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soul_fly9900
post Sep 16 2014, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(swimfan @ Sep 16 2014, 01:20 PM)
So I'm curious about how you folks feel about the lootgame, what do you think about it?

After putting in 14+ hours in the postgame and getting a total of 3 legendary engrams, of which only 1 resulted in actual legendary gear, I feel like I'm not getting enough out of the game considering the time I've invested in it. Bungie needs to adjust some of the drop rate, or give a higher chance of legendary engrams turning into legendary gear.

The only reason I"m still playing it is because there's no other game that I'm interested in right now but once that release calendar heats up come Christmas, you'll be sure that I'm playing a different game by then. The current content in the game is too threadbare to hold my attention, and I suspect it'll be the same for others.
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QUOTE(madhatter2k @ Sep 16 2014, 01:37 PM)
I've been playing Diablo II for 10 years and only managed to secure <10 legendaries that fit my characters. Played WoW for 6 months till level cap and zero legendary although I'm an aggressive raiders. It's just bad luck, but I kept playing anyway.
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I agree with madhatter on this. Though I dont think many players are like us. To me legendaries should be like that, very very hard to get. Not to say that I dont curse as well when my loot drop sucks tongue.gif . But I kept playing anyway cause I love playing it.
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post Sep 16 2014, 02:30 PM

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anybody wana do the weekly strike?

playing now add me DWExiaUS

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post Sep 16 2014, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(swimfan @ Sep 16 2014, 02:08 PM)
My guess is that you'll be able to join the raid from level 24, if it follows the strike playlists that unlock once you reach two levels below the playlist level. I am at level 24 wearing rare gear only, with maxed out armour upgrades from doing bounties.
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why not play strike playlist or crucible? that way you can just purchase the item directly after you met the reputation and mark requirement

after all the legendary engram i get, it give me only 2 rocket launcher which wont help increase my level and thats when i decided to concentrate on collecting crucible and vanguard reputation and mark. then buy directly defensive gear from the armory

anyway, this is my suggestion only. everyone have their own way of play style and i respect that.

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post Sep 16 2014, 02:54 PM

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Lol frustrated that you can't get a good loot. This is how the game is, which requires massive grinding.
For sure never play MMORPG, Diablo, WoW and etc la ni..
Good weapons are suppose to be hard to get, why would it be easier?
Like that if everyone already got all the exotic gears by now, what's the point of playing it now?
It's designed that way, so that you will play more to get the best gear. It's like any other end game.

Good gear doesn't effect your game in crucible, people get it in anticipation for Iron Banner, which is the real deal with good loot.
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post Sep 16 2014, 03:05 PM

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Good things (loots) shall come to those who grind. Haha.
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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Sep 16 2014, 02:54 PM)
Lol frustrated that you can't get a good loot. This is how the game is, which requires massive grinding.
For sure never play MMORPG, Diablo, WoW and etc la ni..
Good weapons are suppose to be hard to get, why would it be easier?
Like that if everyone already got all the exotic gears by now, what's the point of playing it now?
It's designed that way, so that you will play more to get the best gear. It's like any other end game.

Good gear doesn't effect your game in crucible, people get it in anticipation for Iron Banner, which is the real deal with good loot.
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ahaks...
i agreed with you on this.
if it's easier to grind, then the fun is gone by then
i know its hard to get and thats how it supposed to be. it just the excitement when u saw the purple color. lol

and you're right about me never play MMORPG. hahaha
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post Sep 16 2014, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Sep 16 2014, 02:54 PM)
Lol frustrated that you can't get a good loot. This is how the game is, which requires massive grinding.
For sure never play MMORPG, Diablo, WoW and etc la ni..
Good weapons are suppose to be hard to get, why would it be easier?
Like that if everyone already got all the exotic gears by now, what's the point of playing it now?
It's designed that way, so that you will play more to get the best gear. It's like any other end game.

Good gear doesn't effect your game in crucible, people get it in anticipation for Iron Banner, which is the real deal with good loot.
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Yeah because this is the first (probably?) FPS that borrowed the endgame elements from MMORPGs, I'm interested to hear different perspectives on it. Both from people who play MMOs and people who don't.

I don't mind the exotic loot drop rate actually, seems fine to me that those remain super rare. I also think it's perfectly fine for people to express their frustration on the drop rate, I don't think that's been fully figured out yet in game design.

