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Investment PARKHILL RESIDENCE | PPA1M BUKIT JALIL [OT], Tallest In The Sky. Next to APU Campus.

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Chris Chew
post Oct 7 2014, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(ixus @ Oct 6 2014, 10:18 PM)
Dear all the Taiko's,

I would like to seek for your advice on the investment strategy for this property. This is undeniable that this property is very attractive due to its low entry price compared to market value in Bukit Jalil. I am a short term investor and prefer to sell the condo upon completion.

The following is my simple yield calculation, please advise and correct me if i am wrong.

Investment Option 1: Park Hill Bukit Jalil
a) Value Gain
Purchasing Price:      550,000
Selling Price at 2018: 750,000
Gain = 200,000

Investment Cost
Downpayment: 80,000
Progressive Interest: 10,000
Total Cost = 90,000

Investment Yield = (Gain - Cost)/Cost = 122%

Investment Option 2: Symphony Residence Kajang
a) Value Gain
Purchasing Price:      330,000
Selling Price at 2017: 400,000
Gain = 70,000

Investment Cost
Downpayment: 5,000 (approximately 10% rebate)
Progressive Interest: 9,000
Total Cost = 14,000

Investment Yield = (Gain - Cost)/Cost = 370% !!!

So from the calculation above, I feel that we should go for investment with downpayment rebate. Yes it is true that nowadays goverment has been banned the developer to offer downpayment rebate, but yet you still can see that there are alot of such rebate offers available in the market.

Hope for the advice from all the sifu at here. I am just a new potato in property investment
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Hmm, I reckon u r using my way of Cash on Cash Return or COCR. Some investors used COCR or some using ROI. I used both anyway.

U forgot to add in the cost of
1) Progressive interest is diff for a 3 v 4 years project. Same goes to low floor vs high floor.

2) You didnt stated ur loan amount but I assume 90% bcz u looking for project with rebates. If this is the case, RM 10k progressive interest is quite low for a 42-48 months highrise.

3) Cost of S&P upon disposing the property

4) Cost of agent fee upon disposing the unit

5) Cost of RPGT, the most important figure if u r the type of flip immediatelt upon VPed.

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post Oct 7 2014, 02:19 AM

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his assumption of this condo being 800k in 2017 is too optimistic in my opinion.. if this is 800 then Z mus be 900..
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post Oct 7 2014, 07:00 AM

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Too many assumptions. The comparison has no meaning.
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post Oct 7 2014, 08:17 AM

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Have to be realistic lar. The company needs to make profit too. At 550 psf plus 2 carparks the money is stretched very thin. How the condo turns out may end more ala Vista Komanwel than The Treez given the price.

700k upon VP quite optimistic Imo.


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post Oct 7 2014, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Oct 7 2014, 02:19 AM)
his assumption of this condo being 800k in 2017 is too optimistic in my opinion.. if this is 800 then Z mus be 900..
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Well.... All property owners still in believe the price will be push to another height, but in slower rate. Met a few, they expecting the landed, even in Puchong one to hit min 1 mil to 2 mil in 5 years time.. So, those condo might as well increase.

Still low mah, property price in Malaysia and still a lot of rich people in Malaysia. I can see still have people buy property like buying vege.

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post Oct 7 2014, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(JustNobody @ Oct 6 2014, 06:33 PM)
Well.... All property owners still in believe the price will be push to another height, but in slower rate. Met a few, they expecting the landed, even in Puchong one to hit min 1 mil to 2 mil in 5 years time.. So, those condo might as well increase.

Still low mah, property price in Malaysia and still a lot of rich people in Malaysia. I can see still have people buy property like buying vege.
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ya pipu buy like vege but im already worried... I see some companies retrenching d.. O&G activity in Msia is down d.. IB also down.. share market doing badly.. I would think before buying like vege..
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post Oct 7 2014, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(ivanpei @ Oct 7 2014, 08:17 AM)
Have to be realistic lar. The company needs to make profit too. At 550 psf plus 2 carparks the money is stretched very thin. How the condo turns out may end more ala Vista Komanwel than The Treez given the price.

