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ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG, ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M, AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL BERHAD V6
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nexona88
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Sep 27 2014, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(HJebat @ Sep 27 2014, 11:19 AM) Yes, I see your point. But I share the same belief with one wise apek that prefers company that sells consumer staples with strong brand names  As long as that company is able to sustain its economic moat, that wise apek prefers to hold on to it forever. I think Nestle is one example of that sort of company in Bolehland. I expect the profit/upside potential of this stock is more than that can be offered by ASx; even if it's only on paper. With ASx (especially the fixed-price fund), either market bloom or doom, the RM1 is always there. We wouldn't know the exact figure when the economy is good or bad because PNB controls the the price (maybe to enable the funds to have adequate amount of units to accommodate mass withdrawal during crash periods). As a result of that, depositors will receive average returns. I'd love to associate myself with Nestle for some pleasant & respectable return, and will still hold on to ASx for some moderate & acceptable income. Either way, I find it comfortable to invest and grow my money  you're not alone. a lot of people I know do shares trading (for more profit but with higher risk) & also invest in ASNB fund for their low risk stable income.. u get best of both worlds  Only problem now is lack of new units for the fixed price ASx fund This post has been edited by nexona88: Sep 27 2014, 01:59 PM
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HJebat
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Sep 27 2014, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 27 2014, 12:29 PM) The main core reason that why ASNB stop introducing fixed price fund. I come across that IF, all the funds under PNB is variable funds, will they perform better? Or worse? Or real excellent that providing > 7% pa. Because we know that they ALWAYS reserve some % to overcoming bad years. We may have a clue of the actual fixed-price funds' return rate if the PNB president keeps revealing the precise income distributions for unit holders. For this year, PNB has the capasity to distribute 8.4 sen for AS1M (but distributed 6.6 sen) & 9.3 sen for ASW (but distributed 6.6 sen). I can't remember/find the figure for ASM, maybe someone else can try to dig it out. If PNB is willing to disclose the exact amount to public on annual basis, then we can trace the real return rate & serve as a good indication versus other investment intruments. Thereupon, we will know ASx can perform & provide better or worse return rate than others.
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HJebat
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Sep 27 2014, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 27 2014, 01:54 PM) you're not alone. a lot of people I know do shares trading (for more profit but with higher risk) & also invest in ASNB fund for their low risk stable income.. u get best of both worlds  Only problem now is lack of new units for the fixed price ASx fund  Can share share your investment portfolio? Currently what stock or ASx fund are you holding?
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nexona88
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Sep 27 2014, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(HJebat @ Sep 27 2014, 10:52 PM) We may have a clue of the actual fixed-price funds' return rate if the PNB president keeps revealing the precise income distributions for unit holders. For this year, PNB has the capasity to distribute 8.4 sen for AS1M (but distributed 6.6 sen) & 9.3 sen for ASW (but distributed 6.6 sen). I can't remember/find the figure for ASM, maybe someone else can try to dig it out. If PNB is willing to disclose the exact amount to public on annual basis, then we can trace the real return rate & serve as a good indication versus other investment intruments. Thereupon, we will know ASx can perform & provide better or worse return rate than others. PNB can pay up to 8.8sen for ASM, but they pay 6.6sen only http://news.abnxcess.com/2014/03/asnb-decl...-asm-investors/ QUOTE(HJebat @ Sep 27 2014, 10:59 PM) Can share share your investment portfolio? Currently what stock or ASx fund are you holding? Have ASW2020, ASM & AS1M Share investment
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HJebat
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Sep 27 2014, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 27 2014, 11:10 PM) Ah, good job...so for this year tracking purposes : ASW - 9.3% ASM - 8.8% AS1M - 8.3% QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 27 2014, 11:10 PM) Have ASW2020, ASM & AS1M Share investment  Share investment  as in tarak ada or ...
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nexona88
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Sep 27 2014, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(HJebat @ Sep 27 2014, 11:22 PM) Share investment  as in tarak ada or ...  ikan bilis investor oni  so ASW2020 is the best ASx this year (actual income) ASW - 9.3% ASM - 8.8% AS1M - 8.3% This post has been edited by nexona88: Sep 27 2014, 11:30 PM
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wil-i-am
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Sep 28 2014, 07:42 AM
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AS1M is struggling to generate Revenue for FYE 9/14 Its Revenue increased by 4.4% to RM787.2 mil against its total Units which increased by 9.7% to 10.22 bil Xpect challenging Dividend next year as the base will increased by another 664.2 mil Units!
