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post Sep 5 2021, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Sep 5 2021, 10:47 AM)
Only problem, no dividend earned from phsical gold holdings. As mention, part of asset diversification. Need other investments to offset dividends for this sleeping asset.
Just forum sharing as i enjoy gold stacking.
1. Pamp bars. Buy min 50gms, preferably 100gms, minimize % over spot
2. Rounds 1oz n Fractionals. Higher % compwred to bars
3. Lunar series 100gms n 1oz. Avoid at all cost (where possible). But i appreciate feng shui.
4. 24K jewellery approx 450 gms. Best way to walk thru airports w/o customs check
5. Numesmatic gold. Parts of my solid gold collection by famous late-TH monks. My fav pass time once retired n control this endemic. Shoot documentary on gold talisman.
There's still Quater dollar Liberty Head coins n other jewellery  gifted by parents, kept i deposit box.

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Nice collection you have there... may i know u get from which pamp gold bar dealer ?
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post Sep 5 2021, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Sep 5 2021, 10:47 AM)
Only problem, no dividend earned from phsical gold holdings. As mention, part of asset diversification. Need other investments to offset dividends for this sleeping asset.
Just forum sharing as i enjoy gold stacking.
1. Pamp bars. Buy min 50gms, preferably 100gms, minimize % over spot
2. Rounds 1oz n Fractionals. Higher % compwred to bars
3. Lunar series 100gms n 1oz. Avoid at all cost (where possible). But i appreciate feng shui.
4. 24K jewellery approx 450 gms. Best way to walk thru airports w/o customs check
5. Numesmatic gold. Parts of my solid gold collection by famous late-TH monks. My fav pass time once retired n control this endemic. Shoot documentary on gold talisman.
There's still Quater dollar Liberty Head coins n other jewellery  gifted by parents, kept i deposit box.

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I bet you bought all these when gold prices were low?
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post Sep 5 2021, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Sep 5 2021, 10:47 AM)
Only problem, no dividend earned from phsical gold holdings. As mention, part of asset diversification. Need other investments to offset dividends for this sleeping asset.
Just forum sharing as i enjoy gold stacking.
1. Pamp bars. Buy min 50gms, preferably 100gms, minimize % over spot
2. Rounds 1oz n Fractionals. Higher % compwred to bars
3. Lunar series 100gms n 1oz. Avoid at all cost (where possible). But i appreciate feng shui.
4. 24K jewellery approx 450 gms. Best way to walk thru airports w/o customs check
5. Numesmatic gold. Parts of my solid gold collection by famous late-TH monks. My fav pass time once retired n control this endemic. Shoot documentary on gold talisman.
There's still Quater dollar Liberty Head coins n other jewellery  gifted by parents, kept i deposit box.

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Where did you bought these with Canadian Mint?

Rounds 1oz n Fractionals. Higher % compwred to bars
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post Sep 5 2021, 11:16 PM

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can share more info on here? what service provider?
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The company behind this gold savings/investment platform is Quantum Metal Sdn Bhd. They supply gold to Bank Muamalat, Affin Bank, and also Alliance Bank.
Their gold products are Syariah compliant and are audited monthly by ISRA (International Syariah Research Academy) as sister company of Bank Negara Malaysia.

You can read up more from their website www.quantummetal.com

If you need more info, pls PM me. They have one interesting product with is called GAE (Gold Asset Enhancement) which is a gold leverage of 10x and NO margin call.
Unkerpanjang
post Sep 6 2021, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(frankzane @ Sep 5 2021, 10:28 PM)
I bet you bought all these when gold prices were low?
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I guess you r ard 40-42 yo. Allow me to correct your statement above. Price is always a relative measurement. If u r filthy rich, price is never a concern, E.g Jho Low... Splurging his ill gotten gains on over-priced material things n beautiful people.

Otherwise, I wud consider your comments as condescending. Buy because u anticipate the value of gold, or any other asset appreciating.

I have more trust on Germany inflation data, (as compared to USA,,) . As u can see, inflation spiking. Prices expected to inflate... Always compare prices against your spending power. Pray hard your housing loan interest doesn't go way Up!

