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waja2000
post Nov 11 2014, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Nov 11 2014, 12:27 PM)
Lol.
New hawk come with modern avionics.
I would love it to have brimstone and hellfire in its weapons option.
Good option to use in esscom.
perhaps it can do surprisingly good tank hunting jobs.
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if want anti-tank/amour/Land target need to install Reconnaissance Pod and screen integration module at jet it cost other usd 3 million+ ....
that why not much training jet install it.
unless using ground army using lasar target for you.

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post Nov 11 2014, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Nov 11 2014, 12:48 PM)
Small jets for tank-hunting, also can do much more

Scorpion cost per-flight hour usd$3,000
Apache longbow cost per-flight hour usd$3,348

Also cheaper than apache longbow.. hmm keeps getting interesting  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

And with everyone having manpads everywhere, jets have less exposure time to manpads and have more chance to escape their range
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can't compare Helicopter and Jet, it 2 different type/role/style of combat. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 11 2014, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Nov 11 2014, 11:20 AM)
But like everyone.. it old

Btw the sensor suite does not come with the plane, we have to get it from somewhre to fit into it internal center  bay
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not somwhere to fit it, is list of sensor/module/weapon up to you to select base on your requirement. there list of partner defense industry suppler for you to select. anyway EOD already install in front nose so can do ISR, SAR, CAS, traning job. other depend your selection
anyway it cost can go up to usd 30 million if want full function.

just compare M-346 also cost usd 30 million each (S'pore order)
hawk 2xx light attack jet also cost 30~33 each.
TA-50 close to 40 million. (indo order)

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post Nov 11 2014, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 11 2014, 03:02 PM)
Haha nobody wanna mention Chinese JL-8? Basic price $10 million USD only  laugh.gif
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we want at lease L-15 (JL-10) advance traning jet level cost usd 15~18 mil

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post Nov 11 2014, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 11 2014, 06:42 PM)
Ingat Russia saja ke boleh sorok missile dalam kontena?  laugh.gif

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this one just mobile satellite launch system,can emergency launch of satellite.

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post Nov 12 2014, 12:03 AM

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best so far for china military equipment promotion video.
CASC promotional video for defense system for Zhuhai airshow 2014....
LY-80 already in MOU with china.....
buy all in one set defense system .. sure very power fully defense system biggrin.gif

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post Nov 12 2014, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Nov 12 2014, 10:13 AM)
wow seem quite impressive  blink.gif malaysia's solution for air defence??  brows.gif

Edit:apparently ly-80 has been offered to malaysia b4.. serious solution for air defence??
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More cheaper + good, and willing TOT to local, wait 1 year see MOU will success or not.
LY-80 40km mid range air defense system. ofcouse can get more better like long range FD2000 but unless our have good defense industrious if not hard to TOT, also price more expensive, FD2000 perset around usd 300 million, LY-80 around usd 200 million per-set.

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post Nov 12 2014, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Nov 12 2014, 10:46 AM)
But fd2000 200km range, this one 40km only, aiya at least better than jernas biggrin.gif

Some pipu on pakistan forum say ly-80 lousy, size of sm2 but range lower than essm sad.gif
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There LY-80 chief designer said it small than SM2 and ESSM , but better warhead design so can counter more bigger and stronger mssile. also better low attitude performance, minimium is 15 meter. LY-80 is complete set Land base Air defense system. SM2 is design for Navy.

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post Nov 14 2014, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 14 2014, 08:49 AM)
APMM to receive two Bay-class Patrol boats from Australia

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Australian Customs and border agency Bay-class patrol boat ACV Botany Bay

Two used patrol boats, to be handed over by the Australian Government to the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) in March, will be stationed in the Straits of Malacca to help prevent human trafficking. MMEA director-general Maritime Admiral Datuk Mohd Amdan Kurish said currently, MMEA personnel set to take positions on board the boats were preparing to undergo training in Australia before sailing them home next year.

“The ‘Bay Class’ boats are expected to arrive latest by March, before the Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace Exhibition takes place, as they are also taking part in the exhibition,” he said.

Meanwhile, Mohd Amdan also said six 43-metre long patrol ships worth RM385 million were being built at a local dockyard and expected to be ready by early 2017, to strengthen MMEA’s operations.

