thanks for the first post. but that's normalized for india prices.

here's when it's normalized to malaysian prices:

adjusted for RM1.90 per kg LPG from KPDNKK controlled pricing.
adjusted for RM0.33 per unit electricity averaged from normal RM150-ish bill.

assuming that this :

is correct.
the original reference at http://www1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/appl...fs/cookgtsd.pdf could no longer be found.

so no.
LPG cooking is still cheaper in malaysia. even when the efficiency is at 40%. if you take into account the adoption cost of a good induction cooker, the higher risk of failure of the component; it's a no brainer really.

It depends to stove you are using. If we are talking about those fancy stove with built in oven that cost thousands, sure induction cooker win hands down.
But if we were to compare with those old school rm50-100 type of gas stove, no need to say more, gas wins
Now my villa are using induction cooker, the cooking time increase from 25 minutes to 30 minutes. But I counter this problem by using hot water to soften the noodle and vege first to get back the 5 minutes.

some of the first world countries enforce the use of induction is due to the long term cost.

some costs are hidden and you'll not see it immediately, such the effect of petrol based burning cost to the environment.

i don't want to provide too much details as it will derail everything. if you want a short answer whether gas stove or induction which one cost more, I can directly tell you it is gas stove.

Can't say like this. Have to see where our stand is.

thanks for the first post. but that's normalized for india prices.

here's when it's normalized to malaysian prices:

adjusted for RM1.90 per kg LPG from KPDNKK controlled pricing.
adjusted for RM0.33 per unit electricity averaged from normal RM150-ish bill.

assuming that this :

is correct.
the original reference at http://www1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/appl...fs/cookgtsd.pdf could no longer be found.

so no.
LPG cooking is still cheaper in malaysia. even when the efficiency is at 40%. if you take into account the adoption cost of a good induction cooker, the higher risk of failure of the component; it's a no brainer really.

Another question coming in now, how you get the hot water?
You are right, some of the country yes. But definitely not in Malaysia. Maybe you do not know Malaysia rate. Do refer to paskal post.

Environmental friendly or not will be another aspect.
You refer to paskal post then you will know why i say rewer is not from Malaysia.
Yes, this is more applicable to Malaysian.

If want to go green, induction cooker seems to be better option, as we don't generate CO2 inside our house while using gas yes.

sorry but that is complete nonsense. our electricity comes from gas and coal. they burn it! this causes even more CO2 because conversion of gas-electric-electric losses-conversion to heat is way more CO2 producing than going gas-burn. no way to argue about that.

Good calculation. Electric charges 33cents is average price? our non subsidy rate is 50+ cents.

yes. for users up to 400 units/400 kwh per month. bill should be RM128.6, which translates to RM0.32 per unit (RM128.6/400).



but people with RM130 bill usually aren't the ones that will go with these high tech cooking thingy.
let's adjust to people with bill at RM230 as those people are more likely to get one.

RM231.8 / 500 units = average at RM0.4636 per unit.
so it will get to this:


but hey, if you bought one of this induction thingy and it bumped your bill up to the >600 unit, you average will be even higher. the cost will go even higher.

How come the tariffs go up and come down again one?

the tariff did not come down. how come you see it as go up and come down?
the table is pretty much straight forward.

the last calculation i did, with the tariff at RM0.33 per unit is from memory. i remember reading the averaged electricity cost for malaysia is RM0.33 per unit. turns out its RM0.32 per unit, for people with bill costing under RM128.

nobody less probability people with electricity bill less than RM130 would even consider going induction. they simply can't afford the cooker. it's a few thousand, which is better spent buying food.

Use this one, direct from TNB

http://www.tnb.com.my/residential/pricing-...riff-rates.html
Tariff A - Domestic Tariff 
For the first 200 kWh (1 - 200 kWh) per month 21.80 sen/kWh
For the next 100 kWh (201 - 300 kWh) per month 33.40 sen/kWh
For the next 300 kWh (301 - 600 kWh) per month 51.60 sen/kWh
For the next 300 kWh (601 - 900 kWh) per month 54.60 sen/kWh
And Onward 57.10 sen/kWh

some of the first world countries enforce the use of induction is due to the long term cost.

some costs are hidden and you'll not see it immediately, such the effect of petrol based burning cost to the environment.

i don't want to provide too much details as it will derail everything. if you want a short answer whether gas stove or induction which one cost more, I can directly tell you it is gas stove.

RM231.8 / 500 units = average at RM0.4636 per unit.
RM 452.70 / 1000 units = average at RM0.4527 per unit.

My calculation wrong?

RM231.8 / 500 units = average at RM0.4636 per unit.
RM 452.70 / 1000 units = average at RM0.4527 per unit.

My calculation wrong?

can't use this one bro. as the tariff is increasing.

people with bill at RM43.6 is paying RM0.218 per unit.
but people with bill at RM77 is paying at RM0.257 per unit. because the next 100 unit after 200 is at RM0.334
and people with RM128.6 is paying at RM0.3215 per unit for their 400 unit of usage.

did you get it?
it's averaged for all the units.

you can't say your AC costs cheaper to run at the start of the month because your bill is by then <200 unit and costs higher at the end of the month because by then you bill is already over 600 unit.

you still don't know how to calculate your electricity bill ah? aiseh.

say u used 500 units.
first 200 unit  = 0.218 per unit  = RM21.8
next 100 unit after 200 = 0.334/unit  = RM33.4
next 200 hundred after that 200 = 0.516/unit  = RM103.3

so total = 21.8 + 33.4 + 103.3 = RM158.5
so your average per unit is at RM0.317

feel free to correct.

No need to argue here. Gas is still the cheapest in Malaysia. However in term of efficiency. Induction>Hot Plate>Gas but still gas is the cheapest to operate. Take my words