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post Sep 6 2021, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Sep 5 2021, 10:47 AM)
Only problem, no dividend earned from phsical gold holdings. As mention, part of asset diversification. Need other investments to offset dividends for this sleeping asset.
Just forum sharing as i enjoy gold stacking.
1. Pamp bars. Buy min 50gms, preferably 100gms, minimize % over spot
2. Rounds 1oz n Fractionals. Higher % compwred to bars
3. Lunar series 100gms n 1oz. Avoid at all cost (where possible). But i appreciate feng shui.
4. 24K jewellery approx 450 gms. Best way to walk thru airports w/o customs check
5. Numesmatic gold. Parts of my solid gold collection by famous late-TH monks. My fav pass time once retired n control this endemic. Shoot documentary on gold talisman.
There's still Quater dollar Liberty Head coins n other jewellery  gifted by parents, kept i deposit box.

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Some of my gold numismatics collectables laugh.gif

1ozdragon
2007 kanga st sunset
2009 kanga at sunset
1 oz silver lunar set
transformers silver
Rolf harris
2009 1oz Ultra High relief double eagle NGC MS69
2010 1oz tiger gold coin
2008kanga at sunset
1oz opal treasures
Pig gold proof set
2008w american eagle
2009 BUFFALO NGC MS 70
2008-W American Gold 1/4 oz Eagle $10 Burnished
2002 Australia Gold Horse Coin Set
2009 BUFFALO NGC MS 70
2009 BUFFALO NGC MS 70
2010 1oz tiger gold coin
2009w buffalo PF PGCS70
2010 1oz tiger gold coin
3 oz Gold britannia
2010 Kangaroo at Sunset $25 Gold Proof Co
1/10 ozAustralia Solomon Shekel Judaica NR
1 OZ PROOF 1987 AMERICAN EAGLE
1 OZ PROOF 1987 AMERICAN EAGLE
1oz pig gold coin
2009 1oz Ultra High relief double eagle NGC MS70
1ozdragon gold coin
2009 1oz Ultra High relief double eagle PCGS MS70
dragon proof set
20 nos. 1/10 oz amer eagle gold
1 oz kruggerand gold
1 0z 2010 buffalo gold ms70
1 0z 1998 tiger lunar
2 nos 2009 britannia 1 oz gold
1987 panda gold proof set

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post Sep 6 2021, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Sep 6 2021, 07:58 AM)
I guess you r ard 40-42 yo. Allow me to correct your statement above. Price is always a relative measurement. If u r filthy rich, price is never a concern, E.g Jho Low... Splurging his ill gotten gains on  over-priced material things n beautiful people.

Otherwise, I wud consider your comments as condescending. Buy because u anticipate the value of gold, or any other asset appreciating.

I have more trust on Germany inflation data, (as compared to USA,,) . As u can see, inflation spiking. Prices expected to inflate... Always compare prices against your spending power. Pray hard your housing loan interest doesn't go way Up!

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Well said Unker. Physical gold is never for trade purpose, but for long term investment/hedge against inflation/pass down to next generation.

Over the course of 2 years, i have increase my portfolio of physical gold to 15% from last 10%, aggressively buying since early last year although started physical gold journey collection 10 years back. I think looking for lower spread is the key, been buying through dealer though not the mostly sought after bullion brand.

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 6 2021, 10:03 AM)
Unker shewing off?   tongue.gif
Some of my gold numismatics collectables   laugh.gif

1ozdragon
2007 kanga st sunset
2009 kanga at sunset
1 oz silver lunar set
transformers silver
Rolf harris
2009 1oz Ultra High relief double eagle NGC MS69
2010  1oz tiger gold coin
2008kanga at sunset
1oz opal treasures
Pig gold proof set
2008w american eagle
2009 BUFFALO NGC MS 70
2008-W American Gold 1/4 oz Eagle $10 Burnished
2002 Australia Gold Horse Coin Set
2009 BUFFALO NGC MS 70
2009 BUFFALO NGC MS 70
2010  1oz tiger gold coin
2009w buffalo PF PGCS70
2010  1oz tiger gold coin
3 oz Gold britannia
2010 Kangaroo at Sunset $25 Gold Proof Co
1/10 ozAustralia Solomon Shekel Judaica NR
1 OZ PROOF 1987 AMERICAN EAGLE
1 OZ PROOF 1987 AMERICAN EAGLE
1oz pig gold coin
2009 1oz Ultra High relief double eagle NGC MS70
1ozdragon gold coin
2009 1oz Ultra High relief double eagle PCGS MS70
dragon proof set
20 nos. 1/10 oz amer eagle gold
1 oz kruggerand gold
1 0z 2010 buffalo gold ms70
1 0z  1998  tiger lunar
2 nos 2009 britannia 1 oz gold
1987 panda gold proof set
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Haha, fun flexing only... See, I anticipate the big whales oso jump in to share muscle flexing. Got free time, u pls take some photos of Yr favourite items, lah!

