QUOTE(yinchet @ Sep 10 2014, 09:45 PM)
Someone added klub-k in the rmn inventory at wiki page, lucky got junchuan edited it out.. somebody is too eager for this system
Military Thread V13
Military Thread V13
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Sep 10 2014, 10:15 PM
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Sep 10 2014, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 10 2014, 10:05 PM) Besides all being cool having the capability to be packed into a completely random shipping container for CAMO!! (I wonder what inconspicuous form does the search/tracking radar take on? cement mixer perhaps?), any advantages/disadvantages over BrahMos? Because from what I'm reading,Klub missile acts more like a Russian Tomahawk subsonic Cruise missile rather than straight-up Anti-Shipping missile. And the BrahMos' big talking point is the mach 3.5 speed. Not just shipping container.![]() it can be anywhere on train on lorry or on some random location. it can be use as anti ship missile, or cruise missile. top speed iinm mach2.9. Not far from brahmos top speed. |
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Sep 10 2014, 10:20 PM
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Eks Angsa,
just small and same old weapon .... the container not that serious damage. not that satisfied from me ..... |
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Sep 10 2014, 10:25 PM
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Sep 10 2014, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Sep 10 2014, 10:19 PM) Not just shipping container. once approaching target, then will sprint run supersonic in the final stage.. Tat oni give a very short amount of time for the ship defence system to response to the threat it can be anywhere on train on lorry or on some random location. it can be use as anti ship missile, or cruise missile. top speed iinm mach2.9. Not far from brahmos top speed. while brahmos is supersonic all the time with with some added feature to trick or avoid the ship defense system |
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Sep 10 2014, 11:19 PM
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CLUB-K demo video, i watch few time already。 |
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Sep 11 2014, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 10 2014, 10:20 PM) Eks Angsa, Pls dont misunderstood...... cruise missile not to sink a ship, its only to paralyse the ship. The true weapon to sink a ship is a heavy weight torpedo.just small and same old weapon .... the container not that serious damage. not that satisfied from me ..... One missile is enough to 'stop' the ship.... the shake by missile is enough to damage the combat system. This post has been edited by LTZ: Sep 11 2014, 12:21 AM |
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Sep 11 2014, 12:25 AM
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Anybody here from perol mindef ?
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Sep 11 2014, 12:26 AM
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QUOTE(junchuan @ Sep 10 2014, 11:38 PM) i thot i saw b4 on some official looking website say military equipment cannot disguise as civilian or smth??? and brahmos warhead i think a lot more big than klub if i not wrong canot red cross or enemy insigniaor any other civilian logo but when war, anything goes |
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Sep 11 2014, 12:26 AM
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Multipurpose cruise missile maybe impressive,but surely they cost a lot more than purpose-built anti-ship missiles due to the more advanced on-board computers and guidance systems and whatnot. With Malaysian government's notorious penny-pinching when buying defense assets,a smaller arsenal being a trade-off of a few advanced missiles is not a good deal.
