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darrencw
post Sep 4 2006, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(ihatework @ Sep 4 2006, 09:27 AM)
hmm but some of them are too fast to catch
i know the scale formations but lack ideas  cry.gif
and i'm also not familiar with the fretboard after the 5th fret for each string
does anyone know any method that can help me with this?
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Dude,practise is important.familiarise urself with the fretwork and tone.

appregios.and then start by playing C/Am pentatonic scale if u wanna start.Proceed slowly until u can improvise on songs.Go for simple 4 chord songs first...
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post Sep 4 2006, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(Bassix @ Sep 4 2006, 09:41 AM)
i would however be very careful on pentatonic scales. Because this is a problem that almost every musician or better said guitarists and bassists face.

The first scale that i started practicing was pentatonic. I learned all the notes of every pentatonic scale all over the fretboard. And after that all my solos sounded the same. So umm, don't overdo pentatonic. It's so dangerous because that one scale usually fits over every chord in many modern tunes today. And i think i'm not speaking for myself when i say that we are all lazy after we find something that works all the time. biggrin.gif
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if its so i think i''ve made a mistake.i've not learned other scales other than pentatonic alone.Reason:lazy,too dependant.i don't have other resources to learn.i've learned everything myself.i don't have an exlectric axe also...sighs...no wonder what i play sounds boring..
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post Sep 6 2006, 12:37 PM

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i can feel,but i cannot play what i want in my head because its just limited!

i can't reach that note and speed.is it caused by the overused pentatonic scale?

i'm getting worried.i only know 2 scales.,the pentatoni and the hamornic that i forgot the name.
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post Sep 8 2006, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Sep 6 2006, 02:19 PM)
Why don't you get backing track and record your improvised solo?? Then post it here and let the experts like Pix and Jemi comment??? Maybe there're flaws that you haven't noticed earlier or ideas you may have not thought of??

Recording quality doesn't matter. laugh.gif
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i don't have any ideas nowdays.all my feel went away.even i've got feel i can't catch em.i can't reach em,no electronic axe.i need one.desperately,no money,just had accident yday.sighs


QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Sep 8 2006, 01:26 PM)
zomg i haet solos.

Have you guys heard the John Petrucci cover the prince's purple rain.  Pretty whoresome!@!
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i can only guess u hate it coz u can't play it? lol
john petrucci's a god anyway.,

QUOTE(blacktrix @ Sep 8 2006, 01:51 PM)
If you hate solos (and you obviously hate the dictionary judging from your spelling), get the f' out of this thread.......

Seriously. Why do you hate solos? Personal opinion? Music industry brainwashing? What?

I hate people who complain without giving their reasons.........

And don't forget man........ you're in a thread FILLED with awsome guitarists.... led_zep is a meanie in SRV blues, Pix will chomp off your head with his Satriani infuesed licks, Jemi and Zero can solo faster then they can run, and I will personally unleash a Black Label beating......
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post Sep 10 2006, 11:10 PM

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anyway guys,when is the next gathering?i need inspiration from people to start playing again.i've been not playng for long!
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post Sep 11 2006, 05:10 PM

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u can always start with the Am pentatonic.its the easiest of all.

i'm sure nobody can fully benefit from the escales book.these scales are not easy to play.nor master.tthose name like myxoridian are funny tho...better t stcik to pentatonics first..

to start ur own solo u need some feel and basic of the penta's first.get some licks and riffs to sget started.as time goes by the more u play u can do it.
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post Sep 11 2006, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Sep 11 2006, 06:02 PM)
modes are actually very very simple. its just the name that scares beginners off.
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bro me and u different standards la.i've tried new scales.i can't play anything outta it.

like i said earlier,i'm a noob. heh
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post Sep 14 2006, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Sep 11 2006, 08:41 PM)
im sure everyone who solos used modes at times. u may not realise it.

all the best sean392

darrencw, dont worry, ive been there and took me quite a while before i could actually solo. just keep working on it. have more confidence. i used to complain alot too such as i dont have a teacher, i have no skills, listening skills are weak, i take quite a while before being able to learn something, not enough gears, etc. I still do complain so i have to keep reminding myself not to and get back working on my chops.
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I don't have the necessary gear to improve myself.How can u go on with a 100+ bucks guitar?
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post Sep 15 2006, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(Bassix @ Sep 15 2006, 10:08 AM)

major 7th - ionian
minor 7th - dorian
7th - mixolydian
minor 7b5 (augmented i think..) - locrian

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wtf is this?
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post Sep 15 2006, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(klifex @ Sep 15 2006, 11:52 AM)
er...he's really a beginner...sure dunno ...
how about starting from a some basic training like fingering training...
i wonderng whether you can use all your fingers to press on the fret board...
started from the E strings, position all your fingers at the 4 first freds, then pick one by one...continue your practice by moving up one string....

make sure the sound is clean~

this is the very very basic
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I'm not a noob la...I just never explore those modes...so i didin't know anything about it.Sounds sarcastic to me...
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post Sep 18 2006, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Sep 18 2006, 01:33 PM)
And when you have a mistake of a haircut:

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You shave it off!

