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samkps
post Sep 9 2014, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 9 2014, 01:46 PM)
please define mix... in pelangi semenyih areas...

is this the moving force that will push the flip properties up? the another reason for sg long to prosper is mainly because of Chinese majority areas, comes with shops and etc...

how were the shops doing in Pelangi semenyih? any chance of eating Chinese food? you are their peers isn't?
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Why not? Semenyih no chinese meh? Pelangi Semenyih got chinese restaurant selling chup fun plus oink oink woh, apa problem? doh.gif doh.gif

You discriminating the Malaysian people into groups? shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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post Sep 9 2014, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 9 2014, 01:48 PM)
history proeprty developments has shown this effect has not gone far with proeprty price.. the prime of your peers areas are shah alam, putrajaya...

this areas is mixed... just wondering the percentage...

on Semenyih town.. that is still far ahead... unless going through the jams or taking the imaginary EM bypass and go semenyih town just for it...
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BBW, come to tesco Semenyih weekend, sit on the main entrance, count how many malay, chinese, indian go shopping in tesco..

Then only you tell me what's the percentage of mix, okay? doh.gif doh.gif

As I said, Pelangi Semenyih shop got chinese restaurant sell chup fun with oink oink also, what problem you have? doh.gif doh.gif

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post Sep 9 2014, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 9 2014, 01:52 PM)
did I say NONE? you are the one saying so... I also can say Mahkota Cheras is a mix area... happy or not?

Semenyih areas will never be able to have that much of shop open like Mahkota areas... but if you say vacant shop, that is for sure more than Mahkota cheras..

seems this project are catering your peers...

the policies such as mosque, foods, stalls, and etc.. please go and quote mantin areas, they are Negeri sembilan areas...
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lol... BBW, as I said come to Semenyih Tesco during weekend, and start counting how many chinese, malay, indian come shopping, okay?

Semenyih is currently developing, I will see how it will goes later, so call "Semenyih areas will never be able to have that much of shop open like Mahkota areas"


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post Sep 9 2014, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 9 2014, 01:55 PM)
yes agree...

beside kajang perdana majority are samkps peers... that goodview heights is yet to be know.. remember the entry price is 728k above... i am anticipating your next question on this price issue..

be waiting ok.. if you really think in such a distance away from KL and with non Chinese majority areas really make you feel good... keep on

we can actually make area analysis of majority of samkps peers and their price..

shall we start with puncak saujana and taman rakan?

PS; sorry to others, purely business sense in property.. does not mean not than that...
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BBW, who is my peers, tell me? You make assumption even dunno who I am, right? doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

Kajang many places also mix races, so Kajang won't develop as well, right?
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post Sep 9 2014, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 9 2014, 03:13 PM)
saw that.. cheap land selling 400k plus sure got ppl and water fish buy hoping to flip.. that is also one of the reason they dont launch it at at 600k one shot or 700k one shot..

suit your self to think Semenyih project are for chinese majority areas... try believing along this line, it keeps your dream on..

as for fellow appreciative man, it an accepted fact that certain populous area comes with a ceiling price... in property..

see samkps after seeing this straight offline.. di
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Lol...BBW, I offline is becoz I have work to do, not because after seeing your statement lah... brows.gif brows.gif
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post Sep 9 2014, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 9 2014, 02:00 PM)
ya man, but the sub sales price quoted by your SA  does not seems to be a developing township...

look at bangi avenue... look at their DSL prices, look at Zenia park and their prices...

look at Bandar pemaisuri Cheras KL, compare their price with adjacent  towns

honestly, I am serious about this issue.. one of the reason of TTDI Kajang vacant.. very obvious..
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hahaha, if TTDI is vacant, then how you think this project will be sucessful.

Technically, TTDI groove is nearer to KL compare to this project woh... brows.gif brows.gif
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post Sep 9 2014, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 9 2014, 02:18 PM)
It is pretty obvious sampks is not of the peers of a same kind as the majority of pelangi semenyih and etc...

there are reason for property to boom or able to be package and sell out at certain flipp price... take a look and research you will know...

is KTJ going to tolorate with these and the policy implemented therein? last time SP setia was my peers, now it is TKJ highest and respectable ex CJ , does he has any problem demarcating any empty lands for religious purposes? does the states can impose restrictions like that done in Bangi?

you gotta pull more of my peers in to make Semenyih happen and shops opening, other wise surely there are banks hmm ...

one of the very bad conditions... already tainted with infamous distance to southeren region (ulu place) plus this factor..

