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post Sep 30 2014, 07:28 PM, updated 12y ago

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I saw many ppl in malaysia still use gas stove whereas in sg almost all use induction cooker.why?
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post Sep 30 2014, 07:32 PM

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nothing wrong ...... just their choice ma .... icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 30 2014, 07:34 PM

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singapore gas mahal, while in malaysia gas still cheap
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post Sep 30 2014, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(foohoa @ Sep 30 2014, 07:34 PM)
singapore gas mahal, while in malaysia gas still cheap
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But still using induction here also cheaper and fast cooking
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post Sep 30 2014, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Sep 30 2014, 09:22 PM)
But still using induction here also cheaper and fast cooking
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if u go serious for cooking
the induction was not hot enough,
if western food then no problem la
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post Sep 30 2014, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Sep 30 2014, 09:22 PM)
But still using induction here also cheaper and fast cooking
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http://www.citygas.com.sg/forhome/useful-info-2/gas-tariffs/

http://www.singaporepower.com.sg/irj/servl...ID1332134938209


> The electricity tariff for households is 25.28 cents per kWh (with effect from 1 Oct 14 to 31 Dec 14)

> The gas tariff for households is 21.06 cents per kWh (with effect from 1 Aug 14 to 31 Oct 14)

> The water tariff for households is $1.17 per cubic metre (below 40m3) and $1.40 per cubic metre (above
40m3)


So Gas is cheaper or Electric cheaper?

Induction is easy, footprint are smaller, it heat up fast, efficient than gas. Induction may not be as reliable as gas because it have electronic component.

If you use lots of hot water e.g. hot shower, gas still cheaper. And Rinnai sell lots of gas heater in Singapore.
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post Oct 1 2014, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Sep 30 2014, 07:28 PM)
I saw many ppl in malaysia still use gas stove whereas in sg almost all use induction cooker.why?
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It really depends on what you want/need.
Definitely induction cooker consumption cost is higher than gas cooker, but it look neat and mush faster to heat up.

And some people say gas cooker can produce a higher overall heat which can cook better. In Cantonese they call it 'Wok hei' Technically i believe is due to gas cooker can produce a more even heat on all surface of the food, rather than an induction cooker which produce heat by the induction plate surface only.
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post Oct 1 2014, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Oct 1 2014, 09:54 AM)
It really depends on what you want/need.
Definitely induction cooker consumption cost is higher than gas cooker, but it look neat and mush faster to heat up.

And some people say gas cooker can produce a higher overall heat  which can cook better. In Cantonese they call it 'Wok hei' Technically i believe is due to gas cooker can produce a more even heat on all surface of the food, rather than an induction cooker which produce heat by the induction plate surface only.
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quite the contrary, it is the opposite, gas cooker cost more than induction cooker.

see here: https://www.bijlibachao.com/appliances/cook...-induction.html

pls note m'sia using LPG stove (Liquefied Petroleum Gas)

i can see pretty soon induction will replace gas cooker in future.
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post Oct 1 2014, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Oct 1 2014, 10:13 AM)
quite the contrary, it is the opposite, gas cooker cost more than induction cooker.

see here: https://www.bijlibachao.com/appliances/cook...-induction.html

pls note m'sia using LPG stove (Liquefied Petroleum Gas)

i can see pretty soon induction will replace gas cooker in future.
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Come back 10 years you see gas still selling and people still using it to cook. Electric cost more to produce, because most untility company it still use natural gas to produce. Unless we switch to nuclear.

Gas produce good heat compare to induction, especially good for Chinese cooking.
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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Oct 1 2014, 10:13 AM)
quite the contrary, it is the opposite, gas cooker cost more than induction cooker.

see here: https://www.bijlibachao.com/appliances/cook...-induction.html

pls note m'sia using LPG stove (Liquefied Petroleum Gas)

i can see pretty soon induction will replace gas cooker in future.
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Malaysia got gas subsidy. So the induction still can't beat the gas cooker for the cost of a meal.

And when the gas cost up, electricity cost up also.

I use induction cook for whole mth and the bill can shoot extra RM10-15+/mth. This is just 1 cook ring /1800w. How long 1 tong gas last?

The good of induction is, it easy to clean and takecare. No gas tong, hose and regulator. No fire hazard and explosion.

But still can't beat the gas fire. The way the fire heat the cook ware even. And the fire that can reach the cookware surface where induction can't.


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post Oct 1 2014, 10:44 AM

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Speed of cooking
Energy cost
Safety and maintenance

Choose any 2 out of the 3.

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QUOTE(ozak @ Oct 1 2014, 10:33 AM)
Malaysia got gas subsidy. So the induction still can't beat the gas cooker for the cost of a meal.

And when the gas cost up, electricity cost up also.

I use induction cook for whole mth and the bill can shoot extra RM10-15+/mth. This is just 1 cook ring /1800w. How long 1 tong gas last?

The good of induction is, it easy to clean and takecare. No gas tong, hose and regulator. No fire hazard and explosion.