Also someone made a good point,can you legally disguise the transport & deployment of weapons as civilian stuff? I thought all military weapons needs to be marked as such? Probably on some Geneva convention clause or somewhere? I suppose you can play with technicalities,like disguising a missile launcher truck as a normal military transport truck,but I feel launching missiles from a civilian looking shipping container breaks some international law somewhere. |
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Sep 11 2014, 12:34 AM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 11 2014, 12:26 AM) Multipurpose cruise missile maybe impressive,but surely they cost a lot more than purpose-built anti-ship missiles due to the more advanced on-board computers and guidance systems and whatnot. With Malaysian government's notorious penny-pinching when buying defense assets,a smaller arsenal being a trade-off of a few advanced missiles is not a good deal. that why ppl that have it does not want to be known to have it right?Also someone made a good point,can you legally disguise the transport & deployment of weapons as civilian stuff? I thought all military weapons needs to be marked as such? Probably on some Geneva convention clause or somewhere? I suppose you can play with technicalities,like disguising a missile launcher truck as a normal military transport truck,but I feel launching missiles from a civilian looking shipping container breaks some international law somewhere. This post has been edited by thpace: Sep 11 2014, 12:34 AM |
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Sep 11 2014, 12:41 AM
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 10 2014, 10:20 PM) Eks Angsa, It is actually really difficult to sink a ship. Unless you totally destroy the hull integrity,the hull can be afloat as long as the bulkheads hold,even if the entire superstructure has been blown away. Usually just 1-2 hits from anti-ship missiles won't sink even a small frigate. For example, HMS Sheffield after being hit with an Argentine Exocet (that didn't even explode!) burned for nearly a week from a broken diesel pipe before sinking due to heavy seas when towboats tried to salvage the hull before even patching up the impact hole.just small and same old weapon .... the container not that serious damage. not that satisfied from me ..... |
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Sep 11 2014, 12:58 AM
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lets mind fucuk
![]() http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=08d_1403263794 Leak photo showed US piloted F-22 "shot" down by a Malaysian piloted Mig-29 during the recent Exercise Cope Taufan in Malaysia. The photo showed the F-22 failed to radar jam the Mig and was releasing flares to avoid missile lock-on by the Mig-29, but was later nailed by cannon fire instead. me donno how legit this is pasla tak terlibat secara lansung ngan Cope Taufan hahaha |
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Sep 11 2014, 01:06 AM
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pity that liveleak submitter just want his/her 50 cent, from ll posts.
http://theaviationist.com/2014/06/18/close...-combat-f15-f22 |
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Sep 11 2014, 01:07 AM
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Sep 11 2014, 01:13 AM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Sep 11 2014, 12:58 AM) lets mind fucuk The plane behind is a f15. There's more space between the nozzles on the mig29![]() http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=08d_1403263794 Leak photo showed US piloted F-22 "shot" down by a Malaysian piloted Mig-29 during the recent Exercise Cope Taufan in Malaysia. The photo showed the F-22 failed to radar jam the Mig and was releasing flares to avoid missile lock-on by the Mig-29, but was later nailed by cannon fire instead. me donno how legit this is pasla tak terlibat secara lansung ngan Cope Taufan hahaha |
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Sep 11 2014, 01:14 AM
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QUOTE(lulz @ Sep 11 2014, 01:06 AM) pity that liveleak submitter just want his/her 50 cent, from ll posts. good.http://theaviationist.com/2014/06/18/close...-combat-f15-f22 puas aku mencarik smoke trail |
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Sep 11 2014, 02:21 AM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Sep 10 2014, 11:58 PM) lets mind fucuk Oh ni, this photo was available way earlier before they made this news kan. The plane chasing F-22 there is F-15 lah. Tail rudder punya rupa tak macam MiG. Also tengok position of the thrust nozzles. Leak photo showed US piloted F-22 "shot" down by a Malaysian piloted Mig-29 during the recent Exercise Cope Taufan in Malaysia. The photo showed the F-22 failed to radar jam the Mig and was releasing flares to avoid missile lock-on by the Mig-29, but was later nailed by cannon fire instead. me donno how legit this is pasla tak terlibat secara lansung ngan Cope Taufan hahaha MiG-29's butt for comparison: ![]() Tengok pun dah boleh tau kelentong |
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Sep 11 2014, 02:42 AM
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Sep 11 2014, 07:58 AM
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QUOTE(FlameReaper @ Sep 11 2014, 02:21 AM) Oh ni, this photo was available way earlier before they made this news kan. The plane chasing F-22 there is F-15 lah. Tail rudder punya rupa tak macam MiG. Also tengok position of the thrust nozzles. alahh korang cepat sangat la buat inzalMiG-29's butt for comparison: ![]() Tengok pun dah boleh tau kelentong hahahha kan ada tulis atas tu let's mind fucuk but seriously, buat saspen je! This post has been edited by atreyuangel: Sep 11 2014, 07:59 AM |
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