Start with your high relief MS69 coin!!!!

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prophetjul
post Sep 6 2021, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Sep 6 2021, 12:02 PM)
Haha, fun flexing only... See, I anticipate the big whales oso jump in to share muscle flexing. Got free time, u pls take some photos of Yr favourite items, lah!

Start with your high relief MS69 coin!!!!
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post Sep 6 2021, 01:39 PM

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This one is quite rare. I dont have the picture with me presently.
It is the year2000 Australian Lunar Dragon proof set.

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Unkerpanjang
post Sep 6 2021, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 6 2021, 01:39 PM)
This one is quite rare. I dont have the picture with me presently.
It is the year2000 Australian Lunar Dragon proof set.
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Beauty!!! Syiok just stare at both!

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post Sep 7 2021, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Sep 6 2021, 07:58 AM)
I guess you r ard 40-42 yo. Allow me to correct your statement above. Price is always a relative measurement. If u r filthy rich, price is never a concern, E.g Jho Low... Splurging his ill gotten gains on  over-priced material things n beautiful people.

Otherwise, I wud consider your comments as condescending. Buy because u anticipate the value of gold, or any other asset appreciating.

I have more trust on Germany inflation data, (as compared to USA,,) . As u can see, inflation spiking. Prices expected to inflate... Always compare prices against your spending power. Pray hard your housing loan interest doesn't go way Up!

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What made you think I am 40-42 yo? biggrin.gif

Well, looks like in Gold Investment Corner, price is not an issue like UT, stock, etc. haha...


QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 6 2021, 10:03 AM)
Unker shewing off?  tongue.gif
Some of my gold numismatics collectables  laugh.gif

1ozdragon
2007 kanga st sunset
2009 kanga at sunset
1 oz silver lunar set
transformers silver
Rolf harris
2009 1oz Ultra High relief double eagle NGC MS69
2010  1oz tiger gold coin
2008kanga at sunset
1oz opal treasures
Pig gold proof set
2008w american eagle
2009 BUFFALO NGC MS 70
2008-W American Gold 1/4 oz Eagle $10 Burnished
2002 Australia Gold Horse Coin Set
2009 BUFFALO NGC MS 70
2009 BUFFALO NGC MS 70
2010  1oz tiger gold coin
2009w buffalo PF PGCS70
2010  1oz tiger gold coin
3 oz Gold britannia
2010 Kangaroo at Sunset $25 Gold Proof Co
1/10 ozAustralia Solomon Shekel Judaica NR
1 OZ PROOF 1987 AMERICAN EAGLE
1 OZ PROOF 1987 AMERICAN EAGLE
1oz pig gold coin
2009 1oz Ultra High relief double eagle NGC MS70
1ozdragon gold coin
2009 1oz Ultra High relief double eagle PCGS MS70
dragon proof set
20 nos. 1/10 oz amer eagle gold
1 oz kruggerand gold
1 0z 2010 buffalo gold ms70
1 0z  1998  tiger lunar
2 nos 2009 britannia 1 oz gold
1987 panda gold proof set
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Wow, I'm getting interested with this thread. Thanks for sharing. Never knew there are so many types of gold out there! I only know of Kijang, Maple.

QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Sep 6 2021, 10:58 AM)
Well said Unker. Physical gold is never for trade purpose, but for long term investment/hedge against inflation/pass down to next generation. 

Over the course of 2 years, i have increase my portfolio of physical gold to 15% from last 10%, aggressively buying since early last year although started physical gold journey collection 10 years back. I think looking for lower spread is the key, been buying through dealer though not the mostly sought after bullion brand.
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So if gold is not for trade purpose, how does it fits long term investment? Or rather hedge against inflation when we are not converting it into cash? hmm.gif

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post Sep 7 2021, 05:36 AM

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Wow, I'm getting interested with this thread. Thanks for sharing. Never knew there are so many types of gold out there! I only know of Kijang, Maple.
So if gold is not for trade purpose, how does it fits long term investment? Or rather hedge against inflation when we are not converting it into cash? hmm.gif
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Bro, we start back on the right foot. IMO....

