Oh, then do you consider this project is sg long or kajang perdana/TTDI location then??

Lol, good ah, mixed population and price raise up more than 50% and more than 70% occupancy rate woh.. Not bad right, for a "mixed" area?

As I say many times already, for me i don't think Semenyih is really that far, and if it is really that far, then Semenyih will be continue as ghost town until today, but the reality is there are more and more people move into Semenyih and the jam along Jalan Semenyih become more serious now.

This proves that not everyone is so "scare of distance" that panic about.. There are so many people staying in pelangi Semenyih 1 & 2, bandar Tasik Kesuma, Sunway Semenyih, taman-taman near kampung baru semenyih that most of them are working in KL and the vicinity woh.

Everyone have their own taste mah, you thought in KV only have people like to stay in shoe box that near to town center meh? There are sure got groups of people that like to stay in landed house with decent township features that a little further away from city center mah. By using about the same amount of money, they can justify themselves what kind of houses they want to stay mah.

You don't like doesn't mean everyone will follow you don't like too, no?

BBW, you think those group of people who want to stay in shoe box near to city center has choice meh?

By the way, are you discriminating Semenyih people are low income earner? You know how many people in Semenyih? You know a few people in Semenyih does it represents the whole residents in Semenyih? You even don't know me in person.

If TTDI groove Kajang so called is vacant, what do you think this project will not vacant later? You sure people buy this project definately is for own stay and no flippers?

hahaha, jade hill surrounded by smoke, and looks like heaven mah...

Good points...

It is so awkward purchaser can put "booking" when the project starts and only sign SPA 3 months before project completion, very weird system.

I presume the 10:90 system suppose to be a condition purchaser pay 10% when signing the SPA during the project launch, then wait 24 / 36 months for VP, before the remaining 90% is disseminated to the developer. What for signing SPA 3 months before completion, a lot of clauses in the SPA such as delivery period and LAD considered useless in this context.

By the way, also not sure so called this "booking" is transferable, if can and the project is good, then will have another type of flipping - "I am willing to let go my booking with some premium, pm me"...

So, that's mean you don't know the price of the property as it starts building (2 - 3 years ago), the price is only available during launching (recently), which is about 3 months before completion, right?

I think the developer is inexperience, their way of conducting 10:90 system will impose many problems to the purchasers later. This is not suppose the right way.

The right way of 10:90 system is - sign the SPA and pay 10% before the construction starts, after only completion, the buyers pay the remaining of 90%.

Sign SPA 3 months before completion looks to me is very confusing and problematic..

10:90 system is a way to protect the purchaser and not involved in the abandon project, not used to curb property flipping woh. As a matter of fact, for BTS system, developer is the "majority flipper".

This model no problem, but signing SPA 3 months before completion is very awkward. Why not just conduct the SPA signing after 100% completion? Treat it just like a subsale.

Problem that may occur: In the SPA, don't think the delivery period is 3 months, it should be standard 24/36 months. So even though developer say expected is 3 months, they can take till 6 months for VP instead, due to some "unforeseeing circumstances", LAD can't protect them as the 24 months / 36 months from the date of SPA (so call the 3 months) and not the construction date. Purchaser suffer and not protected.

BTS mah, people buy for own stay and cannot flip mah, no? If this project sell 50%, then this 50% buyers sure will use it for own stay mah, no? You explicitly said that woh...

BBW, is it you want to tell people that developer can serve a good flipper, better than layman. So layman flip is a sin, developer flip is good deed, coz they care the risk. Is this kind of perception you want to tell?

If you think flippers can hold on then why not the developer? They suppose to be cash rich and provide the BTS houses right?

All these developers should have conduct studies prior to the development and factoring the risk in it. If they project the economy is downturn or supply is more than demand or no confident on the sales, will they build BTS houses?

Do you think BTS developers really care about the occupancy after VP? If the marketing research team projected there will be good sales in future, they also will continue building the house woh, even the occupancy rate is low loh.

If you think the current flippers don't care bank valuation and holding the property for flipping, means they have holding power woh. They also can buy this BTS property and flip it 2-3 years later mah, anything wrong with that?

Lol... OUG parklane is not BTS mah, if BTS then the price now by the developer maybe 500k already loh, no?

buy this project not for flipping/investing and not for own stay, buy for fun ah? Since this project is unlikely to be flipped as claimed, those purchase normally for own stay mah, no?