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nexona88
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Sep 28 2014, 02:22 PM
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This post has been edited by nexona88: Sep 28 2014, 10:43 PM
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HJebat
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Sep 29 2014, 08:44 AM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 27 2014, 11:27 PM) ikan bilis investor oni  so ASW2020 is the best ASx this year (actual income) ASW - 9.3% ASM - 8.8% AS1M - 8.3% Do you by any chance, have last year's or past years' actual income for the 3 fixed-price fund? PS: Why did you delete your post to will?
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wil-i-am
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Sep 29 2014, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(HJebat @ Sep 29 2014, 08:44 AM) Do you by any chance, have last year's or past years' actual income for the 3 fixed-price fund? PS: Why did you delete your post to will? U can obtain their past performance via ASNB website
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HJebat
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Sep 29 2014, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 29 2014, 09:55 AM) U can obtain their past performance via ASNB website Mana? Mana? Tarak ada wor... Only found the income distribution, not the actual income that can be distributed
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plumberly
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Sep 29 2014, 12:25 PM
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Sharing one article I read in today's The Star. Maybe the writer is one of our friends here? Ha.
AA When they reported x million profit for this year, is this year's profit really x-y million (with y million from last year's profit which was not distributed)? BB Or, y million being added to PNB's investments and x million profit is from ALL the funds including last year's y million undistributed money? CC some other hidden scheme? I hope it is BB so that the money is not sitting there doing nothing. Hope that the undistributed money has no hidden leaks (like UPSR?) and annual audits are in place to keep the leaks in place. Appreciate some with inside knowledge can shine some light on this subject. Thanks.
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cheahcw2003
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Sep 29 2014, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(HJebat @ Sep 27 2014, 11:22 PM) Ah, good job...so for this year tracking purposes : ASW - 9.3% ASM - 8.8% AS1M - 8.3% Share investment  as in tarak ada or ...  ASD - 11.5% (another fixed price fund which top the list). sources: http://ww3.utusan.com.my/utusan/Korporat/2...-660-sen-seunit
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candysiew
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Sep 29 2014, 03:53 PM
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Getting Started

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i can only get ASN3
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nexona88
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Sep 29 2014, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(HJebat @ Sep 29 2014, 08:44 AM) Do you by any chance, have last year's or past years' actual income for the 3 fixed-price fund? PS: Why did you delete your post to will? 2013 (actual income they can pay)ASW - 9 sen (6.7sen) LINKASM - 8.4 sen (6.5+0.3sen) LINKAS1M - 8 sen (6.7sen) LINKMy Report for Now This post has been edited by nexona88: Sep 29 2014, 04:55 PM
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nexona88
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Sep 29 2014, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 29 2014, 12:34 PM) ASD - 11.5% (another fixed price fund which top the list). sources: http://ww3.utusan.com.my/utusan/Korporat/2...-660-sen-seunitnon-bumi cannot invest in ASD, so it's not relevant  that's why HJebat list down 3 ASx Fixed price fund only
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wil-i-am
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Sep 29 2014, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(HJebat @ Sep 29 2014, 11:16 AM) Mana? Mana? Tarak ada wor... Only found the income distribution, not the actual income that can be distributed  Click the respective Fund's AR http://www.asnb.com.my/asw.htm
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cheahcw2003
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Sep 29 2014, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 29 2014, 04:58 PM) non-bumi cannot invest in ASD, so it's not relevant  that's why HJebat list down 3 ASx Fixed price fund only  This thread is not only open to Non-Bumi investors Sharing is caring
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nexona88
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Sep 29 2014, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 29 2014, 05:39 PM) This thread is not only open to Non-Bumi investors Sharing is caring okay, my bad
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wil-i-am
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Sep 29 2014, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE(candysiew @ Sep 29 2014, 03:53 PM) ASN3 is available anytime as long as u have $
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