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post Sep 15 2006, 05:56 PM

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seems like some of you want more explanation on scales so u can solo. scales are just scales! learn the theory behind it. once u get it, theres no such lesson telling u which note to play and how. if thats the case every solo would sound the same and it'll end up like a maths equation that music. so, read the lessons they type above, understand how it works, play backing tracks out loud and pick up ur guitar and keep trying to solo.
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Sep 15 2006, 05:56 PM)
seems like some of you want more explanation on scales so u can solo. scales are just scales! learn the theory behind it. once u get it, theres no such lesson telling u which note to play and how. if thats the case every solo would sound the same and it'll end up like a maths equation that music. so, read the lessons they type above, understand how it works, play backing tracks out loud and pick up ur guitar and keep trying to solo.
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post Sep 15 2006, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(klifex @ Sep 15 2006, 11:52 AM)
er...he's really a beginner...sure dunno ...
how about starting from a some basic training like fingering training...
i wonderng whether you can use all your fingers to press on the fret board...
started from the E strings, position all your fingers at the 4 first freds, then pick one by one...continue your practice by moving up one string....

make sure the sound is clean~

this is the very very basic
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Sep 15 2006, 05:56 PM)
seems like some of you want more explanation on scales so u can solo. scales are just scales! learn the theory behind it. once u get it, theres no such lesson telling u which note to play and how. if thats the case every solo would sound the same and it'll end up like a maths equation that music. so, read the lessons they type above, understand how it works, play backing tracks out loud and pick up ur guitar and keep trying to solo.
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I think the whole point of scales is that if you understand it, music, solos and whatever is just a series of intervals.... mathematical even. Kowing your scales and rudiments expands the available notes that you can grab and run with. So in essence theory, opens the door to a greater range of notes that you go wild with in your solos.
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post Sep 16 2006, 09:45 AM

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well i mean, there are only what 12 notes? So "a wrong note is half a note away from the right one" - Victor Wooten-. Dont know what thats suppose to mean, but at times it makes sense.
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post Sep 16 2006, 11:57 AM

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its not even 'wrong' playing a note not in the scale. just dont hang on it too long(or itll sound so weird). i use chromatics too in some parts of my solos to add tension.
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QUOTE(Bassix @ Sep 16 2006, 09:45 AM)
well i mean, there are only what 12 notes? So "a wrong note is half a note away from the right one" - Victor Wooten-. Dont know what thats suppose to mean, but at times it makes sense.
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it`s a funny quote biggrin.gif
actually, it has a double-meaning :
1- even if you hit a wrong note, you can always bend it or slide it so it sounds "right". In a major scale, there are 7 correct notes (3 great ones + 4 extra "not so great" ones). So it is only the 5 other notes that might sound totally "out". Randomly choosing a note on the fretboard, you have more chances to hit an in-scale note than an out-scale one... laugh.gif

2- you won't damage a great solo by hitting a out-scale note. Therefore, it is not by only picking the in-scale notes that we will create a great solo. (yes, it is Logic) It is how we manage to arrange some notes to issue a melodic lead (the right notes, at the right time, following the right rythm, ...)
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wrong notes are not "wrong", we are not triving for perfect melody. fact is it sounds good use it. if we wanted music to be perfect we wont have songs like shine on you crazy diamond and art of life.

one song was created by gilmour accidently making a mistake and liking the sound.

the other yoshiki used wrong notes to create a feel
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It is the wrong notes that give music the human touch.

And anything besides the 12 notes are not wrong either. If that's the case, most Indian classical singers and musicians play the wrong stuff 99% of the time! laugh.gif It's how you set the notes in the right context that really matters.
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could anyone of you give me some guitar pro exercise for beginner?
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guitar pro exercises for beginners ? maybe you should start by guitar beginners exercises for beginners first laugh.gif

typical exercises are based on scales (runnning up and down), following different patterns and repeatitions. You can find a lot of them on the net... More advanced exercices can be found on the net too smile.gif so google up !


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post Sep 18 2006, 11:44 AM

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Of course, don't forget to warm up before practising......
I usually start off with a chromatic, covering every single note until the 12th fret.... rinse and repeat...


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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Sep 16 2006, 02:59 PM)
wrong notes are not "wrong", we are not triving for perfect melody. fact is it sounds good use it. if we wanted music to be perfect we wont have songs like shine on you crazy diamond and art of life.

one song was created by gilmour accidently making a mistake and liking the sound.

the other yoshiki used wrong notes to create a feel
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Yea, wrong notes are not "wrong" but they just don't fit into a riff or a melody. If I do hit a "wrong" note, i'll do like what Pix said, bend it or slide it so it sounds back to the "right" note. And in the process of bending and sliding to the "right" note, you might create small little riff of your own, something like adding pepper and salt to a nice mushroom soup .... they may be small. but it surely taste (or sound) good laugh.gif

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QUOTE(TheWhacker @ Sep 18 2006, 05:04 AM)
"If you made a mistake, make it with style"
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if you made a mistake but didn't make it in style at all, call it ..
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Sep 18 2006, 01:33 PM)
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I think Satch made a bet with Vai."If u could shred faster than me,i'll shave my head forever!"

I guess thats why he shaved his head...
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QUOTE(darrencw @ Sep 18 2006, 03:58 PM)
I think Satch made a bet with Vai."If u could shred faster than me,i'll shave my head forever!"

I guess thats why he shaved his head...
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if that was true, i wonder wat if vai lose? can't imagine vai bold... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(darrencw @ Sep 18 2006, 03:58 PM)
I think Satch made a bet with Vai."If u could shred faster than me,i'll shave my head forever!"

I guess thats why he shaved his head...
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hey buster, those are fighting words there... biggrin.gif Nah, I think the reason why both of them chopped their locks is that they couldn't get the right amount of frizzyness like their guitar hero Hendrix biggrin.gif

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