I saw many ppl in malaysia still use gas stove whereas in sg almost all use induction cooker.why?
induction cooker vs gas stove
induction cooker vs gas stove
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Sep 30 2014, 07:28 PM, updated 12y ago
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I saw many ppl in malaysia still use gas stove whereas in sg almost all use induction cooker.why?
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Sep 30 2014, 07:32 PM
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nothing wrong ...... just their choice ma ....
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Sep 30 2014, 07:34 PM
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singapore gas mahal, while in malaysia gas still cheap
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Sep 30 2014, 09:22 PM
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Sep 30 2014, 10:02 PM
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Sep 30 2014, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Sep 30 2014, 09:22 PM) http://www.citygas.com.sg/forhome/useful-info-2/gas-tariffs/ http://www.singaporepower.com.sg/irj/servl...ID1332134938209 > The electricity tariff for households is 25.28 cents per kWh (with effect from 1 Oct 14 to 31 Dec 14) > The gas tariff for households is 21.06 cents per kWh (with effect from 1 Aug 14 to 31 Oct 14) > The water tariff for households is $1.17 per cubic metre (below 40m3) and $1.40 per cubic metre (above 40m3) So Gas is cheaper or Electric cheaper? Induction is easy, footprint are smaller, it heat up fast, efficient than gas. Induction may not be as reliable as gas because it have electronic component. If you use lots of hot water e.g. hot shower, gas still cheaper. And Rinnai sell lots of gas heater in Singapore. |
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Oct 1 2014, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Sep 30 2014, 07:28 PM) It really depends on what you want/need.Definitely induction cooker consumption cost is higher than gas cooker, but it look neat and mush faster to heat up. And some people say gas cooker can produce a higher overall heat which can cook better. In Cantonese they call it 'Wok hei' Technically i believe is due to gas cooker can produce a more even heat on all surface of the food, rather than an induction cooker which produce heat by the induction plate surface only. |
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Oct 1 2014, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Oct 1 2014, 09:54 AM) It really depends on what you want/need. quite the contrary, it is the opposite, gas cooker cost more than induction cooker.Definitely induction cooker consumption cost is higher than gas cooker, but it look neat and mush faster to heat up. And some people say gas cooker can produce a higher overall heat which can cook better. In Cantonese they call it 'Wok hei' Technically i believe is due to gas cooker can produce a more even heat on all surface of the food, rather than an induction cooker which produce heat by the induction plate surface only. see here: https://www.bijlibachao.com/appliances/cook...-induction.html pls note m'sia using LPG stove (Liquefied Petroleum Gas) i can see pretty soon induction will replace gas cooker in future. |
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Oct 1 2014, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Oct 1 2014, 10:13 AM) quite the contrary, it is the opposite, gas cooker cost more than induction cooker. Come back 10 years you see gas still selling and people still using it to cook. Electric cost more to produce, because most untility company it still use natural gas to produce. Unless we switch to nuclear.see here: https://www.bijlibachao.com/appliances/cook...-induction.html pls note m'sia using LPG stove (Liquefied Petroleum Gas) i can see pretty soon induction will replace gas cooker in future. Gas produce good heat compare to induction, especially good for Chinese cooking. |
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Oct 1 2014, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Oct 1 2014, 10:13 AM) quite the contrary, it is the opposite, gas cooker cost more than induction cooker. Malaysia got gas subsidy. So the induction still can't beat the gas cooker for the cost of a meal. see here: https://www.bijlibachao.com/appliances/cook...-induction.html pls note m'sia using LPG stove (Liquefied Petroleum Gas) i can see pretty soon induction will replace gas cooker in future. And when the gas cost up, electricity cost up also. I use induction cook for whole mth and the bill can shoot extra RM10-15+/mth. This is just 1 cook ring /1800w. How long 1 tong gas last? The good of induction is, it easy to clean and takecare. No gas tong, hose and regulator. No fire hazard and explosion. But still can't beat the gas fire. The way the fire heat the cook ware even. And the fire that can reach the cookware surface where induction can't. |
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Oct 1 2014, 10:44 AM
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Speed of cooking
Energy cost Safety and maintenance Choose any 2 out of the 3. This post has been edited by halcyon27: Oct 1 2014, 10:45 AM |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Oct 1 2014, 10:33 AM) Malaysia got gas subsidy. So the induction still can't beat the gas cooker for the cost of a meal. Without subsidy, gas still cheaper. Singapore is a good example to check the utility price.And when the gas cost up, electricity cost up also. I use induction cook for whole mth and the bill can shoot extra RM10-15+/mth. This is just 1 cook ring /1800w. How long 1 tong gas last? The good of induction is, it easy to clean and takecare. No gas tong, hose and regulator. No fire hazard and explosion. But still can't beat the gas fire. The way the fire heat the cook ware even. And the fire that can reach the cookware surface where induction can't. |
