QUOTE(LTZ @ Sep 2 2014, 11:51 PM)
boleh online dekat laut ah 。。。。。 ?
Military Thread V13
Military Thread V13
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Sep 16 2014, 06:11 PM
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Sep 16 2014, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 16 2014, 12:17 PM) Numerically, PLA Navy can be largest navy in eastern hemisphere in the next 5 years. Maybe in 10 years PRC military as a whole can reach contemporary US military's level. actually 052D will stop after 10-12 unit (some forum leak, maybe will have 2nd phase), but next year we should see first ship new generation 12,000 tons type 055 destroyer start construction, this is ship waiting by China navy to match Arleigh Burke class. end of this year we will see first unit 12,000 tons china coast guard ship lunch first. i also china military fans, every day see china military forum. Right now, I'm really interested in the PLA Type 052D DDGs. This is another example of the Chinese shipyards' ridiculously fast pace of ship-building. The PLA had just ordered 13 of the powerful destroyers in 2012, but 3 are already under service (Kunming, Changsha & Guiyang) while 4 more are under advanced stages of construction & fittings (Chengdu, Heifiei, Nanjing, Yinchuan & Taiyuan) and should be launched around 2016. The remaining 6 on order will start construction on the finishing of the ships currently under order. ![]() Three Kunming-Class DDGs under adavanced stages of construction ![]() fans desgin base on mock-up at wuhan navy research. ![]() other possible design. ![]() mock-up type 055 destroyer at wuhan. This post has been edited by waja2000: Sep 16 2014, 06:32 PM |
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Sep 16 2014, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Sep 16 2014, 11:09 PM) bcos they have more population(100 million vs 28 million) so technically can provide more/long term military personal went needed. they get lot point from this.This post has been edited by waja2000: Sep 16 2014, 11:23 PM |
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Sep 17 2014, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 17 2014, 10:25 PM) The ridiculous irony is that US have foreign bases to supposedly militarily contain the PRC, a country that have absolutely no foreign bases. yes, some people here think simply us P8 asw park here, technically easy, but politically is hard for mindef, malaysia should play middle between US and China,if agree P8 park here, most likely will offend china. if reject also may offend to us. u should know mh370 case china gov already try hard to minimum criticize our to protect our relationship.Who exactly is threatening who, actually? |
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Sep 18 2014, 05:51 PM
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simple loh, we buy P8 mpa, than share some info with US ...
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Sep 19 2014, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(junchuan @ Sep 19 2014, 02:47 PM) Prob with rafale and eurofighter and fa18 is they only got 100+km range anti ship missile. Even china anti air missile on 052s 200km range SAM in 052C/D is HHQ-9 海红旗9 (not HQ-9)range is 120~150km, no official data, just get different range from many news reported.SAM chances to hit target(jet) at missile end range is 0%, to hit at 70km is 50% bcos target can run also can avoid. so best effective range to hit target for long range SAM is 30km~80km. (maybe US SM2 can get more longer range) |
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Sep 19 2014, 06:05 PM
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Sep 22 2014, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 22 2014, 02:37 PM) Betul kah? RM230m depend on how design to operation of base, not really expensive depend spec choose ,rm230m it about 80 million usd. exampleBudak OnG kata, it rigid fixed type of rig that is for sale not the floating rig kind. Most rig that area are fixed because of the shallow water and cheaper to construct. If immoveable and used, RM230m is really mahal normal brake canot tahan the gun recoil the leg are down so when ever the gun fire, it will dig down to the soil ensuring stability - surveillance Radar, why type radar, cheap short range radar? HD surface radar?, or high-end AESA coast surveillance radar (long range) price from few million USD to 30+ million usd, also radar is single unit or dual unit redundancy? or 1 main and 1 cheap 1 as backup used went main radar on service. (most cost will be here). also is the radar will integrate/Link to boat/ship radar/navigation system. ECPINS system. EOD system with heat detector. - Power system, above radar also different power requirement , total personal on base, how many KW