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 ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG, ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M, AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL BERHAD V6

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lucifah
post Oct 31 2014, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 31 2014, 06:06 PM)
all point seems okay, but buying gold? rclxub.gif

gold is on down trend now, price won't go up anytime soon. also no pay dividend like ASx  nod.gif
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gold is not liquid enough as investment

plus, it's high risk - u won't know if the gold bar you have in your possession is really 99.999% pure gold or just 96% gold. i can't tell any difference at all


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post Oct 31 2014, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Oct 31 2014, 06:09 PM)
gold is not liquid enough as investment

plus, it's high risk - u won't know if the gold bar you have in your possession is really 99.999% pure gold or just 96% gold. i can't tell any difference at all
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agreed, but if GIA, should be not much problem.

as for "checking" gold purity, I think have some machine to test it. Not sure how much it cost hmm.gif
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post Oct 31 2014, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Oct 31 2014, 05:59 PM)
someone mentioned GST

so how does GST affect ASNB purchases / selling?

will we be charged GST om both transactions?

if we are charged input tax, how will we claim output tax?

if we sell our units, will we be able to claim for GST?
or is ASNB GST exempted?
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I saw a mention about GST on shares, on selling.

But when I went through the budget summary from the govt, no mention of that.

Hope no GST on shares and ASX.


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post Oct 31 2014, 06:35 PM

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What I know is that Fixed Price ASx is excepted from GST. Only those Variable ASx have GST hmm.gif
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post Oct 31 2014, 07:11 PM

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Walao. How they calculate o. Sc ad 5 ad. When this vtec kick in. Is it may? Hope not April...
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post Oct 31 2014, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Oct 31 2014, 05:59 PM)
someone mentioned GST

so how does GST affect ASNB purchases / selling?

will we be charged GST om both transactions?

if we are charged input tax, how will we claim output tax?

if we sell our units, will we be able to claim for GST?
or is ASNB GST exempted?
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SC is subject to 6% GST
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post Oct 31 2014, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 31 2014, 07:20 PM)
SC is subject to 6% GST
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Suppose RM1 billion trading volume per day at KLSE, 6% = RM60 million /day.

Over a year, 60*220 = RM13.2 billion pa GST extra revenue for the govt!

At the expense of those who are into shares.

If kena GST on selling a losing share, then it is really adding acid/salt to injury!

Maybe tax is only on profit (=capital gain tax?) I thought CGT is PKR's push and BN is not implementing that at the moment.

This post has been edited by plumberly: Oct 31 2014, 08:38 PM
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post Oct 31 2014, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 31 2014, 07:20 PM)
SC is subject to 6% GST
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only the SC has GST, am i right?

that means for RM 100k purchase, a 5% SC = RM 5,000

6% GST from RM 5,000 SC = RM 300

so total SC + GST = RM 5,300 ?




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post Oct 31 2014, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Oct 31 2014, 07:30 PM)
Suppose RM1 billion trading volume per day at KLSE, 6% = RM60 million /day.

Over a year, 60*220 = RM13.2 billion pa GST extra revenue for the govt!

At the expense of those who are into shares.

If kena GST on selling a losing share, then it is really adding acid/salt to injury!

Maybe tax is only on profit (=capital gain tax?) I thought CGT is PKR's push and BN is not implementing that at the moment.
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CGT was put aside by govt, saying that it may affect FDI.

we only have 1 kind of CGT at the moment, that is the RPGT.
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munkeyflo dear, can you please enlighten us on GST for ASNB transactions?
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post Oct 31 2014, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Oct 31 2014, 09:39 PM)
only the SC has GST, am i right?

that means for RM 100k purchase, a 5% SC = RM 5,000

6% GST from RM 5,000 SC = RM 300

so total SC + GST = RM 5,300 ?
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Looks correct like what wil-i-am said previously nod.gif

but I'm not sure when withdrawing our money. Tat one also kena GST? hmm.gif rclxub.gif

This post has been edited by nexona88: Oct 31 2014, 10:03 PM
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post Oct 31 2014, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Oct 31 2014, 09:39 PM)
only the SC has GST, am i right?

that means for RM 100k purchase, a 5% SC = RM 5,000

6% GST from RM 5,000 SC = RM 300

so total SC + GST = RM 5,300 ?
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Walao.... how cover if really like that.
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post Oct 31 2014, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Oct 31 2014, 07:30 PM)
Suppose RM1 billion trading volume per day at KLSE, 6% = RM60 million /day.

Over a year, 60*220 = RM13.2 billion pa GST extra revenue for the govt!

At the expense of those who are into shares.

If kena GST on selling a losing share, then it is really adding acid/salt to injury!

Maybe tax is only on profit (=capital gain tax?) I thought CGT is PKR's push and BN is not implementing that at the moment.
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6% GST based on Brokerage Charges (BC) of RM1 bil value
If BC is 0.42%, GST is RM1 bil x 0.42% x 6% = RM252k
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Oct 31 2014, 09:39 PM)
only the SC has GST, am i right?

that means for RM 100k purchase, a 5% SC = RM 5,000

6% GST from RM 5,000 SC = RM 300

so total SC + GST = RM 5,300 ?
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U r rite
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post Oct 31 2014, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 31 2014, 10:02 PM)
Looks correct like what wil-i-am said previously  nod.gif

but I'm not sure when withdrawing our money. Tat one also kena GST? hmm.gif  rclxub.gif
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There is no 6% GST as long as UT co dun impose any SC on withdrawal
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 31 2014, 10:59 PM)
There is no 6% GST as long as UT co dun impose any SC on withdrawal
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thanks for the info rclxms.gif

so the best choice is Fixed price ASx, NO GST tongue.gif


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post Nov 1 2014, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Oct 31 2014, 09:39 PM)
only the SC has GST, am i right?

that means for RM 100k purchase, a 5% SC = RM 5,000

6% GST from RM 5,000 SC = RM 300

so total SC + GST = RM 5,300 ?
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I see. Only on the SC.

Then RM 1 billion volume per day at KLSE = RM300*10000=RM3 million /day.

1 year = RM660 million GST tax revenue for the govt. Still a lot of money,
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Nov 1 2014, 08:00 AM)
I see. Only on the SC.

Then RM 1 billion volume per day at KLSE = RM300*10000=RM3 million /day.

1 year = RM660 million GST tax revenue for the govt.  Still a lot of money,
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Whhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. So expensive.
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Nov 1 2014, 08:14 AM)
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Whhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. So expensive.
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They need to get the money for BR1M, subsidies, BIG & small projects, you-know-what, pay increases, etc.

Don't mind this GST if they know how and will use the money PROPERLY for the country and citizens.

Sorry, off topic.
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Hi, wanna ask all sifu, is it possible to open a joint name account for amanah saham?

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