But still can't beat the gas fire. The way the fire heat the cook ware even. And the fire that can reach the cookware surface where induction can't.
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Without subsidy, gas still cheaper. Singapore is a good example to check the utility price.
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post Oct 1 2014, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Oct 1 2014, 10:13 AM)
quite the contrary, it is the opposite, gas cooker cost more than induction cooker.

see here: https://www.bijlibachao.com/appliances/cook...-induction.html

pls note m'sia using LPG stove (Liquefied Petroleum Gas)

i can see pretty soon induction will replace gas cooker in future.
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Probably you are not living in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Oct 1 2014, 10:21 AM)
Come back 10 years you see gas still selling and people still using it to cook. Electric cost more to produce, because most untility company it still use natural gas to produce. Unless we switch to nuclear.

Gas produce good heat compare to induction, especially good for Chinese cooking.
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Granted, this conjecture assumes no new discovery of gas fields within the next 10 years. South East Indian Ocean or near it could hold potential gas reserves. Thanks to effort to comb for the ill-fated MH370. On the face of it, you may be right if none turns up within the 10 years. But hey, anything can happen.
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Oct 1 2014, 09:54 AM)
It really depends on what you want/need.
Definitely induction cooker consumption cost is higher than gas cooker, but it look neat and mush faster to heat up.

And some people say gas cooker can produce a higher overall heat  which can cook better. In Cantonese they call it 'Wok hei' Technically i believe is due to gas cooker can produce a more even heat on all surface of the food, rather than an induction cooker which produce heat by the induction plate surface only.
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It depends to stove you are using. If we are talking about those fancy stove with built in oven that cost thousands, sure induction cooker win hands down.
But if we were to compare with those old school rm50-100 type of gas stove, no need to say more, gas wins thumbup.gif
Now my villa are using induction cooker, the cooking time increase from 25 minutes to 30 minutes. But I counter this problem by using hot water to soften the noodle and vege first to get back the 5 minutes.


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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Oct 1 2014, 11:04 AM)
Probably you are not living in Malaysia.
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some of the first world countries enforce the use of induction is due to the long term cost.

some costs are hidden and you'll not see it immediately, such the effect of petrol based burning cost to the environment.

i don't want to provide too much details as it will derail everything. if you want a short answer whether gas stove or induction which one cost more, I can directly tell you it is gas stove.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Oct 1 2014, 10:33 AM)
Malaysia got gas subsidy. So the induction still can't beat the gas cooker for the cost of a meal.

And when the gas cost up, electricity cost up also.

I use induction cook for whole mth and the bill can shoot extra RM10-15+/mth. This is just 1 cook ring /1800w. How long 1 tong gas last?

The good of induction is, it easy to clean and takecare. No gas tong, hose and regulator. No fire hazard and explosion.

But still can't beat the gas fire. The way the fire heat the cook ware even. And the fire that can reach the cookware surface where induction can't.
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At least 2 months or more. Still depending greatly on type of stove used.
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post Oct 1 2014, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Oct 1 2014, 11:04 AM)
Probably you are not living in Malaysia.
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Can't say like this. Have to see where our stand is.

QUOTE(ReWeR @ Oct 1 2014, 12:02 PM)
some of the first world countries enforce the use of induction is due to the long term cost.

some costs are hidden and you'll not see it immediately, such the effect of petrol based burning cost to the environment.

i don't want to provide too much details as it will derail everything. if you want a short answer whether gas stove or induction which one cost more, I can directly tell you it is gas stove.
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Actually LPG do release some cancer causing agents.
But when telling this to our old men, they will say, I already cooked for so many years and nothing happen to me laugh.gif
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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Oct 1 2014, 11:13 AM)
Granted, this conjecture assumes no new discovery of gas fields within the next 10 years. South East Indian Ocean or near it could hold potential gas reserves. Thanks to effort to comb for the ill-fated MH370. On the face of it, you may be right if none turns up within the 10 years. But hey, anything can happen.
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If there are no more discovery all energy will sure go up.
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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Oct 1 2014, 12:02 PM)
some of the first world countries enforce the use of induction is due to the long term cost.

some costs are hidden and you'll not see it immediately, such the effect of petrol based burning cost to the environment.

i don't want to provide too much details as it will derail everything. if you want a short answer whether gas stove or induction which one cost more, I can directly tell you it is gas stove.
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thanks for the first post. but that's normalized for india prices.

here's when it's normalized to malaysian prices:
user posted image
adjusted for RM1.90 per kg LPG from KPDNKK controlled pricing.
adjusted for RM0.33 per unit electricity averaged from normal RM150-ish bill.

assuming that this :
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Let’s take an example that we want to boil 10 ltrs of water (at 25 degrees). So the energy required for the same is:
10000 x 4.2 x 75 = 3150000 Joules.

is correct.
the original reference at http://www1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/appl...fs/cookgtsd.pdf could no longer be found.

so no.
LPG cooking is still cheaper in malaysia. even when the efficiency is at 40%. if you take into account the adoption cost of a good induction cooker, the higher risk of failure of the component; it's a no brainer really.

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