power needed, i think at lease 60-100kw needed for all requirement, radar,radar server, computer system (control center), aircon, electrical equipment, communication system power and cost , personal needed, water pump. diesel machine pump for boat, so need 3-4 generator or under water power cable supply from land ? - flesh water system, using lite sea water desalination machine or water supply from land? depend how many will be in base, it think at lease 60+ - install diesel tank and system, at lease can supply 1 week operation before re-supply, 30~40k tons tank? also if need heli also need install air fuel tank for efficient operation. - also lite defense system, example 25mm navy gun, etc.... This post has been edited by waja2000: Sep 22 2014, 09:17 PM |
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Sep 22 2014, 10:06 PM
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Sep 22 2014, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE(azriel @ Sep 22 2014, 07:00 PM) What did u expected the choice was? i guest our Gowind is choose Esterline SuperBarricade navy decoy systems Couldn's find any news of the decoy system. Anyway, the funny thing is that this news of the torpedo launcher system was 6 days old and yet there was no news from local media or from the TLDM. Even the star reported in their 2013 article that Boustead kept the details as classified. And yet it was the manufacturer themselves that disclosed the torpedo launching system. ![]() This post has been edited by waja2000: Sep 22 2014, 11:41 PM |
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Sep 23 2014, 05:10 PM
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![]() Malaysia’s first A400M takes shape The first Airbus A400M new generation airlifter for the Royal Malaysian Air Force is rapidly taking shape at the Airbus Defence and Space final assembly line in Seville, Spain. All the fully equipped major sections including the wing, tailplane, cockpit, fuselage and landing-gear have been joined ready for ground-testing. This aircraft will be delivered in the first quarter of 2015, followed by two more later in the year and the fourth and final aircraft in 2016. The A400M can carry heavy and outsize loads over intercontinental distances at jet-like speeds while retaining true tactical capability to use short and unprepared runways, and can also act as an air-to-air refueller. The first group of Malaysian pilot trainees are already undergoing instruction at the Airbus Defence and Space International Training Centre and will be joined by maintenance engineers and technicians in the coming weeks. http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/...s-shape-404047/ http://militaryaircraft-airbusds.com/Press...pabilities.aspx |
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Sep 23 2014, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Sep 23 2014, 05:53 PM) ![]() https://www.facebook.com/kerisstrike?fref=n...?type=1&theater U.S. Soldiers from 2nd Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 2nd Infantry Division react to simulated enemy contact, during a Mounted Stryker convoy demonstration for Malaysian Army Soldiers, at KDP, Malaysia, Sep. 15, during bilateral exercise Keris Strike 14. KS14 contributes to a regional peacekeeping capability in Asia, which in turn fosters important worldwide peacekeeping operations. (Photo courtesy of 2nd Infantry Division of the Malaysian Armed Forces) This post has been edited by waja2000: Sep 23 2014, 08:35 PM |
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Sep 24 2014, 01:19 AM
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QUOTE(Piap @ Sep 24 2014, 01:17 AM) No, RMAF not getting C-130J bcos replace by A400M .... C-130H will continue serve until end of life. in future we may get more A400M with possible C-295This post has been edited by waja2000: Sep 24 2014, 01:20 AM |
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Sep 24 2014, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 24 2014, 08:56 AM) Probably cutting it very close if the plane is taking off/landing on max capacity. Landing and taking off with reduced payload should help lessen the strain on the airframe and help reduce the runway space needed for the plane. actually our A400M total cost RM 3.5 Billion for 4 unit include maintanance, parts, traning pilot/maintaianance crew, simulators, accessories. Also, most pilots would be more comfortable with landing/taking off when they have at least 1/3 of spare runway space in front of them,in case of unforeseen circumstances (insufficient engine power, overshot landing). Considering the airfield at Pulau layang-layang most probably ends in the sea, I'd imagine this would be a major issue to our pilots. Anyway, is it true that a single A400M costs $195 million USD? Seem