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waja2000
post Sep 6 2014, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Sep 6 2014, 05:07 PM)
China says 2 pilots died in aircraft carrier tests

BEIJING (AP) — Two Chinese test pilots were killed during development of the country's first aircraft carrier fighter wing, state media said, in a rare admission of problems with the hugely popular naval program.

The admission came in a report by the official Xinhua News Agency saying President Xi Jinping had signed an order awarding honorary titles to all pilots in the first squadron to conduct take-off and landing tests aboard the Liaoning, China's only aircraft carrier.

"Two test pilots of the squadron sacrificed their lives during the tests," the report said. No details were given.

The original Xinhua report ran Aug. 28, but went largely overlooked at the time. It was picked up by U.S. defense blogs and linked Friday to the blog of the U.S. Naval Institute.

Carrier flight operations are inherently risky, and the loss of two pilots is far from unusual. However, China's military still operates under a shroud of secrecy and no deadly accidents relating to the carrier had been reported at the time.

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news may not collect, no confirm news or just translation issue. anyway test in ac fly is high risk.

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post Sep 6 2014, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 6 2014, 07:11 PM)
look like the hull from the T-series tank while the turret is the copy of American M1 front and British challenger sides
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Very low mbt design, 52 tons only, ATM should invite them come to demo test in here...... or come to LIMA 2015.

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post Sep 6 2014, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Sep 6 2014, 08:21 PM)
Captain Patricia Yapp Syau Yin
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soon MiG will be retired. Wonder if she will move on to commercial aviation or fly the next batch of new jets
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she already transfer as instructor at RMAF pilot academic (i read news few month ago)

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post Sep 6 2014, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Sep 6 2014, 08:33 PM)
The new ones will move into the new jets I guess

Next year will announce which jets will replace mig
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not sure went rmaf select new jet, pilot opinion on new jet will take into account or not.
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post Sep 6 2014, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 6 2014, 10:14 PM)
if u want low, i would prefer the K2 design, slight heavier by rough weight 55 ton and lower or higher its suspension height
Best of all, got cooperation with Turkey  brows.gif  brows.gif
plus side, it look bad ass compared to the traditional slope turret designt  laugh.gif
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today no exercise?
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k2 still higher than mbt3000, Arm suspension add cost and complexity/maintanance to MBT,got advantage and disadvantage.
not much MBT model if amry still want light MBT.
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post Sep 6 2014, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 6 2014, 11:02 PM)
K2 is 4th gen, mbt300 is 3rd gen  laugh.gif  of course it would be more complex or bigger plus more expensive  blush.gif  (most expensive tank)

if you want smaller, of course the other would be the Type 10. But by far, I still like the K2.
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Korea normal,they own declare 4Gen only .....
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post Sep 6 2014, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Sep 6 2014, 11:30 PM)
No more exports ban liao.
type 10 ftw.
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japan will open export for theyre made weapen. US also support this.

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post Sep 6 2014, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 6 2014, 11:38 PM)
compared to the japan type 10 which also japan declare themselves 4th gen.. almost same capabilities
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yes, i know ..... they have some 4gen feature, but overall industry say not full 4 Gen standard yet. it may suite korea/japan geographic/ environment/ weather.
too advance also it give more hard to sell oversea market. seems market still not accept this advance type MBT . maybe few year later. country more advance stage than army will accept it.

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post Sep 7 2014, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 7 2014, 12:02 AM)
sold to turkey ad?  brows.gif  brows.gif

the turret design will be diff only but the auto loader mechanism and the hull will based on the K2.
The only real major problem with the K2 compared to the type 10 would be it powerpack and transmission. Underpowered and unreliable

That why, Turkey was interested in the type 10 powerpack but Japan say dont want  sweat.gif  But tat was before the export ban lifted, now not sure how,
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wait and see ... and final spec .... still long wait ..
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post Sep 7 2014, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 7 2014, 12:11 AM)
M1A3 coming out soon. US say is gen 3++/4th, then we can do better comparison

Turbine engine suspected is to replaced with standard diesel (guess US canot tahan makan minyak like hell ad)

and possible return of the autoloader reducing crew to 3 man
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actually for MBT turbine engine more high fuel consumption than diesel engine, M1A1 Turbine engine fuel consumtion 380L/100km vs Leopard 2A diesel engine just around 230L/100km.
but turbine have alot advantage, it get full engine power after turbine engine start, just like jet engine, good for acceleration and speed (good for battle) , disadvantage is more complex maintenance,high fuel consumption,hot engine, also low lifespan for Turbine engine。
but diesel engine only get full power at max rpm. in low speed, diesel engine get better fuel consumption.
it all about cost. us not border fuel cost/maintenance cost.