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I think Satch made a bet with Vai."If u could shred faster than me,i'll shave my head forever!"

I guess thats why he shaved his head...
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post Sep 19 2006, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Sep 18 2006, 05:50 PM)
And then Zakk came in with his awsome hair and Joe and Steve weeped softly....

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Why are you always out of topic? Zakk Wyde.The reason why Satch shved himself is to differrentiate himself as a pro guitarist comparing to the 2 noob guitarist.

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post Sep 19 2006, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Sep 19 2006, 11:53 AM)
NOW you're the one going off-topic......
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Opps...I'm learning to solo now...1-2-3-4,1-3-4,1-2-3-4,0-1-3-4,1-2-4,1-3-4.
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post Sep 20 2006, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(ian31 @ Sep 20 2006, 10:48 AM)
hey dude...let's say you wanna solo in d minor...
they keys that are attached to it follows this rule too? --> maj-min-min-maj-maj-min-dim ?

or they have another rule?
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Okay,now what does the -dim means?

I understand that MAj and Min stands for major and minor.But what does dim means?

Diminshed? But i don't understand what does diminished means?

Does it mean that the chord can be played minor and major and still sound alright?
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post Sep 20 2006, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Sep 20 2006, 09:00 PM)
dim = diminished. cant really remember the exact theory, but if my memory serves me well one note is flatted.

its the opposite of aug, augmented. where one note is sharped
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Ok,lets see if this is correct.Diminshed C chord is the C note on the second string flatted? But all the other notes stays the same?
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post Sep 21 2006, 09:59 AM

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I suck in theories.My church member used to taught me all this.Just that i forgot.Well i've been playing for 7 years now.Not really a begginer,but i ain't that good either.I just dont have that kinda privellege to own my own axe until now.I don't come from a rich family so i have to use a kapok for like 7 years until now.I've been saving up to get my own axe.For some of you 2,000 might not be a big issue but it's a big issue for me.I don't have a family that can afford to buy me a guitar and guitar lessons.I learn everything the hard way.Yes,people say its not how long u play but its how much do i play.FYI i practised around 6 hours everyday when i was in high school.Only in this few years i've not been playing.

By the way,i don't see any points in saying that a newbie or a begginer can't learn diminished stuff.Just because ure a begginer/newbie you can't learn something for the sake of knowledge? Getting benefits from it and learning is two different thing.Everyone's been through the newbie stage before and i'm sure that all of you know how eager is it for you to learn something new.I hope u seriously judge your statements before making it in the public.I don't see a point in stressing someone is a begginer so many times.It sounded like a joke for the first time,but not when u repeat it.I understand that there are great players out there,but bear in mind there's also a lot of average players who just play for fun.

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post Sep 21 2006, 02:11 PM

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Its alright.I'm just discouraged.My purpose here is to learn and at the same time trying to contribute what i know here.So i don't see any point being joked around.Besides,its not the first remark.Anyway,if i've offended anyone i sincerely apologize.

What is GAS anyway? Wanna ask since long ago..
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post Sep 21 2006, 02:47 PM

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oH...understand.Got it.So next time i just spam.waakakak.

Anyway,any cure for this GAS cause i'm sure i'm terribly infected and itsin critical stage.
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post Sep 21 2006, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Sep 21 2006, 03:41 PM)
if you want to start on the loonies of theory learn intervals it'll make everything easier to understand.

but anyway, this site should answer all your theory questions.

http://www.musictheory.net/
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I'm trying to understand it.Go home and read more about it.Thanks!
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post Sep 22 2006, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 21 2006, 10:50 PM)
you need to go drink a few beers, or preferably a few bottles of jack daniels tongue.gif
you called yourself a beginner, so what im saying is no point learning diminished or whatever if you dunno the basics.
but then if you do know the basics, learning diminished chords isnt a problem.
so see where im getting at?
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Yes, i understand what ure saying.But the thing is i'm not sure that whether what i know is diminshed stuff anot.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 22 2006, 12:16 AM)
well, if he follows my advice and drinks all those beers and whisky...it'll be me robbing him of his guitar tongue.gif
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Dude, if u want my kapok can i gladly throw at u for free. tongue.gif

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