Theory/Lessons Learning how to solo
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 Sep 11 2006, 12:12 AM
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Sep 10 2006, 11:09 PM) those who requested for the ebook on scales, check ur emails! just got the ebook, thanks dude   so u guys organise a gathering soon? This post has been edited by asura_86: Sep 11 2006, 12:12 AM |
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Sep 11 2006, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(asura_86 @ Sep 8 2006, 02:54 PM) true, solos not only give that little extra time for the other musician to prepare for the next riff, but also give the song more definition and more punch...rather than just strum the same ol' patterns over and over again, which can be boring and tedious at times... same here dude...personally, i also find that solos are hard to pull off...why? cuz i don't know a single bit of theory, even the major scale i also don't know...so now trying to learn from scratch...(4 years of playing without any knowledge of theory sure suck...)  btw, scale is best learn with someone experienced zit? my friend tried to write it down on a paper but i just don't get what those figures mean anyway... i've been playing guitar for like more than 10 years, but never owned an electric and never tried to learn solo... i feel like lame! i can only play very simple solo (by copying ppl's play or learn through tab)... but no way i could pull my own solo. darn! i don't even understand what the heck are those scaling, etc (those guitarist terms). guess i need to re-learn from the scratch as well. but first, i need to get an electric guitar. by the way.... i need that eBook!!!! send it to my email (fakhrain at yahoo dot com)... thankies. |
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Sep 11 2006, 06:23 AM
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Sep 10 2006, 11:09 PM) those who requested for the ebook on scales, check ur emails! echo.. can u please send it to my email?davidlow7@yahoo.com thanks alot  |
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Sep 11 2006, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Sep 11 2006, 12:17 AM) same here dude... you dont need an eletric to solo.i've been playing guitar for like more than 10 years, but never owned an electric and never tried to learn solo... i feel like lame! i can only play very simple solo (by copying ppl's play or learn through tab)... but no way i could pull my own solo. darn! i don't even understand what the heck are those scaling, etc (those guitarist terms). guess i need to re-learn from the scratch as well. but first, i need to get an electric guitar. by the way.... i need that eBook!!!! send it to my email (fakhrain at yahoo dot com)... thankies. |
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Sep 11 2006, 11:52 AM
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my kapok is sooo boring and the bridge is kinda high.
i suppose n00bs need a guitar which has frets/neck that's easy to grip This post has been edited by soulfly: Sep 11 2006, 11:55 AM |
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Sep 11 2006, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Sep 11 2006, 11:52 AM) my kapok is sooo boring and the bridge is kinda high. hahahaha, nah you can always use the classical posision. (thumb behind the neck)....makes almost every guitar not a problem.i suppose n00bs need a guitar which has frets/neck that's easy to grip the only drawback of hollow body is the sound, not loud enough. tak ada kick..... |
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Sep 11 2006, 03:30 PM
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whoa! everyone requesting for ebook. for those of you having ebooks, please send some to me too!!!!
check ur emails im not sure if the scale ebook is good coz i havent gone through it. dont feel really pushed to go read it as i can already improv solo(although theres alot more room for improvements). |
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Sep 11 2006, 05:10 PM
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u can always start with the Am pentatonic.its the easiest of all.
i'm sure nobody can fully benefit from the escales book.these scales are not easy to play.nor master.tthose name like myxoridian are funny tho...better t stcik to pentatonics first.. to start ur own solo u need some feel and basic of the penta's first.get some licks and riffs to sget started.as time goes by the more u play u can do it. |
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Sep 11 2006, 06:02 PM
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modes are actually very very simple. its just the name that scares beginners off.
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Sep 11 2006, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Sep 11 2006, 03:30 PM) whoa! everyone requesting for ebook. for those of you having ebooks, please send some to me too!!!! thx millions dude!!! XDcheck ur emails im not sure if the scale ebook is good coz i havent gone through it. dont feel really pushed to go read it as i can already improv solo(although theres alot more room for improvements). but now got exams!!! this thursday zomg!!!! wish me luck!!!! |
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Sep 11 2006, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Sep 11 2006, 06:02 PM) modes are actually very very simple. its just the name that scares beginners off. bro me and u different standards la.i've tried new scales.i can't play anything outta it.like i said earlier,i'm a noob. heh |
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Sep 11 2006, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Sep 11 2006, 06:02 PM) modes are actually very very simple. its just the name that scares beginners off. i thought u still need to apply? ever really looked into mods, stil trying to perfect my penta soloing |
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Sep 11 2006, 08:41 PM
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im sure everyone who solos used modes at times. u may not realise it.
all the best sean392 darrencw, dont worry, ive been there and took me quite a while before i could actually solo. just keep working on it. have more confidence. i used to complain alot too such as i dont have a teacher, i have no skills, listening skills are weak, i take quite a while before being able to learn something, not enough gears, etc. I still do complain so i have to keep reminding myself not to and get back working on my chops. |
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Sep 11 2006, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Sep 11 2006, 08:41 PM) im sure everyone who solos used modes at times. u may not realise it. true, its partially a major scale if i remembered.all the best sean392 darrencw, dont worry, ive been there and took me quite a while before i could actually solo. just keep working on it. have more confidence. i used to complain alot too such as i dont have a teacher, i have no skills, listening skills are weak, i take quite a while before being able to learn something, not enough gears, etc. I still do complain so i have to keep reminding myself not to and get back working on my chops. about soloing, its a long road...but be patient and dont give up. i have been trying to come up with penta stuff for 1 yr, and i dont think i grasped how to squeeze emotion out of it |
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Sep 11 2006, 09:13 PM
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for those who are so used soloing in A natural minor(or C major), solo as usual just that u emphasise on E as the root note. walla!!! thats phrygian mode. not so hard right?
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Sep 12 2006, 01:24 AM
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No it's not that easy.
So when are you gonna use the Phrygian mode? What chords would work best on it? How are we gonna switch from E phrygian mode to... say... C fluently? How do... alright, I should stop scaring the beginners. |
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Sep 12 2006, 01:26 AM
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Sep 12 2006, 01:24 AM) No it's not that easy. lmao, aye aye.........best keep em' mods away till you know some stuff of basic scaling and soloing So when are you gonna use the Phrygian mode? What chords would work best on it? How are we gonna switch from E phrygian mode to... say... C fluently? How do... alright, I should stop scaring the beginners. |
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Sep 12 2006, 02:49 AM
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would be happy to get free scales book here too
 tytons at gmail dot com |
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Sep 12 2006, 07:36 AM
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check ur mail.
led zep, since u brought that part up, give a short lesson on it.  |
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Sep 12 2006, 09:01 AM
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Maybe it helps to transcribe other peoples solos and study it. Not learn it but study it. As in study the chord patterns being used and see what the pros use to play over it.
I recently studied an improvisation did by patitucci (some bassist) and he was playing G major over D which would make it mixolydian i think....or rather i'm quite sure. And study not only the scales but the jumps he makes around the scale, the first note that he hits the intervals he uses. Then try to play on top of his solo with a solo of your own. And see how it sounds. |
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