If im just a regular Joe, I wud prioritize my savings into kwsp, sspn, asnb. These shud be my core foundations.
Anything more, i go UT, some stocks. Settle my housing loans.

Gold investment shud be max 10-15%, of your investment class. Gold is a sleeping investment, no dividend.

If i have $1M, i wud put all in kwsp/asnb, at least my family gets $40-60k annual dividends. During good times, asnb dividends approx 6%. Wah, asb, double digit.

If i have >$1M, you split into different assets. Depending on yr risk appetite, stocks vs kwsp/asnb/sspn n maybe medical insurance for wife+yourself, maybe multiple properties for rental$.

Then, if still got excess $, you start to worry abt counterparty risk. What if MY mismanaged? What if RM devalues badly, country becomes a failed state....you invest in gold, farm land, park money overseas, etc.

Price vs Value. Im into crypto. Its a new asset class without counterparty risk. Why whales buying bitcoin at usd$50k. Is the price cheap or store of value appreciating or speculation?
If today, Malaysia financial issue, bitcoin in usa will still be us$50k, but likely >>> rm210k. Its like gold, protecting the value of your depreciating fiat currency. So, its a hedge agains inflation.
By calling it a hedge, how to sell? Its for long term.....theres a chart by mike maloney on gold price vs asset. Before i forget, go youtube n watch Hidden Secrets Of Money, 8 episodes. Super awesome!!!

No point buy gold as priority, until after you settle how yr dividends to pay for food, etc due to job loss, retirement, etc. (Shhhh i tell u secretly, that unker Prophetjul, is a big whale) gold stacking as hobby.

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post Sep 7 2021, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(frankzane @ Sep 7 2021, 12:58 AM)
What made you think I am 40-42 yo? biggrin.gif

Well, looks like in Gold Investment Corner, price is not an issue like UT, stock, etc. haha...
Wow, I'm getting interested with this thread. Thanks for sharing. Never knew there are so many types of gold out there! I only know of Kijang, Maple.
So if gold is not for trade purpose, how does it fits long term investment? Or rather hedge against inflation when we are not converting it into cash? hmm.gif
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I personally view shiny yellow metal more as savings asset.
If I don't buy gold the cash might be spent on something spurious sweat.gif
Very lousy impulse control tongue.gif besides gold I also park money in real-estate.

Gold comes in different forms. Each with it's own advantages and disadvantages.

Some forms of gold like jewelry might be harder to sell or cost more per gram.
24k gold bullion is generally tax exempt worldwide.
Certain countries may tax 22k gold bullion (American Gold Eagles or Krugerrand are 22k)
Size big kilo bars are a pain to move quickly, too small 1/10oz or 1/20oz and premiums eat into your returns.
Recognition PAMP bars more recognized than Poh Kong Bunga Raya for example.
Nothing wrong with Poh Kong, just there's less point of friction during selling process.
The list goes on and on you get the idea.

Buying is easy, the difficulty is a viable exit strategy.

Gold is not for everybody, hopefully it fits your needs

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Sep 5 2021, 10:47 AM)
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Awesome stack thank you for sharing.
Hope to accumulate a stack like that someday thumbup.gif

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That's a sweet collection of proof coins.
I'm looking forward to Perth Mint Tiger biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Sep 7 2021, 02:43 PM)
Awesome stack thank you for sharing.
Hope to accumulate a stack like that someday  thumbup.gif
That's a sweet collection of proof coins.
I'm looking forward to Perth Mint Tiger  biggrin.gif

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I have these BU bullions, the 1998 and 2010 tigers. I am a tiger. laugh.gif

But the 2022 is 1 oz proof at Aud3545! ohmy.gif No more bullion collection.

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On the flip side, listen to YouTube Franklin ceo Andy Schectman. Straight shooter. Another smart guy, understand paper gold scam round table talk n implications on US petrodollar currency, stocks n bonds,... Recent event Saudi sign military agreement with Russia. China with Nigeria.

Time to own physical gold?


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Ox arrived today... Tiger is next ..

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Ox arrived today... Tiger is next ..

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Wish to know where do you buy these? Are sellers like Buy Silver Malaysia trust worthy? Maybank seem to have only Kijang
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Ox arrived today... Tiger is next ..

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You buying the 1 oz tiger gold proof? sweat.gif

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