700k upon VP quite optimistic Imo.
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post Oct 7 2014, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(peri peri @ Oct 7 2014, 09:44 AM)
got investor group buying enbloc at rm4++ psft, good luck if you wanna fight to flip with them later
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Cross post it here since this is supposed to be the main thread.

Any other comments ?
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post Oct 7 2014, 09:50 PM

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Hi all sifus, may i know roughly how much or % is the progressive interest we're looking at in the next 3.5 yrs?
And with this entry cost, shall i just consider subsale like the zest instead? thanks.

This post has been edited by venusdelite: Oct 7 2014, 09:52 PM
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post Oct 7 2014, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(venusdelite @ Oct 7 2014, 09:50 PM)
Hi all sifus, may i know roughly how much or % is the progressive interest we're looking at in the next 3.5 yrs?
And with this entry cost, shall i just consider subsale like the zest instead? thanks.
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If you notice the previous projects which developer do offers DIBS, those cash buyers can opt for without DIBS, they will get extra 5% rebate.

So i think that would be the total interest incurred. Developer shall be very prudence in calculating their cost.

So say you loan for RM500K, 5% , Thus 25K interest incurred over the construction period.

Bankers can correct me if mine assumption is wrong.


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post Oct 7 2014, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(venusdelite @ Oct 7 2014, 09:50 PM)
Hi all sifus, may i know roughly how much or % is the progressive interest we're looking at in the next 3.5 yrs?
And with this entry cost, shall i just consider subsale like the zest instead? thanks.
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Why 3.5 yrs?
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post Oct 7 2014, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Oct 7 2014, 11:08 PM)
Why 3.5 yrs?
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Total completion period for this project.
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post Oct 7 2014, 11:16 PM

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i heard there the land is own by TBM IS NOT BY DBKL is it true?

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QUOTE(venusdelite @ Oct 7 2014, 10:17 PM)
Total completion period for this project.
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OK let me estimate

Loan : 500K
Construction period : 3.5 yrs
Interest : 4.45%
Under construction interested charges period till VP : 10%-80%

1st bank drawdown is expected to be 3rd month after signing the SPA

Projected total under construction interest :-

= 500K x 70% / 2 x 3.5 x 39/42 x 4.45%
= 25,309.37

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post Oct 8 2014, 01:59 AM

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Land is DBKL, that's why it's selling cheap. Like those days Midfields by YTL also land from DBKL, selling price was 180k after disc, Now 600k. Hope this info clear the mind about pricing.
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post Oct 8 2014, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(tongyk @ Oct 8 2014, 01:59 AM)
Land is DBKL, that's why it's selling cheap. Like those days Midfields by YTL also land from DBKL, selling price was 180k after disc, Now 600k. Hope this info clear the mind about pricing.
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land now own by TBM , TBM lease to developer 99 year. can anyone find out
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post Oct 8 2014, 11:55 AM

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may i know the main entrence is tepi astro or tepi hockey stadium ?

im interested too.


registered !!!

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post Oct 8 2014, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(ah_fui @ Oct 8 2014, 11:55 AM)
may i know the main entrence is tepi astro or tepi hockey stadium ?

im interested too.
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Tepi astro. Hockey side I think is pedestrian only, if the involved authorities are not closing the gates.

Correct me if I am wrong ....

This post has been edited by puchongite: Oct 8 2014, 12:04 PM
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post Oct 8 2014, 12:22 PM

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http://www.ppj.gov.my/cpnavigation/PPA1M/index.html

Wonder when they ll launch 2014 balloting...possibly is for this project phase 1
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post Oct 8 2014, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE( QUOTE(peri peri @ Oct 7 2014 @ 09:44 AM)
got investor group buying enbloc at rm4++ psft, good luck if you wanna fight to flip with them later
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 7 2014, 11:09 AM)
Cross post it here since this is supposed to be the main thread.

Any other comments ?
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Goes without saying that this project is BBB for investors...

Register your interest here http://goo.gl/forms/eS1eg5C4FE

or Call 018-2226002 for immediate response/ site viewing.

This post has been edited by discoinferno1: Oct 8 2014, 01:31 PM

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