ok...... Echobrain can kill you with his equipment.....
not sure about his soloing skills though


just joking......

This post has been edited by blacktrix: Sep 8 2006, 02:09 PM

I agree with blacktrix, ruffstuff you should at least say why you hate solos. You first said you hate solos then you mentioned John Petrucci cover of The Prince's purple rain awesome (not whoresome!@!). You like listening to solos but don't enjoy playing them ?

Solos are very important for any kind of music, be it jazz, bluez, rock, classical and etc. Even in church, sometimes we musicians will solo a part of a song to allow the singers have a breather for a minute or two. You can't just go on singing, you'll run out of air.

It also allows other musicians to get ready, like pianist to change the page of the books, drummers changing from sticks to brushes, other guitarist/bassist to adjust their amps/pedals for the next song and etc.

So its not all about showing off.

true, solos not only give that little extra time for the other musician to prepare for the next riff, but also give the song more definition and more punch...rather than just strum the same ol' patterns over and over again, which can be boring and tedious at times...

personally, i also find that solos are hard to pull off...why? cuz i don't know a single bit of theory, even the major scale i also don't know...so now trying to learn from scratch...(4 years of playing without any knowledge of theory sure suck...)

btw, scale is best learn with someone experienced zit? my friend tried to write it down on a paper but i just don't get what those figures mean anyway...

after watching many many guitarists pro and non-pro, i have come to the conclusion (or rather assumption/hypothesis) that there are a 3 types of solo playing.

1) first type is that you know your theory and your scales and your appregios and your harmonies. And fuse them all together to come up with whopping solos all the time.

2) you know a million licks from a million different guitarist and chop them up and join them together to make sort of a frankenstein solo.

3) you are so full of rhythm that even a 1 note solo sounds cool.

So assuming i am right, i guess theory is just one of the aspects that helps solo playing....The best actually...

i don't have any ideas nowdays.all my feel went away.even i've got feel i can't catch em.i can't reach em,no electronic axe.i need one.desperately,no money,just had accident yday.sighs


i can only guess u hate it coz u can't play it? lol
john petrucci's a god anyway.,

ALERT:self marketing spotted!

Eh? When you're playing classical guitar songs, you're playing a solo. When you're playing a piano song, you're playing a solo. Its just another music instrument being the lead instead of vocals(another instrument). Btw vocals solo too.

Satriani, Vai, Petrucci etc play guitar songs...the main instrument is a guitar instead of vocals. The only thing different is the instrument. It is still music.

Indirectly when u say u hate solos, you are trying to say you hate music...any kind of music.

<to ruffstuff>

This post has been edited by winkybear: Sep 8 2006, 07:07 PM

chill out guys....
you dotn always need to have a reason to hate something
he doesnt like solos.... so what? how does that affect you? it doesnt

Woooooooo. Ruffstuff got a Musician's thread beatdown!!!!!
I bet he's tucking his tail and fleeing the scene already......
Way to go, defenders of the solo!!!!

Honestly.... if Dragonforce, Trivium, The Satch, Vai, Zakk all read his comment... I think they would comment the same thing......

Solos are here to stay and they are grand indeed!!!!

For me, I love solos that mean things. If you listen to the Beatles, George Harrison is amazing at inserting short solos that compliments the track so well. Take the solo from Something, right after a modulation bridge, George takes the track back to the original mellow key with his gentle weeping solo. finally he brings the track to a chromatic climax, which makes absolute musical sense, tell me that's whoresome! Solos aren't just about showing off and if that's what you think, it shows how narrow your thinking is. Time to break the barriers, mate.

Never heard of the cover before, but the irony is... Prince did a tribute to George Harrison few years back and his solo on While My Guitar Gently Weeps was pretty whoresome too. Nonetheless it was great.

echo... the guitarist who could own me in guitar any day, any time.

Heh chill man, take it easy. When you have the chance, get an electric.
Sorry for the mishep, hope you're not badly affected by the accident.

This post has been edited by led_zep_freak: Sep 8 2006, 09:10 PM

as if. ive seen u play and u';re good. u havent seen me play yet. haha.

I've heard your recordings and based on the number of sessions you've been too, you must have gotten lots of experience. hahah...

Don't forget that you and Blacktrix scared off some kids in Bentley's.

I scared 'em off with the pings of death...... those were more like parlor tricks
Echobrain scared 'em off with his guitar skills.........

stop coverin la, being able to scare kids off = skillz

i cant do that

Yeah..
Like Zakk said in his interview..

If The Riff is the Cake... then the Solo is the icing...

Will a cake without icing tastes nice????

HEHE

This post has been edited by davidlow7: Sep 9 2006, 02:08 AM

well you always have the plain buttercake. Which has no icing... Tastes nice too.

i love solos btw...

This post has been edited by Bassix: Sep 9 2006, 08:49 AM

Sure it tastes good... but wouldn't it taste even SWEETER with a thin chocolate frosting on top? And then toss in some sprinkles..... a little vanilla whip.....

excuse me...... I'm going out for cake....
bye!

echobrainproject, talking of our skills : i've never heard to any song of yours ! anything available somewhere ?

solo is not mandatory to make great songs, but the more you master the riffs, the sooner you'll reach a dead end, where you need to add the extra-lick in your riff, or a richer harmonic development... so in the end, you'll be a great rythm player with all the background to be a soloist (but without the will to be one).

i'm listening to the last album "First impressions of Earth" of the Strokes (i'm a die hard of this band) and the guys are doing great riffs (with just one or two-strings rythm, with some tapping or legato, bends, etc...). Very interesting, very close to solo skills actually (i'm sure it was done by many other bands in the 70s, but i've not much musical knowledge of this era - i leave that to led zep )

The Strokes are fresh, I never dug the hype that surrounded their first 2 albums, but the last one was good. To bad the media didn't pick it up, probably because of the 'refined' sound, ah well the media are mostly ignorant fools anyway.

I like the riifs, very funky yet has that 70s rock feel.

pix, most of the recordings i post online are just very rough stuff i recorded on my own. anyways, wait a few more months as i will head off to the studio soon to do TWO recordings for 2 diff bands! one will probably be in december and another about a months time. i hope it all goes well.

i never heard anything of yours, rough stuff or not... i'd like to hear your style, your sound, etc...

anyway, I like it the rough way.

ahem...