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Oct 1 2014, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Oct 1 2014, 10:13 AM) quite the contrary, it is the opposite, gas cooker cost more than induction cooker. Probably you are not living in Malaysia.see here: https://www.bijlibachao.com/appliances/cook...-induction.html pls note m'sia using LPG stove (Liquefied Petroleum Gas) i can see pretty soon induction will replace gas cooker in future. |
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Oct 1 2014, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Oct 1 2014, 10:21 AM) Come back 10 years you see gas still selling and people still using it to cook. Electric cost more to produce, because most untility company it still use natural gas to produce. Unless we switch to nuclear. Granted, this conjecture assumes no new discovery of gas fields within the next 10 years. South East Indian Ocean or near it could hold potential gas reserves. Thanks to effort to comb for the ill-fated MH370. On the face of it, you may be right if none turns up within the 10 years. But hey, anything can happen.Gas produce good heat compare to induction, especially good for Chinese cooking. |
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Oct 1 2014, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Oct 1 2014, 09:54 AM) It really depends on what you want/need. It depends to stove you are using. If we are talking about those fancy stove with built in oven that cost thousands, sure induction cooker win hands down.Definitely induction cooker consumption cost is higher than gas cooker, but it look neat and mush faster to heat up. And some people say gas cooker can produce a higher overall heat which can cook better. In Cantonese they call it 'Wok hei' Technically i believe is due to gas cooker can produce a more even heat on all surface of the food, rather than an induction cooker which produce heat by the induction plate surface only. But if we were to compare with those old school rm50-100 type of gas stove, no need to say more, gas wins Now my villa are using induction cooker, the cooking time increase from 25 minutes to 30 minutes. But I counter this problem by using hot water to soften the noodle and vege first to get back the 5 minutes. |
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Oct 1 2014, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Oct 1 2014, 11:04 AM) some of the first world countries enforce the use of induction is due to the long term cost.some costs are hidden and you'll not see it immediately, such the effect of petrol based burning cost to the environment. i don't want to provide too much details as it will derail everything. if you want a short answer whether gas stove or induction which one cost more, I can directly tell you it is gas stove. |
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Oct 1 2014, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Oct 1 2014, 10:33 AM) Malaysia got gas subsidy. So the induction still can't beat the gas cooker for the cost of a meal. At least 2 months or more. Still depending greatly on type of stove used.And when the gas cost up, electricity cost up also. I use induction cook for whole mth and the bill can shoot extra RM10-15+/mth. This is just 1 cook ring /1800w. How long 1 tong gas last? The good of induction is, it easy to clean and takecare. No gas tong, hose and regulator. No fire hazard and explosion. But still can't beat the gas fire. The way the fire heat the cook ware even. And the fire that can reach the cookware surface where induction can't. |
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Oct 1 2014, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Oct 1 2014, 11:04 AM) Can't say like this. Have to see where our stand is.QUOTE(ReWeR @ Oct 1 2014, 12:02 PM) some of the first world countries enforce the use of induction is due to the long term cost. Actually LPG do release some cancer causing agents. some costs are hidden and you'll not see it immediately, such the effect of petrol based burning cost to the environment. i don't want to provide too much details as it will derail everything. if you want a short answer whether gas stove or induction which one cost more, I can directly tell you it is gas stove. But when telling this to our old men, they will say, I already cooked for so many years and nothing happen to me |
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Oct 1 2014, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Oct 1 2014, 11:13 AM) Granted, this conjecture assumes no new discovery of gas fields within the next 10 years. South East Indian Ocean or near it could hold potential gas reserves. Thanks to effort to comb for the ill-fated MH370. On the face of it, you may be right if none turns up within the 10 years. But hey, anything can happen. If there are no more discovery all energy will sure go up. |
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Oct 1 2014, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Oct 1 2014, 12:02 PM) some of the first world countries enforce the use of induction is due to the long term cost. thanks for the first post. but that's normalized for india prices.some costs are hidden and you'll not see it immediately, such the effect of petrol based burning cost to the environment. i don't want to provide too much details as it will derail everything. if you want a short answer whether gas stove or induction which one cost more, I can directly tell you it is gas stove. here's when it's normalized to malaysian prices: ![]() adjusted for RM1.90 per kg LPG from KPDNKK controlled pricing. adjusted for RM0.33 per unit electricity averaged from normal RM150-ish bill. assuming that this : QUOTE Let’s take an example that we want to boil 10 ltrs of water (at 25 degrees). So the energy required for the same is: 10000 x 4.2 x 75 = 3150000 Joules. is correct. the original reference at http://www1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/appl...fs/cookgtsd.pdf could no longer be found. so no. LPG cooking is still cheaper in malaysia. even when the efficiency is at 40%. if you take into account the adoption cost of a good induction cooker, the higher risk of failure of the component; it's a no brainer really. |
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