basically same....

not enough shock, December time we will see 12000 tons china Coastal patrol vessel launch, that will see bigger than destroyer ship....

This post has been edited by waja2000: Sep 24 2014, 10:04 PM

Not worry, they using marine gas turbine ....

This post has been edited by waja2000: Sep 24 2014, 11:55 PM

Bigger ship have advantage coastguard-to-coastguard fighting action， small coastguard ship scare to see bigger ship, event ram/collide with other ship also have advantage. china specially built it to fight with Japanese coast guard. for Vietnam， china use 5000 tons enough liao.

This post has been edited by waja2000: Sep 25 2014, 10:51 PM

chinese 12k ton coast guard ship will install 100mm Navy gun, 30/20mm will be install too.

i waiting too, newer some navigation & surface search radars also have air surveillance capability but short range mainly for helicopter/un-man Heli operation, guiding and landing (ofcouse track other object)， usually around 5000 meter high + 30~70 knot range （depend model).

basically jet fighter available in market now.

How the Royal Malaysian Navy plans to combat trans-border maritime threats in the Sabah region

In the context of rising piracy incidents in Southeast Asia – it’s the world’s “new hub” for piracy according to a United Nations report – and continued territorial disputes between China and its neighbours, Defence IQ wanted to understand more about the key threats Malaysia was facing in terms of its maritime security. What are they?

full report
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Patrol boat crew gets taste of Malaysian hospitality




HMAS Larrakia departed the port of Sandakan, Malaysian Borneo, on September 22, after a two-day stopover.

The Armidale Class Patrol Boat, with Attack 4 embarked, is one week into a six-week South East Asian Deployment.

After the necessary refueling and restoring at Sandakan, the crew took in some of the cultural sights on offer in the city that was made infamous by the WWII death marches undertaken by allied prisoners of war.

“Despite our short time in Sandakan, we managed to squeeze a fair bit in,” said Lieutenant Commander Dave McPherson, Attack Four’s Commanding Officer.

“The tour of the Orangutan Rehabilitation Centre and the visit to the Sandakan Prisoner of War Memorial Gardens were by far the highlights of the visit,” he said.

Approximately 2700 Australian and British POWs were interned in a Japanese prisoner of war camp at Sandakan from 1942, most of whom were captured during the fall of Singapore.

The prisoners were used as forced labour to build a military airstrip, however in 1945, with the war in the Pacific turning, the Japanese forced the surviving prisoners to march to the isolated settlement of Ranau, North Borneo - only six were to survive.

“I think each crew member who visited the Memorial Gardens came away with a greater appreciation of the tragic hardships suffered by the prisoners of war who were in Sandakan during that period of time,” Lieutenant Commander McPherson said.

While alongside, Lieutenant Commander McPherson and a number of crew members also visited the Sandakan Royal Malaysian Naval (RMN) base where they were entertained by RMN personnel.

Larrakia will also visit Vietnam, Palau and the Philippines, where she will take part in Exercise LUMBAS 2014, an annual bilateral maritime exercise between Australia and the Phillipines.

Larrakia will also take part in the 70th commemoration of the Battle of the Leyte Gulf.

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actually u must see they detail of competition, alot is pro-russia, china Type 96, not louse totally, only loose mainly on low engine output about 7xx hp. that already know before. anyway type 96 networked fire control system show there advantage againt other t72 during fire test. anyway type 96 is not advance tank in china. Type 10 and K2 with problematic also no point, not our army tank group/drive is all engineer level. any problem can't self basic checking and repair at field。

also i think Government should think back procurement with local tot/ip which just give cost procurement higher and higher. as results just give used up a lot procurement budget.i means not totally no tot/ip but just more reduce abit.

This post has been edited by waja2000: Oct 1 2014, 09:51 PM

too complex, not ready understand what u say...

Not only type 056， 054A frigate also do the same think, also install ASW with TAS sonar, 054A VLS already include ASROC anti-submarine missile.

This post has been edited by waja2000: Oct 2 2014, 01:10 PM

actually 056 in Chinese serve as “打杂”general/blue worker in PLAN（same people said）use mainly in patrol, anti-pirate, Anti-Smuggling (low level job). outside people will only see there new destroyer and Frigate will change brown water by 2020, specially people waiting, type 055 12K tons destroyer and 5K tons type 057 Frigate will start construction next year. 054A will stop after max 24 unit (now 20 unit already constructed）.

This post has been edited by waja2000: Oct 2 2014, 03:22 PM

News said 056 only add asw role, 056 2D radar not that capable for AAW job, but AAW is type 054A/052C/D job, and AshW will be type new type 055 job bcos this new destroyer will add Land attack cruise missile DH-10 (1500km range).
actually type 057 frigate is other name for Type 054B..... not sure what name will be use, yes, alot news saying new ship will use Electric propulsion engine。

This post has been edited by waja2000: Oct 2 2014, 04:42 PM

For PLAN navy, AAW/AShW hard to see in 056, 056 Asw version is use conventional torpedo launcher. so 056 still have ASM missile. is hardly PLAN accept to remove ASM and install VLS launch just for ASROC, than loss ASM capable.
offcouse technically no issue, can list all the role，
and export version no issue, select role base on customer want ....

This post has been edited by waja2000: Oct 2 2014, 05:34 PM

technically no issue, just can do algeria way, ship build by china, but system mix china and thales system so data-link/communication easy with Meko200 which also bought by algeria navy.
but people may have issue they have anti-chinese mind set too... also some people question china weopon tech, some people support US/euro weapon, main importance is some company maybe blame gov bcos not get contract (means not support local company), unless tot to local made
of other country may think malaysia pro to china, so avoided sell high-tech weapon to as, they just worry become other pakistan.

This post has been edited by waja2000: Oct 2 2014, 09:22 PM

corvette more in 'grunt' type role
056 about 1400 tons
Meko 80/90 1400~1600 tons
DCNS Gowind 1000, 1500 tons
Damen sigma 1800 tons version
Singapore Fearless-75 multirole combat 1200 tons

price usually china cheaper 20~40%
capability depend on price.

for me best is DCNS Gowind 1000, but price is most expensive. usd 250 million without weapon

This post has been edited by waja2000: Oct 2 2014, 10:27 PM

99% our kasturis lost ....

056
1. 056 is stealth design
2. 056 have FL-3000 defense missile which can counter ASM missile attack
3. 056 have better Anti-ship missile with range 150km
4. 056 have 76mm navy gun

Kasturi
1. no stealth design
2. no anti-missile defense system （only decoy）
3. short range Anti-ship missile
4. only 57mm gun

This post has been edited by waja2000: Oct 3 2014, 12:18 AM

3 week more Zhuhai airshow will start, a lot new china weapon will be display, so excited to wait.... too bad not able go to zhuhai to see the airshow, maybe target 2016.