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limeuu
post Sep 19 2007, 11:48 AM

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that is what i and a few other here, have been trying to caution prospective students about trying to rank unis.............the actual rank depends on the set of criteria used in the calculations...........if a different set of criteria is used, ranking then becomes different..........

you do not necessary get a "worse" quality of education.........it depends on the course, some of them may be better in adelaide than melbourne..........

the difference in the "quality" is minimal, that is my point in my earlier post, about how a well managed education system will minimise the difference between schools, and unis.........so while adelaide may be ranked lower, you will still receive a good quality all round

in the job market, there is minimal impact, where you graduate from, in the oz workforce, they are not so snobbish as regards this, unlike asians.........may make a slight difference getting an interview, or a job, but after that, it is purely your work performance that will determine you further job prospects...........don't believe me, go ask people who have graduated and working for a few years there............

i will not make decisions purely based on the perceived "quality" or quoted rankings, other factors like cost, friends/relatives, weather, accessibility (flight frequency etc), and maybe a place to settle later............
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post Sep 19 2007, 11:54 AM

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i just wanan ask I'm going to RIMT study advertising next year, i'm still searching for study loan around RM 40 K, any idea which bank has lower interest? thankx
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post Sep 19 2007, 12:18 PM

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actually, the lowest interests rates are found in house loans, so the better way is for you parents to either remorgage the house, or further drawdown the housing loan...........any other type of loans always attract a higher interest..........

highlights the fact that most people have problem with their finances........which some more fortunate people seems not to understand.........
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post Sep 19 2007, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 19 2007, 12:18 PM)
actually, the lowest interests rates are found in house loans, so the better way is for you parents to either remorgage the house, or further drawdown the housing loan...........any other type of loans always attract a higher interest..........

highlights the fact that most people have problem with their finances........which some more fortunate people seems not to understand.........
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the prob is 4 years ago my mom did remortage the hosue for my sis to study in Australia, and my parents starting clearing their debts for bank, and i do not want them to worry so much and thats why i would like to ask for study loan. smile.gif

my course is around RM 40 K maximum, my sister is in Melb already and she's been working for eyars now, I can work part time to support myself for other expenses except the roof for shelter from my sis. tongue.gif

May i ask agian what about the PTPTN loan? will it applicable for RMIT?
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post Sep 19 2007, 12:57 PM

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it doesn't matter whether its housing loan or study loan, you still owe money to the bank and need to pay interest.........

ptptn loans i think only for local unis, ipta or ipts, not for overseas.......
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post Sep 19 2007, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Sep 19 2007, 11:20 AM)
So,i should expect Adelaide Uni's education quality is worse than Unis like Melbourne Uni and UNSW.
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Depending on what you intend to do. I wouldn't recommend Adelaide for business or technology-related studies because they would have weaker industry and research links in those areas. The unis in major cities have stronger advantage in these areas because the biggest corporations are located in Sydney and Melbourne (to a certain extent Canberra), so naturally, they gain greater access to the resources available.


Added on September 19, 2007, 5:28 pm
QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 19 2007, 11:48 AM)
in the job market, there is minimal impact, where you graduate from, in the oz workforce, they are not so snobbish as regards this, unlike asians.........may make a slight difference getting an interview, or a job, but after that, it is purely your work performance that will determine you further job prospects...........don't believe me, go ask people who have graduated and working for a few years there............
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There is minimal impact in the job market and this is a first-hand experience. Employers here value degrees more than the university that you graduate from. The only time they "prefer" students from a certain university is when they have a strong relationship with the university, i.e. sponsors research work and scholarships, etc.

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post Sep 19 2007, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(chris_c28 @ Sep 19 2007, 05:24 PM)
Depending on what you intend to do. I wouldn't recommend Adelaide for business or technology-related studies because they would have weaker industry and research links in those areas. The unis in major cities have stronger advantage in these areas because the biggest corporations are located in Sydney and Melbourne (to a certain extent Canberra), so naturally, they gain greater access to the resources available.
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It seems like Adelaide is not really suitable for engineering.
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post Sep 19 2007, 06:16 PM

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i heard adelaide good for biotech hmm.gif
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post Sep 19 2007, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Sep 19 2007, 06:16 PM)
i heard adelaide good for biotech  hmm.gif
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Huh? blink.gif

Dunno lah,i just go there loh.It's not like the uni is having some sort of major problem.
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post Sep 19 2007, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Sep 19 2007, 07:53 PM)
Huh? blink.gif

Dunno lah,i just go there loh.It's not like the uni is having some sort of major problem.
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yea boss..tats wat i haerd la..pls clarify hehe...
well i dont know wat the good adelaide good for..
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post Sep 19 2007, 07:23 PM

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heard adelaide is quite a nice place ^^
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post Sep 19 2007, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Sep 19 2007, 07:23 PM)
heard adelaide is quite a nice place ^^
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Yeah,heard it's a good place to study.Less distraction than Melbourne and Sydney.
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post Sep 19 2007, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(chris_c28 @ Sep 19 2007, 06:54 PM)
Depending on what you intend to do. I wouldn't recommend Adelaide for business or technology-related studies because they would have weaker industry and research links in those areas. The unis in major cities have stronger advantage in these areas because the biggest corporations are located in Sydney and Melbourne (to a certain extent Canberra), so naturally, they gain greater access to the resources available.
Adelaide does have links with many defense company. SA is the defense state of Australia and there are many big defense companies based in SA such as Tenix, BAE Systems, ASC, and many more. It also has strong links with the Defense Science and Technology Organisation (DSTO). Adelaide's research has contributed alot to the advancement in defense technology, and every now and then Adelaide gets a large sum of financial allocation from the DoD for its research.

