Booked 1.6 premium silver moondust colour today! So.. Future driver reporting in!

This post has been edited by stevensteady: Sep 30 2014, 06:03 PM

COngratulation

want to share bits on punch cvt2 . the improvement same as suprima cvt3 . the fd ratio being change compare to flx cvt2 to match with new vvt engine powerband.

punch cvt operate diff compare to other cvt.

from stagnant,it rev higher than tc cvt due to clutch action.

city driving,to get most fc,rev below 2k rpm,circa 1600rpm to 1900 rpm,but 1900 rpm will be the most balance on power n fc. why,at that rpm range, cvt will try to change from low ratio to high ratio asap to get most efficient fc. 2100 to 2500 rpm is just enough to overtake in city driving.

eventhough the torque isnt that high, but cvt being tuned diff when 2k rpm n beyond,it holds longer on low ratio b4 switch to high ratio. this help on acceleration,but sacrificing a bit on fc,but not too much cuz u dont need to rev as high as in prev 4at.

the wrong thing previously done that consume too much fc,many tend to treat it like conv at, rev as high as 2500rpm from stagnant,then reduce the throttle when achieve desire speed.

its wrong then.eventhough but o meter feel slow,its not as slow as as one might think.

even at higher speed such as 100kmh,no need to rev too much, rev 500 rpm than prev rpm,just enough to overtake,unless u need all the torque,then 4k rpm is needed. wot is only needed when u have need for speed.

when hill climbing at genting road for example,drive in D is sufficient ennough,but if need more attach feeling,just switch to L,so that low ratio will be used all the way,n if course,even in normal at,u only used low ratio during hill climbing at genting,unless its cfe,L is rarely needed.


yup, cvt drooning its there when low ratio is used,but it become.lesser when it switch to high ratio. thats why rev below 2krpm,the drooning will only heard shortly cuz it will shift to high ratio asap.

hope this help future owner of iriz to understand how punch cvt operating. dont compare it with tc cvt,its not the same.

why clutch cvt,look at independent testing in thailand,lookup for preve cfe n lancer 2.0 gt real performance. during wot, turbo cfe doesnt have much advantage over 2.0 mivec coz both usibg cvt,n both rev at most optimal rpm for the engine. lancer 2.0 torque isnt that shy from cfe,n its lighter than preve,n it shows that wet clutch cvt still have an edge over tc cvt.

its only lack if feeling refinrment and the drooning cvt sound. even lighter dual vvti cvt altis miss the mark.

im not saying that its godly good,but nothing perfect n punch cvt isnt as weak as some might think. punch keep improving its product,in future,maybe the lack of refinement can be cater in.

Thanks for your sharing.

Thanks for sharing
I have 1 noob question, I want to take 1.3 cvt because of the FC, but sometimes i want to use to balik kampung (500km+-), So, it is possible for me to have 1.6 cvt FC same as 1.3 cvt in town driving,

This post has been edited by pAndaKillerZ: Oct 1 2014, 10:19 AM

it depend on ur right foot n of coz driving conditions n etc. avoid unneeded acceleration will help. just rev below 2k rpm when driving on hways,when the speed matching the rpm circa 80kmh ++,then gradually increase the speed so that the rpm n speedo rise evenly to desire speed(at legal speed). avoid the rpm to jump over too much(rpm rise sudden,then speed raise catching up with rpm).

goodthings about cvt,easier to control rpm of the engine compare to normal at. i cant guarantee u can get superb hybrid fc,but u can get bettet fc.

since its equip with instant fc,its easier for u the gauge the best driving condition to get the best fc.

if there is a steep road and u can see the rpm sudden increase,but u still maintain same throttle pressure,dont worry,the cvt change to lower ratio to help u get enough torque driving in steep road. it try to balance out gearing ratio n engine torque available. in notmal at,it call downshift,since cvt is variable,u wont feel too much kick,but it doesnt mean it is slow. n no need to press too much on throttle,just gradually maintaining the speed.

dont worry,u will learn that naturally. dont expect abrupt sudden acceleration feeling,it just feeling. due to its smoothness,thats why many feel iriz cvt is underpower compare to manual iriz,whereby it isnt.

thats why even some joutnalists favor olf nissan xtronic feeling than current one. it just feeling. thats why prefer at than cvt,fue to feeling. thats why some manufacturers using virtual step cvt to imitate the at feeling.

u will get used to it.

Waaaaah can buy 2 units 1.6 for the price of Pug. Buy 1 spare 1!

or 3 units of 1.3L manual

Wow, thanks a lot for the tips

Now im wondering, about the maintenance , will it be cheap to maintain than preve or just same

maintenance more or less the same as flx iafm+ minus hydraulic powersteering oil maintenance.

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I have a question though on CVT.
Since CVT was created to eliminate the gear steps from the MT or conventional AT, which in turn save some fuel but, the published result MT still win CVT's fc by far. Is there some sort of greater slip lost in CVT?

yep..friction lost...

manual gear direct drive the shaft....

while cvt ratio is based on 2 pulley variable diameter...which is connected by belt...hence the power lost

yup, as per said by mr pomen gtr, but compare to tc cvt,its better,but not by much cuz technology evolved. even driving manual can save fuel,but in wrong hand, in can be vice versa :-).
same as cvt :-).

Do we have idle stop with the CVT? Is it running on VT2 or VT3?

Anyone can share claimed fc figures for 1.3 and 1.6 manual only?

VT2 with different final drive ratio than the one on the Saga.

What idle stop?

A smart clutch disengage system similar like how you would put to free gear with manual when idle by pressing clutch, as opposed to conventional AT when you press brake, the gear is still engaged.

How's the performance of the CVT compared with the manual? Is the CVT accelerate faster than the manual?

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This post has been edited by alexei: Oct 3 2014, 12:11 AM

bro,better go for 1.6 if budget is not a constraint to you

i regret bought 1.3 gen2 vs 1.6 gen2

in a long run, 1.6 is better.

and not to mention, FC will be better