Goodview heights are priced 728k above...  anticipating your next question
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BBW, you are taking one are out of whole district? So, from your perception, only sungai chua in Kajang will develop coz got more chinese, other area in Kajang will slow down and fade off?

Anticipating next question? what question? hmm.gif
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post Sep 9 2014, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 9 2014, 03:13 PM)
saw that.. cheap land selling 400k plus sure got ppl and water fish buy hoping to flip.. that is also one of the reason they dont launch it at at 600k one shot or 700k one shot..

suit your self to think Semenyih project are for chinese majority areas... try believing along this line, it keeps your dream on..

as for fellow appreciative man, it an accepted fact that certain populous area comes with a ceiling price... in property..

see samkps after seeing this straight offline.. di
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BBW, I dunno how you define waterfish in this context, and based on what rationale developed area must be chinese majority area..

Subang is chinese majority area? Bukit Jalil is chinese majority area? Sentul is chinese majority area? Seri Kembangan is chinese majority area?

Your thinking mix area will not develop is a very wrong perception and very misleading woh..




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post Sep 9 2014, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 9 2014, 04:30 PM)
i never say developments will be not be happening in non Chinese majority areas, you understand what I am trying to say...

it is very obvious and clear most majority peers areas had bad history and example of property price shooting up to the one you expected... the one that SA quoted..

areas like Shah Alam, Puncak Saujana, Bangi, Jendram, Sepang, and etc are self explanatory of the property price appreciation... as an experience investors one is bound to know these facts..

Semenyih projects is most southern project in KV , tainted now with peers effect... you know most pelangi residents/folks are just opposite SEH & EM far inside... really hard to stretch a balance to pull Chinese to those areas... Tasik Kesuma too is made of peers...

with this, you know where the price is going... flipping is completely wiped out from the question, even with the presence of the bypass... dont Seri Pajam has one too.. big deal... so what is their population there again?
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Is there any similarity between shah alam, puncak saujana to Semenyih meh?

Look at Saujana putra and saujana impian, is that area chinese majority? Even Standard charted bank also got a branch there. The property price around saujana impian and saujana putra also boom up alot loh.

Anything wrong with mix area that cause that property in this area will be much lower than the majority chinese area? doh.gif doh.gif

Semenyih is at the southern, but is fairly near to Kajang which is currenly have rapid development now. As a matter of fact, most of the development now is focus on the southern part woh, is it all southern development is fated to fail and all projects must developed within 10km from KLCC only then can only survive?

There are so many examples have proved your perception is wrong..
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post Sep 9 2014, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 9 2014, 04:58 PM)
how many times i need to repeat... i did not say it will not develop.. just that not as good as those Chinese areas.. you cant take the mature areas especially heart of KL to compare.. those are middle income and mix of poor.. Semenyih is an outskirt project with self evidence and fact of high majority of peers in surrounding areas save for semenyih town and sunway semenyih.. places like Tasik Kesuma, Pelangi semenyih 1& 2, Seri Pajam and etc.. are majority polulas... even you say the price were pull up by these high developers projects, they need to attract my peers to come in to make the shops running and going..

take a look at Kota warisan sepang... happening or not? house occupied or not? Bandar baru salak tinggi? Jendram? look at Dengkil.. mix area..  just take 5 to 10 kilo meter away from Sepang, i.e Nilai a different world together why??

and  I think you understand where I am heading to ...
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So, from your perception, chinese majority area, price increase 100%, mix area, price increase 50%, right?

Now tell me whether saujana putra and saujana impian is chinese majority area or mix area? How's their occupancy and property appreciation? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Sep 9 2014, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 9 2014, 05:01 PM)
no to say I am die hard fans for SHL... they are developing 180acre.. consider small too, yes if compare to SP and Mah sing and UM land... so far all of them trying to use cheap land and convert to large profits.. SP setia-semenyih
eco world too... Mah sing rawang & bangi / friendly and southly KL..
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Are you sure SHL not using cheap land to make big profits? How much they bought this land? Any data? brows.gif brows.gif
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post Sep 9 2014, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 9 2014, 05:50 PM)
tell us.. don't beat around the bush... many time i said already, another speculation of your own... i cant pint point the percentage as your crystal ball did.. i upgrade first..

generally, this is an accepted
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BBW, I am not beat around the bush. Those figure just for illustrative (not real one lah) to show that's your perception, chinese majority area will have better appreciation while mix area shall have less capital appreciation mah, no?