He said the six patrol ships were replacement for six of MMEA’s 30 ships which would be decommissioned in stages until 2022.
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buy more Cape class .... for APMM ....
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post Nov 16 2014, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Nov 15 2014, 09:57 PM)
plane crashed into a fountain instead of surrounding buildings
skillful pilot or just lucky?  biggrin.gif
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is Yellow J-10B RnD testing jet lost control jet after take off in chengdu Aircraft corp run way. the chengdu aircraft corp very close to chengdu town.
news said 5 people injury.

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post Nov 16 2014, 01:38 PM

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BeiDou system to set ASEAN Data and service center in Malaysia - Daily CNSS - | China Shipping Service
Nov 11, 2014

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Malaysian Investment Development Authority director-general Datuk Azman visited Wuhan Optics Valley Beidou Holding Group CO., LTD (Optics Valley BeiDou)on November 10, and the two sides reached agreement of setting Beidou ASEAN Data and service center in Malaysia.

This service center can provide services and products to various industries and fields such as disaster warning,vehicle navigation,precision farming,maritime search and rescue, intelligent port, mineral security and intelligent transportation in entire ASEAN region.

Optics Valley BeiDou is a platform for China's national spatial information industry to export technologies and to provide technological assistance to other countries and regions.

Experts from Wuhan Academy of Social Science said that the cooperation between Beidou and Malaysia is expected to further speed up the expansion of the application of BeiDou System in ASEAN region and also to contribute to serve the strategy of “One Belt and One Road”.

Furthermore, Optics Valley BeiDou is also actively expanding the cooperation with countries such as Mexico, Russia, Brunei,Cambodia, Sri Lanka and so on.



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post Nov 16 2014, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Nov 16 2014, 02:09 PM)
Imagine if some navy decided to use all of it biggrin.gif 1 and a half month endurance
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news said DCNS already propose Sub launch Mica to RMN..... no modification need.
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post Nov 16 2014, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Nov 16 2014, 02:46 PM)
According to ltz, ours can last between 1 to 2 week since ours does not have aip system

Plus need to cut hull to add new section.

Maybe can add li-ion battery and fuel cell. Again, navy mana ada duit  haha
Guess can be done if navy want haha.

If can lauch excocet, mica should no be a problem
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website always said Diesel Submarine no AIP only can submerge for 3~4 days.
with AIP traditional system can submerge 4kt for 1 week,
new one AIP with Fuel cell can submerge for 2~3 week at 4kt.
latest AIP with Li-ion batteries can archive 14 knot for 2 week due to huge electric performances by Li-ion batteries. good for mission and escape form mission.
DCNS traditional MESMA AIP is not the good AIP system. so for our future Submarine should go direction for future DCNS Li-ion AIP system
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QUOTE(thpace @ Nov 16 2014, 04:16 PM)
Would prefer fuel cell.. that the future and thejr efficiency is increasing

Li-ion battery is dated technology. Most sub would replace their existing  lead acid to li-ion battery and fuel cell
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actually not, depend how you look, Li-ion it self is not new technology, used in high-safety required asset is rarely, due to Li-ion is more danger because it can explosion like cell phone batteries, so use in commercial jet, submarine is very new, Manufacturer need completely Rnd in Li-ion safety before in use. just like B787 Li-ion issue. but at good think Li-ion easily can get 8-10x more electric power so can get high speed fo sub, and less complex than fuel cell. anyway cost of Li-ion batteries is 4+- time more cost than lead acid batteries.

lead acid still main used in submarine due to safety, and can't simply replace to Li-ion.
Fuel cell already used pas few year in submarine and now seem move to 2nd generation, anyway Fuel cell still take more time to improve. went uyour see video, u also notice Fuel cell also used liquid Oxygen also can explosion so need to need maintenance properly,

Li-ion just recently finish develop should be start used in sub for next 3 year. so far i know no sub use yet. in Video DCNS also just finish RnD on Li-ion batteries.
like Japan Soryu class submarine will also use Li-ion for next construction.

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post Nov 17 2014, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Nov 17 2014, 02:56 AM)
Aiya just use mesma aip, simple and decent capability biggrin.gif
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mesma AIP is worst AIP system among different AIP system from Germany and Sweden ... same review said almost failed AIP design system.

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