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post Sep 7 2014, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 7 2014, 12:32 AM)
the turbine T-80 was hated by the russian due to poor on site maintenance capabilities and kuat makan minyak, in end they swap for traditional diesel 

US also canot afford ad, there on budget report back in 2012 iinm saying reduce on board time on M1 during training to lower fuel consumption. That why, get more tank simulator to replace real training
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in 1970~2000, low oil cost so world military not much border fuel cost.
after 2005 world trend go for efficiency after price oil go up, yes, US also start cut cost, they mil budget not increasing, so have to cut military equipment or more efficiency equipment, also operation.

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got read news PM Najib said receive propose for Sea-base for esccom cost RM 200 million each.
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QUOTE(junchuan @ Sep 7 2014, 09:32 PM)
What happen to philippine frigate acquisition?? So long still no news??
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i remember few shipyard company shortlisted in 2nd round. anyway there usd 410 million budget for target 2 frigate with all system and support, maybe a bit Wishful thinking, maybe can, very old or built by 2nd level shipyard company with low spec (cheap price) or civilian hull.

pass 1st round shipyard
Navantia Sepi (RTR Ventures) of Spain,
South Korean contractors STX Offshore and Shipbuilding,
Daewoo Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering Co. Ltd.
Hyundai Heavy Industries,

but news say Philipine accept 2 more to join bidding
India state-owned Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers, Ltd.
STX France

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Sep 8 2014, 05:19 PM)
Guys do u all think buying kora class corvette from india is gd idea??  basically an enlarged version of vietnam molniya missile spam boat, 16 kh35 missile with 130km range, if conflict rly happen i think like 12 of these missile spam corvettes would be more scary than 6 sgpvs, and wikipedia say each ship 40million usd(wtf) but i think that is outdated prices and may or may not include weapons. and its indian, indian relationship w china not that good i think. so, gud idea??  biggrin.gif  brows.gif
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Old ship design liao, very old technology.
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post Sep 10 2014, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 10 2014, 12:14 AM)
Most likely KK airport  whistling.gif

since tat the closest to South china sea and alot of US militray aircraft have landed there before
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i guest labuan airforce base
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post Sep 10 2014, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 10 2014, 12:33 AM)
I was thinking kk because that the closest edge to south china sea, well labuan is another option

china wont be too happy about this since it almost their backyard  tongue.gif
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china not worry at all, there new build island in Spratly island will future long range radar and airforce base. can monitor most of place south china sea.
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QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 10 2014, 12:33 AM)
I was thinking kk because that the closest edge to south china sea, well labuan is another option

china wont be too happy about this since it almost their backyard  tongue.gif
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no very sure KK airport allow military operation or not ? maybe refuel should be ok,
different KK labuan less 50km should no issue。
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post Sep 10 2014, 10:20 PM

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Eks Angsa,
just small and same old weapon .... the container not that serious damage. not that satisfied from me .....
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post Sep 10 2014, 11:19 PM

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CLUB-K demo video,
i watch few time already。
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Sep 10 2014, 10:25 PM)
One missile only wont sink a ship, deswai nowadays adopt saturation attack
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Sep 11 2014, 12:19 AM)
Pls dont misunderstood...... cruise missile not to sink a ship, its only to paralyse the ship. The true weapon to sink a ship is a heavy weight torpedo.

One missile is enough to 'stop' the ship.... the shake by missile is enough to damage the combat system.
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i know this one, want is means exocet mm40 block2 use to attack container look like not so power, maybe warhead too small. SEAWOLF look sad
overall exercise look live our navy need more power weapon/missile.

I tot at lease can expected to see like below NSM just with 125kg warhead vs 155kg on MM40 Block2.


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