a bit high,especially when the latest version of the C-130J Super Hercules is supposed to cost about $100 million USD each. So in theory,we can buy 2 C-130Js for the price of 1 A400M. Plus we're already familiar with the C-130 Hercules airframe in terms of pilot & tech staff training, service, maintenance and supply of spare parts, so have to take that into account in terms of savings. When we get the A400M we'll have to start everything from scratch. but that's probably just me (a C-130 Hercules fanboi around usd 260 million each. A400M combine 3-in-1, Tactical/strategic/refueling mission into 1. (it can get more cheaper without refueling module/feature), hope one day we buy A330 MRTT too. C-130J price include Maintenance/parts/Training/etc will up to 150 million too. C-130J can't do strategic transportation, can't transport AV8, EC725, lite/medium amour, big truck, event 2 unit C-130 also no point. also A400M have double C-130 range and speed up to 760km/h. C-130J not in A400M level. This post has been edited by waja2000: Sep 24 2014, 09:45 AM |
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Sep 24 2014, 12:57 PM
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Sep 24 2014, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 24 2014, 11:08 AM) Who needs Airbus when you have Air Asia. Commercial plane only can carry troop with basic weapon, other weapon/boms can't carry by commercial plane. ![]() On a more serious note, why is Malaysian army have very limited deployments in Sabah & Sarawak? Sorry if this issue has been discussed before & I may have missed it,but IMHO Borneo Island is way more geographically linked with countries we had serious beef in the past about territorial issues (Indonesia with their North Borneo and The Philippines with their Sabah Sulu Sultanate). Aren't these states theoretically in more danger than Peninsular Malaysia? Is this the result of Malaysia simply not having the logistical means or is some part of regional geo-political deals? ![]() current army setup most is from 60~80an which Peninsular is in war with Communist. so consider danger than Sarawak/sabah. that why Gov will setup new regimen in Lahat Latu. |
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Sep 24 2014, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 24 2014, 10:25 AM) Good point, but some people question whether Malaysian military doctrine currently have a need for Strategic transports? Sure, the capability to transport armored vehicles and other heavy equipment quickly by air is great, but currently our military doctrine doesn't include long-range movement of assets (i.e for overseas deployment, for example). Unless very drastic policy changes occur in the future, I don't think our military forces will ever venture out of the ASEAN region for military operations unless on special peacekeeping missions under UN (even then UN has its own assets for this). For real Strategic transport need to carry 65 tons, means objective is can carry Main Battle Tank (MBT) to worldwide. exp:C-17. but it can't do/limited tactical mission transportation. Even distance between Peninsular with East Malaysia by ship is quite relatively short. For any deployments of heavy assets from the peninsular to Sabah & Sarawak I think transport by sea is still economical and effective, considering our modest defence budget. Also, I don't think they consider the A400M as a Strategic transport. I hear a plane has to be capable of carrying at least 50 tons of cargo to be considered a Strategic transport. A400M can carry all heavy amour/heavy artillery except MBT which enough for as for better support peacekeeping missions worldwide. also with A400M we no need stop frequently to refuel went send supply to our peacekeeping team. also military transportation between Peninsular/Sarawak/sabah more easy and good for logistic, distance if send with ship it take time, remember went army send 10 Adnan 300 to Lahat latu it take 8 days+ to reach. Airforce said they happy with A400M bcos they have double C-130 load with double range. This post has been edited by waja2000: Sep 24 2014, 01:24 PM |
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Sep 24 2014, 03:33 PM
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Sep 24 2014, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 24 2014, 03:40 PM) I'm happy if one day Malaysian Armed Forces have dedicated maritime patrol plane. 2nd hand P-3 Orion also nevermind. yes, got C-295 MPA or ATR72 MPA i also happy liao. P-3 too old plane liaoAs an small archipelago nation with the sea all around I really think Navy and maritime forces should be given top priority in defence budgeting. |
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Sep 24 2014, 09:21 PM
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