One of the difference between the endgame between Destiny and WoW, is that in WoW there are plenty of stuff to do other than just grinding for gear. SilverCrimz also makes a good point about the grinding feels aimless, because all it is right now is for higher numbers. Hopefully new content coming up in the next few months will surface this better, starting with the Raid today.

That said, anybody want to get a group together for the raid later?
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post Sep 16 2014, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(tripoint @ Sep 16 2014, 03:09 PM)
ahaks...
i agreed with you on this.
if it's easier to grind, then the fun is gone by then
i know its hard to get and thats how it supposed to be. it just the excitement when u saw the purple color. lol

and you're right about me never play MMORPG. hahaha
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True. Just a way of Bungie to tease us to get more loot lol.

QUOTE(swimfan @ Sep 16 2014, 03:48 PM)
Yeah because this is the first (probably?) FPS that borrowed the endgame elements from MMORPGs, I'm interested to hear different perspectives on it. Both from people who play MMOs and people who don't.

I don't mind the exotic loot drop rate actually, seems fine to me that those remain super rare. I also think it's perfectly fine for people to express their frustration on the drop rate, I don't think that's been fully figured out yet in game design.

One of the difference between the endgame between Destiny and WoW, is that in WoW there are plenty of stuff to do other than just grinding for gear. SilverCrimz also makes a good point about the grinding feels aimless, because all it is right now is for higher numbers. Hopefully new content coming up in the next few months will surface this better, starting with the Raid today.
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You pay monthly for WoW and they can add content without worrying about money.
Tell me what other shooters that has a story which has a lot of modes in a game. Plus must be awesome in co-op.
There is a lot of modes already. Crucible alone has 4 normal modes, plus a lot of other modes which is event only or weekly/monthly thing.
Plus Vanguard and Strike is pretty awesome as well for PvE. There is explorations, story and others as well..
Already with all those of things to do yet people complain about it. It's a shooter game for god sake.
Take Titanfall for an example, at the exact some price and you get so little modes and content yet not so many complain.

If grinding is aimless then you are already finished with the game, yet people still play it why?
Even the one who said it still plays it every single day tongue.gif
Like i've already mentioned, those loot are for Iron Banner, where all the weapons stats, armor stats counts.
Also it's for Strike and Raids as well. It's not easy to complete it if you use a common weapon, try it yourself.

It's a 10 year project for Bungie and the world is forever expanding they say. So just look forward for more.

This post has been edited by Rei7: Sep 16 2014, 04:22 PM
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post Sep 16 2014, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(Xenn @ Sep 16 2014, 04:34 PM)
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Nice...
im currently still looking for new auto rifle also
mine is currently green color rifle
of all the loot i get, never once i get auto rifle. doh.gif doh.gif
be it from crucible or explore. lol

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damn frustrated with the server for crucible..... 3 out of 5 match I sure disconnected from the game.and it happen when my team are leading and almost win.sometime when I got to much kills sweat.gif
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QUOTE(swimfan @ Sep 16 2014, 03:48 PM)
Yeah because this is the first (probably?) FPS that borrowed the endgame elements from MMORPGs
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You're forgetting borderlands. Thats a big one, if not THE big one when it comes to borrowing rpg elements for both looting and character progression. Thats a grind heavy game too, although its just raid bosses as opposed to all the options we have. I spent hundreds of hours on bl2 and imo its a better time in destiny.

You can grind engram/glimmer runs, patrols, strikes and even pvp with crucible. I haven't gotten a legendary yet myself and thats fine, granted I got an exotic weapon but thats it. The game is just into its second week smile.gif
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The raid is open now smile.gif. Enjoy guys
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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Sep 16 2014, 04:16 PM)
True. Just a way of Bungie to tease us to get more loot lol.
You pay monthly for WoW and they can add content without worrying about money.
Tell me what other shooters that has a story which has a lot of modes in a game. Plus must be awesome in co-op.
There is a lot of modes already. Crucible alone has 4 normal modes, plus a lot of other modes which is event only or weekly/monthly thing.
Plus Vanguard and Strike is pretty awesome as well for PvE. There is explorations, story and others as well..
Already with all those of things to do yet people complain about it. It's a shooter game for god sake.
Take Titanfall for an example, at the exact some price and you get so little modes and content yet not so many complain.