On this basis, I am asking you about the Saujana putra and Saujana Impian area, is this chinese majority area and how's the property appreciation in this area? brows.gif brows.gif
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post Sep 9 2014, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Sep 9 2014, 10:27 PM)
Correct, the BTS under schedule I and J is the 10%/90% model.  I share the same view that forced full implementation of BTS, be it 10/90 or the "real" BTS model by 2015 is rather impossible.  But some (very small number) of developers do practice BTS and from buyers point of view this is sth positive to eliminate the risk of property overhang.
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As I say many times, developer won't do rugi business...

Be it BTS or BnS, they will factored in the cost for risk, inflation, cost of cash flow leverage, etc..

While purchaser enjoy the "buy as it is" feature, be prepared to fork out more cash money for the entry.

Developer will have the absolute say on the entry price and bubble risk is less, as these developers shall have strong holding power even though economy slightly turn down.

Ultimately, number of property projects slow down, as developer can't spare too much cash for too many projects at the same time. Requirement push the property price continue to hike, as supply is less than demand...

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post Sep 10 2014, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 10 2014, 09:56 AM)
of course we know... but buying flipped propertiesa re the same too, most of the time flipp price are higher.. and cannot get valuation.. if project like your southern one... Malays manyak... how to pull ppl to stay? the high price?
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BBW, if a project have 30% are genuine buyer for own stay, would this fair for them? Why these 30% of people need to fork out more money (being penalized) becoz of the flippers?

You always say Semenyih Malays manyak, but I ask you one question so many times you also try to skip. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
Quote what you said before - "don't hit around the bushes" tongue.gif tongue.gif

How is the population distribution in prima saujana and Saujana Impian? How's the property appreciation in this area? brows.gif brows.gif

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post Sep 10 2014, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(be7a @ Sep 10 2014, 09:48 AM)
for 10%:90%, you pay 10% on booking, the property is considered SOLD, however the catch is that you have not BOUGHT the property, as it does not belong to you yet. Therefore you cannot sell the unit before completion (flip).

What i'm not sure is the remaining 90%. i.e if you sign the S&P when property is almost completed, you have 3 months after S&P for the remaining 90% completion, therefore you need a loan on the property. question is, what if the property is delayed and you cannot take your keys in the 3 months after signing S&P? do you still have to settle the 90%?
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If the developer can't complete on time and produce the CF for VP, the bank won't discharge the 90% to the developer, and LAD shall be imposed.

That's the protection for buyers under the BTS or BnS scheme.
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post Sep 10 2014, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(be7a @ Sep 10 2014, 01:38 PM)
sure
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After the SPA signed, the names can be simply changed during the construction period? As I know, they are some developers don't allow it. Even the names for booking also can't change, only can add names.




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post Sep 10 2014, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(be7a @ Sep 10 2014, 03:22 PM)
correct. however under 10:90, the SPA is only signed near to property completion. Which means even if you place the booking 2 years before completion, your SPA is only signed 2-3 months before completion, which means you cannot flip the property before it is completed, as the property is technically not yours yet. you have only placed a booking on it.
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Are you sure the SPA signing only 2 - 3 months before the completion? hmm.gif hmm.gif

I presume the buyer should pay 10% during the SPA signing and then wait within 24 - 36 months until project completion?

Perhaps can read about the 10:90 system here.

http://www.iproperty.com.my/news/668/what-...build-then-sell

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post Sep 11 2014, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(be7a @ Sep 10 2014, 04:49 PM)
depends on developer. the one i'm dealing now only sign spa during launch which is done when property is already 80+% completed.
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I think this is a vague area.

Do you happen to pay any deposit when the construction starts and do you aware the sale price when construction just started? hmm.gif hmm.gif




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post Sep 11 2014, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Sep 11 2014, 12:44 AM)
BearBearWong.

sp setia is rinching

eco majestic is beranang.

which is further from semenyih town. rclxm9.gif
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Lol... joker makes joke again...

Analogue example, country garden is kampung sri tanjung and jade hill is balakong..... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Sep 11 2014, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Sep 11 2014, 12:30 AM)
I went this afternoon. The location is much much better compare rinching ( sp setia) or beranang ( ecomajestic_)
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yeah yeah, much better than kampung sri tanjung (country garden) as well... whistling.gif whistling.gif

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