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Just to point out: There are hundreds billion of galaxies in the observable Universe. And aproximately 300 billion stars in our Milky Way galaxy.

This post has been edited by BeastX: Jan 21 2015, 05:22 AM

And if each galaxy have at least 1 habitable planet it'll be enough for each of us that existed from the time of adam and hawa.
and yet some of us believed that heaven is limited to a certain capacity.

I suppose most Theologians (today) would not ascribe Heaven or Hell to the Physical realm... but to another dimension.

Up there/Down there are no longer unknown...

I agree. We don't have to always connect physical world with the Islamic teachings such as heaven and hell.

Hello , wanted to ask something towards Muslims again

It's not considered gambling right if Muslim play Poker/Blackjack if there is no money involved right ?

Planning to have a Poker Party involving a few Muslims but instead of money , losers will need to eat ultra spicy food instead to spice things up.

No, it is not gambling gambling. I don't see any problem whatsoever with that.

Reason being, it is just a game, for fun, for positive outcome, for relationship. No need for anyone to be a hardass killjoy.
Besides, poker involve a lot of strategical and psychological skill.

while i agree that 3D world doesnt always connect to another dimension. the verse above(langit) when translated to english turns out to be 'heaven'. and it makes me think of angels/jinn who live in physical world like us

i may be wrong here.

That is what we were talking about. About heaven (and hell), not langit/sky/space.

Wrong or right, tak apa lah.. It's good that we have different views..

While it makes you think about angels/jinn, to me, this is about cosmology. And I think you mean "on earth", not "physical world".

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Speaking of cosmology, it's unfortunate that many non-believers think that theist "reject" science. And this happen because of the fault from both sides.
1)
Non-believers, especially "new atheist", they equate their "atheism" with science, it's almost like it should be "scientism" .
Therefore, to them, when we don't agree with their "atheism", we don't agree with science. Which is totally wrong.
2)
Us theist, ourselves, many of us don't think logically because we cage our mind with certain teachings that we received since young.
Islam and science do not go against each other, but I see many muslim only learn Islam, and disregard science.
So they have no counter-arguments to the anti-theist, other than simply calling them kaffir, calling them musuh Islam yang menyesatkan etc.

It's okay to disagree with something (but disagree with respect), if we have adequate knowledge on it, and then make our judgement. But to disagree with something while being ignorant about it, is totally wrong. This goes to both believers and nonbelievers.

This post has been edited by notoriousfiq: Jan 21 2015, 02:17 PM

kiamat itu pasti...kenapa i ada terbaca orang Islam kita meramal kiamat?

takpe ke? dibolehkan? hukumnye?

Xpayah, ikutkan. Mmg dah di confirmkan kita tatau bila. Cuma amek iktibar selagi pintu taubat masih dibuka dan akan ditutup pada bila2 masa..

Assalamualaikum. I just discovered this thread. Harap2 dapat belajar banyak ilmu2 dan pengajaran from this thread. I'm not exactly the most religious muslim in the world but I would love to learn more about my own faith after experiencing a crisis of faith years ago. Happy to say that I'm finally going for my first umrah next week.

Alhamdulillah. May Allah gives you forgiveness and bless you.

didnt know this thread exist...

Thank you for your kind words. Jazakallah khair.

Please come here often and keep this thread active

I hope today's khutbah be one with good knowledge and intellectual.

Haha ok thx , because these kinda of games usually relates to gambling and all.....takut got outsider complain , SWAT team masuk raid lol