If grinding is aimless then you are already finished with the game, yet people still play it why?
Even the one who said it still plays it every single day  tongue.gif
Like i've already mentioned, those loot are for Iron Banner, where all the weapons stats, armor stats counts.
Also it's for Strike and Raids as well. It's not easy to complete it if you use a common weapon, try it yourself.

It's a 10 year project for Bungie and the world is forever expanding they say. So just look forward for more.
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You invited the comparison with WoW, but I agree that with WoW they can bankroll new content with the monthly fees. Superficially Destiny has a lot of modes (both PvE and PvP), what you actually do in them don't differ significantly.

There is no meaningful gameplay distinction between Story and Strike because they both involve going to a place, defend a point while your Ghost scans something, then defeat a bullet sponge boss, repeat ad naseum. Patrol is arguably worse, with the most meaningless MMO-type missions scattered around, which I'm sure you'll agree is not the most compelling content.

Unsurprisingly being a Bungie game, the shooting feels great. But the variety of guns is disappointing though, because while you get four primary weapon types, once you stick with one there's nothing big to differentiate a low-level auto rifle and a high level auto rifle. I wished it was something closer to Borderlands where you can get wildly different and interesting guns to play with.

PvP has decent modes in them, but I can't really comment since I'm not huge on them. Some of my friends prefer Titanfall though, so that comparison is neither here nor there I suppose for me.

I am certainly enjoying the game, even with the deficiencies with story and variety, and will continue playing it since nothing much else is out there. I've probably put in more than 24 hours in the game but that doesn't mean I can't take a step back and criticise it for its faults though.

There's a lot of unrealised potential to this game, and as you say I look forward for more. It's only been a week since release after all.

Edit: LFG Vault of Glass tongue.gif. It's unlocked on Venus now. Any dudes up for it? I wish there was an easier way to link up at the Tower, lack of chat window makes it a bit difficult. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(swimfan @ Sep 16 2014, 02:04 PM)
It's a bit difficult to compare but I'm guessing that Diablo legendaries are more akin to Exotic gear in Destiny (highest tier of rarity). That drop rate still sounds nuts though, I imagine you stuck with the game because the gameplay is engaging.

The problem with the low legendary gear drop rate in Destiny is that you're locked out of content if you're not a high enough level. I'm at level 24 right now and ostensibly cannot progress further until I get legendary armour. At this point, I'm locked out of the level 28 Weekly Nightfall Strike and am underleveled to do the level 26 raid at a reasonable difficulty.
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We are in the same boat.
Im stuck on lvl 24 with 58lights.
Every time always getting 13lights equipment.
I need 15lights equipments to 25 (60lights)
but no luck since yesterday.


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post Sep 16 2014, 06:32 PM

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So me, Durian, SilverCrimz and 3 others tried the Raid just now but we didn't manage to do it.
All go makan. Hopefully we can open it guys. Checking out in reddit to see if anyone manage to do it.
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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Sep 16 2014, 06:32 PM)
So me, Durian, SilverCrimz and 3 others tried the Raid just now but we didn't manage to do it.
All go makan. Hopefully we can open it guys. Checking out in reddit to see if anyone manage to do it.
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I think what we need is just more levels so we can actually do decent damage and not die in one/two hits shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Xenn @ Sep 16 2014, 06:39 PM)
I think what we need is just more levels so we can actually do decent damage and not die in one/two hits  shakehead.gif
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Wish it was that easy.. I need a few legendary items.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Sep 16 2014, 06:44 PM)
Wish it was that easy.. I need a few legendary items..  tongue.gif
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Will have to wait til Friday then, wait for the lead groups to figure out the mechanics first icon_idea.gif

By the way, weekly crucible/vanguard marks will reset after you have relogged, so if you have not maxed out your marks yet and you still want to, don't log out or turn off your ps4 before you max it.
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QUOTE(Xenn @ Sep 16 2014, 06:53 PM)
Will have to wait til Friday then, wait for the lead groups to figure out the mechanics first  icon_idea.gif
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Some already cleared the Raid. They say you need to clear the mobs when they return back tongue.gif
Gonna be hard if we don't level up. To at least level 26 I guess cry.gif

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