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 Built & sell is here, Goodview heights @ south sg Long

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post Sep 6 2014, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 6 2014, 09:26 AM)
buying flipped properties same too.. inflated 200k .. cant get valuation.. any difference? nvm, we still prefer BTS even it is a rich pl game as claimed by you..
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BBW, you think flippers can't buy BTS property?? shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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post Sep 6 2014, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 6 2014, 09:57 PM)
that is provided developers sold all units out one shot... if developers still hold units.. how you going to flip?

but 3 months before VP..

since you said it is a good news for flippers, shall we start all BTS? since it works better for flippers right?
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BBW, what make you think the developers will still holding the units if they can sell it? Flipping themselves? shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

Eg: Developer introduce 300 BTS houses, let say 300 flippers buy the houses by paying the first 10%, then shaking legs to wait the developer to complete the houses 2 years later, and perhaps only 2-3 months before VP, the flippers will seek the appropriate loan.

After getting the loan, then put up a price tag so called 200k extra for the subsale. Isn't this even worse than DIBS scheme on promoting flipping? doh.gif doh.gif




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post Sep 6 2014, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 6 2014, 10:00 PM)
no one can beat company analysis... that price stay there.. but the flippers research with their 200k expected profit may not work in the developers model.. get it?
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Developer come in to Semenyih is because becoz there are still plenty lands available with reasonable price. Furthermore, some of them building infra to reduce the time travel from Semenyih to city center. How this relates to flipping activity?
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post Sep 6 2014, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 6 2014, 10:01 PM)
dunno.. maybe SP setia can start BTS?
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BTS seem pro more for buyer/investor/flipper, what do you think developer keen to do that? Any incentive if they do so? hmm.gif hmm.gif

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post Sep 7 2014, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Sep 7 2014, 12:30 AM)
Like that can walk to klcc lor.....save petrol n parking too
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That's why I said no money then need tolerate with the toll, jam and petrol loh... laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Sep 7 2014, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 7 2014, 11:01 AM)
honestly, i am not good in investment.. this launch is selling 723k.. well EM selling 600k plus.. own stay version are more possible.. flip maybe another 5 years to 10 years fetch 1 million maybe...

SEH owners... better mark your sub sales price below the mark 750k, confirm no market if t\you try to be funny selling more than that..

sumore 20X65, here 22x75 & 22 x80...
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Lol... later here 723k sold out how? laugh.gif laugh.gif less than 200 acres woh, how many houses will be built? brows.gif brows.gif

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post Sep 7 2014, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 7 2014, 10:32 AM)
i never see admin also can troll... I didnt say it Sin heap lee says it...

enough of all this BS.. i am going to see this project.. one ting for sure Semenyih project sure bungkus
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Lol... you always say semenyih project bungkus, but Pelangi Semenyih 1 and Semenyih 2 has more 80% occupancy rate... perception vs fact, why so?

Is it you also adopting the technique condamn gao gao about Semenyih property then senyap senyap buy a service apartment here, as like that big SKL? tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Sep 7 2014, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 7 2014, 05:57 AM)
developers research package everything= 403k
flippers upon vp = trying to sell 750k above, is this included in their market research?

likewise with BTS, in 2014 they start building, 3 months before vp i.e by 2016 can sell 750k?

if that is so, BTS will favor developers and flippers more.. developers get to sell at higher price, they can flip it themselves... why wanna let flippers profit the 300k without doing anything? they bare the bigger risk like completing, constructing the unit..

of course the game is not like that, new launches now days also cant finish selling.. even with freebies discounts and etc..
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Lol, BBW seems like do know about the importance of cash flow. If a developer have cash 100 million, they may need to put all this 100 million in one project if it is BTS project. But if they have progressive payment from the buyers, they can vest this 100 million into 3-4 similar projects, no? Is this really pro the developer?

You thought developer will make rugi business? They already factor in the "risk" of BTS concept into the selling price lah.

If they use the current market price, perhaps they will launch it at around 600k, but because of the "BTS" concept, then they jack up the price to 723k loh, no?

Home buyer instead paying 60k as dp, now they need to pay 73k as downpayment instead, good? Maybe good, coz they can move in almost immediately after settling the 90%. However, because of this, they may need to pay the future price as well.

However, this would not definitely curb the flipping activity, as who said flipping cannot be done on the "subsale" project?

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post Sep 7 2014, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 7 2014, 12:32 PM)
if developers do not have enough cash flow, flippers has better cash flow meh?
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BBW, not developer don't have enough cash flow, is how they manipulate the cash flow to get maximum profit.

Putting 100 million in one project hardly to generate the maximum yield, but if 100 million plus the progressive payments from the purchaser will enable to develop 3-4 similar projects that can maximize the profit, no?


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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 7 2014, 10:36 PM)
yup maybe this is the only developer who is stupid and do not need cash rollover.. horr..
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BBW, as I say again, developer won't do rugi business, they already factor in the future price into current sale price by implementing such BTS system mah...

First phase of goodview will be VP by next year, about the same time as SEH I presume..

First phase of 22 x 75 SEH is sold around 580k if not mistaken, but now this project already selling their house at 730k... simple comparison, right?

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post Sep 7 2014, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 7 2014, 09:56 PM)
i have look into this project.. there are 728 k many units still available.. with wood flooring is extra 10k i,.e 738k

3 types of 22x75
2 types of 22 x80

many Chinese are viewing that area... there are currently 2 phase, selling phase is phase 1..

chart sales 50% sold... concept

a) better than SEH &EM in quality and workmanship
b) size bigger than SEH & EM
c) nearer compared to SEH & EM
d)sharing same highway as those SEH& EM folks
e) try to take a look before making desicion...

have taken quite number of photos.. shall upload it..
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BBW, I today passby the project site, 4 minutes drive from this project to EcoMajestic Satellite office woh..

