hose still nice and no crack then no need replace is okay.
Diff after replacing the valve depend on the condition of your existing PCV valve itself. If it is totally blocked then your engine gasket might leaking out a bit due to excessive pressure built up inside. And also vapour inside will degrades engine oil faster. If the PCV valve is allowing too much air moving into manifold at idle then u might encounter engine knocking or oxygen sensor detected system is too lean then it will try to compensate by injecting more fuel hence increases in fuel consumption. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thanks bro, u help a lot
I notice my engine got oil stain, maybe pcv valve kong already. Does this pcv has anything to this case, when idle, I rev the car, let go the gas pedal, the rpm drop below idle rpm to 600rpm+- then rise back up to 900rpm shortly
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Nov 3 2014, 07:27 PM)
Hose inner diameter is 8mm. But if the hose still nice and no crack then no need replace is okay.
Diff after replacing the valve depend on the condition of your existing PCV valve itself. If it is totally blocked then your engine gasket might leaking out a bit due to excessive pressure built up inside. And also vapour inside will degrades engine oil faster. If the PCV valve is allowing too much air moving into manifold at idle then u might encounter engine knocking or oxygen sensor detected system is too lean then it will try to compensate by injecting more fuel hence increases in fuel consumption. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Wow .. that would be great . Good that you advise the physics of the valve.
Very helpful information there. THank you. notworthy.gif
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post Nov 3 2014, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(arza04 @ Nov 3 2014, 07:32 PM)
Thanks bro, u help a lot
I notice my engine got oil stain, maybe pcv valve kong already. Does this pcv has anything to this case, when idle, I rev the car, let go the gas pedal, the rpm drop below idle rpm to 600rpm+- then rise back up to 900rpm shortly
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not a symptom from PCV valve though... seems more like the issue with throttle body. Your car is MMC or VDO? Mostly MMC got this issue as I seen before from my friends ride. Maybe throttle body dirty or the idle screw need some adjustment hmm.gif Not so sure...
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Nov 3 2014, 09:00 PM)
not a symptom from PCV valve though... seems more like the issue with throttle body. Your car is MMC or VDO? Mostly MMC got this issue as I seen before from my friends ride. Maybe throttle body dirty or the idle screw need some adjustment  hmm.gif  Not so sure...
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Vdo sweat.gif
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post Nov 3 2014, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(arza04 @ Nov 3 2014, 09:16 PM)
Vdo  sweat.gif
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Our VDO throttle body doesn't have idle air intake jet adjustment like MMC. When the pedal is depress, the throttle butterfly is just actually stuck open around 5% to just let slip thru the upper and lower part of the throttle body. So if it is dirty and causing obstructed airflow then it can cause RPM drop after depressing the pedal. But the ECU will quickly correct back the idle RPM by controlling the throttle body servo motor.
If your throttle body is already cleaned then I also not sure what might be causing it... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Nov 3 2014, 09:28 PM)
Our VDO throttle body doesn't have idle air intake jet adjustment like MMC. When the pedal is depress, the throttle butterfly is just actually stuck open around 5% to just let slip thru the upper and lower part of the throttle body. So if it is dirty and causing obstructed airflow then it can cause RPM drop after depressing the pedal. But the ECU will quickly correct back the idle RPM by controlling the throttle body servo motor.
If your throttle body is already cleaned then I also not sure what might be causing it...  rclxub.gif
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Yeap, my mech also dont know why and he suggest me change tb. Since it never bother much, i will just continue use it
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QUOTE(HuiChyr @ Oct 24 2014, 02:27 AM)
Btw .. this happened to me today  blush.gif
Engine overheat problem
Radiator sumbat > Overheat. Finally found the cause of temp rise.
Instead, clean the radiator and crimping the top cover back => Rm85
Was given the choice of new radiator Rm250 (but from China) and Recond radiator Rm230...
With these option, I might as well clean and use back my own. At least I know it's original.
Now my engine is good as new ... laugh.gif  well almost.

Another happy news; at the drop of first bar from fuel gauge produce 156km... happy to know I can hit my usual fc of 450 - 500km for full tank.
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as for my car..1.5 auto 3 speeder..managed to get around 430km with 30liters of petrol..i think ok kot..btw plan to install throttle controller..pedal feel heavy la..already cleaned up the tb..
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QUOTE(mensa @ Nov 5 2014, 02:53 PM)
as for my car..1.5 auto 3 speeder..managed to get around 430km with 30liters of petrol..i think ok kot..btw plan to install throttle controller..pedal feel heavy la..already cleaned up the tb..
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Throttle Controller??? blink.gif
Wira is using mechanical throttle with cable. Not the new electronic throttle. What kind of throttle controller do you mean? Mind to enlighten us? smile.gif
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Nov 5 2014, 03:16 PM)
Throttle Controller???  blink.gif
Wira is using mechanical throttle with cable. Not the new electronic throttle. What kind of throttle controller do you mean? Mind to enlighten us?  smile.gif
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owh ya..forgot that wira using cable sweat.gif
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post Nov 5 2014, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(mensa @ Nov 5 2014, 03:25 PM)
owh ya..forgot that wira using cable  sweat.gif
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doh.gif I thought got what new product that can upgrade for us... hahaha
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post Nov 5 2014, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(mensa @ Nov 5 2014, 02:53 PM)
as for my car..1.5 auto 3 speeder..managed to get around 430km with 30liters of petrol..i think ok kot..btw plan to install throttle controller..pedal feel heavy la..already cleaned up the tb..
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For auto, you can get 430km is pretty good.

Anyway, change my PCV valve. During idling, my car maintain at 1000rpm. So that one good sign.
Next to factors I'm hoping for ... FC consumption improve and no makan minyak in engine. rclxms.gif

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post Nov 5 2014, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(HuiChyr @ Nov 5 2014, 03:56 PM)
For auto, you can get 430km is pretty good.

Anyway, change my PCV valve. During idling, my car maintain at 1000rpm. So that one good sign.
Next to factors I'm hoping for ... FC consumption improve and no makan minyak in engine.  rclxms.gif
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may i know what happen to your pcv valve?
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post Nov 5 2014, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(mensa @ Nov 5 2014, 04:47 PM)
may i know what happen to your pcv valve?
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I don't what happen to the old one. But it is 15yrs old so might as well change it.
I noticed my engine makan minyak and FC getting worse.
Suspect the PCV need to change especially the makan minyak part.

Pls scroll back to see the function of pcv as mention by GKwong
or go here for detail explanation
http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/h63.pdf

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post Nov 5 2014, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(mensa @ Nov 5 2014, 02:53 PM)
as for my car..1.5 auto 3 speeder..managed to get around 430km with 30liters of petrol..i think ok kot..btw plan to install throttle controller..pedal feel heavy la..already cleaned up the tb..
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Damn that fuel consumption is so good!! Got any mod?
Mine 30 litre 350km only sweat.gif stock from factory

QUOTE(HuiChyr @ Nov 5 2014, 03:56 PM)
For auto, you can get 430km is pretty good.

Anyway, change my PCV valve. During idling, my car maintain at 1000rpm. So that one good sign.
Next to factors I'm hoping for ... FC consumption improve and no makan minyak in engine.  rclxms.gif
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Thats good news! Good for you rclxms.gif

What kind of cleaner can we use to clean throttle body? They sell at sparepart shop or hardware shop?


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