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post Sep 19 2007, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(nerd nation @ Sep 19 2007, 09:35 PM)
Adelaide does have links with many defense company. SA is the defense state of Australia and there are many big defense companies based in SA such as Tenix, BAE Systems, ASC, and many more. It also has strong links with the Defense Science and Technology Organisation (DSTO). Adelaide's research has contributed alot to the advancement in defense technology, and every now and then Adelaide gets a large sum of financial allocation from the DoD for its research.
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wow..cool! like tat i shud join adelaide uni hahaha..can involve in defense technology ... rclxm9.gif
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post Sep 19 2007, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Sep 19 2007, 11:09 PM)
wow..cool! like tat i shud join adelaide uni hahaha..can involve in defense technology ... rclxm9.gif
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one of the requirements of working with defense technology is having enough security clearances, ie having an australian citizenship. dont know about the companies in SA but i did ask Boeing about working with them, they said australian citizenship is a must for almost every job related to their defence contracts
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post Sep 19 2007, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(nerd nation @ Sep 19 2007, 08:35 PM)
Adelaide does have links with many defense company. SA is the defense state of Australia and there are many big defense companies based in SA such as Tenix, BAE Systems, ASC, and many more. It also has strong links with the Defense Science and Technology Organisation (DSTO). Adelaide's research has contributed alot to the advancement in defense technology, and every now and then Adelaide gets a large sum of financial allocation from the DoD for its research.
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Cool,i dont mind working for a defense company. rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif

So,Adelaide is not some not so developed state.Seems like a decent place to go.

Then,whats the reason that almost everyone just go to Melbourne and Sydney's uni?It seems like no one goes to places like Perth and Adelaide.

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post Sep 19 2007, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Sep 19 2007, 11:11 PM)
Cool,i dont mind working for a defense company. rclxms.gif  rclxm9.gif

So,Adelaide is not some not so developed state.Seems like a decent place to go.

Then,whats the reason that almost everyone just go to Melbourne and Sydney's uni?It seems like no one goes to places like Perth and Adelaide.
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coz it is very boring in adelaide, perth and brisbane
melbourne and sydney is like singapore and kl for SEA
and alot HK, all sort of people here..
besides..it is cooler to be here lol!
the weather..can go ski during winter, summer see bush fires . lolx.
and alot hots chicks here...so u know la lolx... ONS.., sorry Bs alot lolx


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QUOTE(QuackSilver @ Sep 19 2007, 10:19 PM)
one of the requirements of working with defense technology is having enough security clearances, ie having an australian citizenship. dont know about the companies in SA but i did ask Boeing about working with them, they said australian citizenship is a must for almost every job related to their defence contracts
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okla..sure..in 6 years time ~


Added on September 19, 2007, 10:43 pm
QUOTE(3ric @ Sep 19 2007, 01:36 PM)
the prob is 4 years ago my mom did remortage the hosue for my sis to study in Australia, and my parents starting clearing their debts for bank, and i do not want them to worry so much and thats why i would like to ask for study loan.  smile.gif

my course is around RM 40 K maximum, my sister is in Melb already and she's been working for eyars now, I can work part time to support myself for other expenses except the roof for shelter from my sis.  tongue.gif 

May i ask agian what about the PTPTN loan? will it applicable for RMIT?
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u want loan or scholarship?
coz i just found tat IDP did listed something about international student scholarships
so try to see IDP, eric..maybe they can help you sort out abit..


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post Sep 19 2007, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Sep 19 2007, 11:41 PM)
Cool,i dont mind working for a defense company. rclxms.gif  rclxm9.gif

So,Adelaide is not some not so developed state.Seems like a decent place to go.

Then,whats the reason that almost everyone just go to Melbourne and Sydney's uni?It seems like no one goes to places like Perth and Adelaide.
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As QuackSilver said, you got to be a Australian citizen in order to work in the defense sector. But nvm, this shows Adelaide is still a good uni. And there is other industry in SA as well.
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post Sep 20 2007, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Sep 19 2007, 10:39 PM)
coz it is very boring in adelaide, perth and brisbane
melbourne and sydney is like singapore and kl for SEA
and alot HK, all sort of people here..
besides..it is cooler to be here lol!
the weather..can go ski during winter, summer see bush fires . lolx.
and alot hots chicks here...so u know la  lolx... ONS.., sorry Bs alot lolx
Do you come to Australia to study or look at "hots chicks"? I'd say you might have better luck staying in KL with all the Ah Lians.

Brisbane boring? Maybe its because I come from the East side of Malaysia, but how on earth is Brisbane "boring"? I admit, its not a patch as wild and busy as Melbourne and Sydney, but boring?! Damn you KL people.
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I have been to Brisbane and i dont see that it's boring.It's just like a smaller city than KL and thats about it.

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