Wah, this one is definitely no integrity answer loh... so developer can choose develop a project inside rubbish dump site huh? Got flippers mah, why worry?

BBW, this is not right loh, if a project have large number of units can't sold off, does it matter whether it is BTS or STB? Both also can't flip lah, either BTS or STB got any relevance meh? You should understand this simple fact mah, not difficult loh, no?

Nah, again you try to compare a STB project with BTS project, can compare and become the analogy meh? If OUG Parklane is a BTS project, you think they will sell 420k now meh? Must be factor in all the risk into sale price lah, finally is the buyer that need to fork out the large sum money to pay mah.

And hor, you miss one important fact. If a flipper have holding power, why can't he/she hold the BTS house for few years before flipping it? Why must flip during VP leh? You already say mah, they don't care even can't get bank evaluation mah, got any difference meh?

It's okay to support build and sell, but don't be so naive to say "build and sell" can curb the flipping activities.

This post has been edited by samkps: Sep 11 2014, 08:49 PM

Pity BBW if it is first case.

More pity to BBW if second case coz need to use dirty tricks like this...

1.) Stopped? For highrise how to stop? Build third floor and skip second floor ah? For DSL, in one row build 1st house, skip 10 houses, then build another two houses, then skip another 8 houses ah?

Yamah, that's why I say their marketing research team will do analysis in-depth before launching BTS project. Don't you think the statement "no worry, got flippers mah" is slapping yourself?

2.) What is stopping them? Easy, no one stopping them, since they have so many units unsold, what for increase price again, the 500k I said is the initial launching price, you won't have unit selling 300k at the first place mah.

3.) Nah, this again is the same thing, you already agree just now mah, if they are many units unsold, either BTS or STB also no relevance woh, both also cannot flip, why you take this kind of project as example? You are contradicting yourself, right? You should take those project that can sell very fast during launching, and tell us the different if this kind of project is BTS or STB mah. Can BTS really curb the flipping activity for this fast selling project?

You already lose your dignity here, don't lose mentality also, okay?

This post has been edited by samkps: Sep 11 2014, 09:25 PM

I don't think you really understand who are the flippers, perhaps you should study more on what's so called flipper...

1.) Hey, we are talking whether BTS can curb flipping activity or not, why you show me abandon project? You thought those projects you mention is because nobody want to buy so the developer abandon the project? You thought all this abandon projects no flippers as well? Or these projects abandon because no flippers? Come on lah, I never say BTS cannot protect purchaser on abandon project, just BTS can help to curb the flipping or not? Why you always pull in some other thing that not related to this topic one? As a matter of fact, all those project also being abandon when finish 50 - 70 % woh, so is that mean already build 80% is safe?

Come on, what I say is even no project can free from flippers, developer also need to do in-depth analysis on the project mah, be it BTS or STB, where can say no need worry, got flipper mah...

2.) Hello, are you crazy? If a project can't sell most of the units, you think all the flippers will mong seng seng put 200k profit margin for this kind of project ah? If you were the flippers, will you so naive and ignorant? If there is such crazy flippers, better dun put 200k profit lah, put 2 million profit loh. Only those hot selling project flipper will push up the sale price lah my fren, why you always use wrong example one?

3.) Haiz, again and again, I ask you what's the difference between BTS and STB for hot selling project, you keep on telling me fail project... Let me emphasize again, does BTS houses shall curb the flipping activity for hot selling successful project? Answer me this mah, why keep on tell me fail project, fail project either individuals flipper (STB) or developer (BTS) also die lah, no difference one.. You show this kind of project is useless woh...

Haiyo, if really can sell off, why flippers will burn the deposits? No logic mah...

Lol, so you think majority of the flippers are bad ccris, bankruptcy but still to apply loan, and finally got it ah? Come on lah BBW, how many percent of people will get the loan rejected after the loan agreement signed? How many percents? 50% ah??

By the way, for this project, if you can get the bank reject letter offer at the first place, you can get the refund of your deposit mah, why it will burns? Please answer question mah, why you always response something not related to question one?

Movie after 1 hour the shows start, no value already. House 3 months after launching, still have value woh, why you always use wrong example for comparison one?

This post has been edited by samkps: Sep 12 2014, 08:43 AM