Most of SEH / EM residents shall use Kajang bypass to go to KL, the exit of this project along Kajang-Semenyih bypass shall need to make a U-turn woh... no?

EM 22 x 75 also selling around 740k++, SEH 22 x 75 expected to sell at 680k onwards, why size bigger?

Do you have the materials specification for this project, are you sure the spec of this project is far more superior than cradleton unit? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Sep 7 2014, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 7 2014, 11:12 PM)
you only passby but no go and see ah? 4 minutes only? how? EM bypasss open already meh? like this EM bypass open then 2 minutes lor? rclxms.gif

maybe they can take kajang road TTDI there... all the way then take d ramp up to sg long lor... on their way back from KL.. if exiting teh take normal route passing twin palms and the tolls to sg long or jusco cheras selatan lor

wow, now got expected figure already? 680k onwards sounds havent include some factors like yearly increment and GST hor... 750k coming very near...

maybe you tell us how sp setia quality are better than this project...
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BBW, I say EM satellite office, the office that we have pesta tanglung last week. 4 minutes from this project to EMSO, personal real experience, no bluff one woh...

Tell me BBW, TTDI folks need to take U-turn boh if they want go to KL? If balik KL should be no problem, coz can turn in to the Sungai Jelok lah. That's why yesterday I ask you about the access road of this project mah..

680k is the figure SA told me one, I dunno how true it is.. But I am quite sure SEH phase 1 22 x 75 only around 580k lah.. so?

Do you have material spec for this project? Perhaps we can compare it with the SEH and EM units?? brows.gif brows.gif

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post Sep 7 2014, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 7 2014, 11:35 PM)
maybe you can drop by goodview first before making further comments? since you always pasby and will passby
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BBW, just asking if you have the materials spec mah... so can see how's the quality of materials this project is using loh..
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post Sep 7 2014, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 7 2014, 11:39 PM)
need meh? go KL just exit from sg jelok then straight go lor.. if back from KL maybe need to U turn...
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sorry BBW, I means jelok impian.. There will be 2 exits of Good view heights from jelok impian, no? If they come out from here, must make u-turn to go to KL mah, no?

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 7 2014, 11:41 PM)
wah hami SA lai de? so conservative geh? 800k mah... bigger figure let buyers discount maa.. 680k open price ppl discount di, what is left?
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Wah, since when you become SEH SA already? If you are SEH SA and tell me it is 800k, I will trust you, seriously.. brows.gif brows.gif
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post Sep 8 2014, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 7 2014, 11:57 PM)
i am not good in materials, but since small i was educated to know and belkieve that red clay bricks houses are one of the best bricks... to have red bricks alone, there is no need for plastering and as such the quality of work in welding each bricks together are very important..

other elements are concept selling... but here it offer more.. space selling.. all units start from size 22X75, with extra space behind and in front both for future extension, wider roads  with ability to park 2 cars inside and another 2 outside just before it reaches the tar roads...
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May I know how much the land size behind the house? How about the tiles used for the house? hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Sep 8 2014, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Sep 8 2014, 12:06 AM)
Speaking of the size and price, if I remember correctly SEH cluster semi D 36x78 with starting price of RM728k - will this be a better product offering purely in terms of size and product type (semi D vs terrace)?
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Good point... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

As I said before, SEH phase 1 units of 22 x 75 only starting at 580k, same land size, but maybe differ in terms on buildup and material spec...
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post Sep 8 2014, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 8 2014, 12:31 AM)
bro , saw some infor about SEH:

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http://propcafe.net/setia-ecohill-semenyih-sp-setia/
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BBW, that's the starting price for cluster semid....
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post Sep 8 2014, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Sep 8 2014, 11:51 AM)
this good view heights is locate just beside kajang perdana area, if wan access to BDR sg long thur silk highway, need to pay tool fare, not really close to sungai long side...actually it's kajang perdana side...and BBW already mentioned kajang perdana side TTDI project is ghost township, many usbsale at 600k but nobody want o buy...but now he said that this good veiw heights at 700k plus is good buy.. sounds like he is slapping his own face:clap:

anyway, with direct link from SEH to lekas high way, from SEH to this good view height is just 11km drive in 10 minutes..

so BBW said SEH 500k plus DSL is overprice product and this good view height in just 20 min drive is super good product... whistling.gif

SEH is very close to tesco semenyih with 5 minutes drive and lots of existing shoplots nearby...but good view heights is just stane alone project in the middle of mountains....

i went to the good view heights actual side...becareful on this developer workanship  you will found lots of wall crack on
the show units a.k.a actual units...
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Actually I am more concern on the entrance and exit. With current access, a big u-turn is required. Even when the access to jelok impian is ready, still need to make a "dangerous" u-turn in front of Kajang perdana... doh.gif doh.gif

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post Sep 8 2014, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Sep 8 2014, 12:03 PM)
just confirm with good view heights sales agent, good view heights only come with guard house, but not gated, residence have to form community and apply to fenced up the area if they want...

so with 10 min driving distance to setia eco hill or eco majestic...with similar price to pruchase a DSL at good view heights, can get semi D at SEH or DSL at eco majestic, fully gated and guarded by developer...or much more cheaper price can get DSL at SEH with fenced and guarded set up by developer.....which one is better choce...difference ppl difference preference la.........as i know..BBW is supporter for SHL or maybe he is sales agent for SHL which i talked to at good view heights sales gallery..who knows?  biggrin.gif
some pictures taken at good view heights...looks very familiar to SHL palm walk project at sungai long... icon_rolleyes.gif

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Thanks bro doom doom for the pictures, may i know the cascade water features and gazebo in the video is ready? What's expected maintenance fees ?

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