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TSlokgotz
post Aug 28 2006, 07:00 PM, updated 20y ago

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My situation.

I worked in this company officially since 1st December 2004, before this date, I was a part timer for the same company.

I tendered my resignation on 2nd August 2006, and as per my appointment letter, I have to give 3 months notice. So my last day shoud be 2nd November 2006.

I am entitled to 12 days annual leave this year(actually more, but 12 days is easier to calculate and explain in the forums....) and I have taken none. So since my last FULL month for the company is October, I should have 10 days leave after purata.

I asked for an early release, the company agrees and my last day is 30th September 2006.

If I accept this early release, ALL my leaves will be forfeited. That means my 10 days leave entitlement is gone.

My questions:
1. The 10 days leave entitlement that forfeits if I accept the early release, is it the same in other companies?
2. Even if I do leave the company on 30th September 2006, the company should pay me back my 10 days PAID leave right, because it's my entitlement?
3. The company also said that my leave is only 7 days because i tendered my resignation on August, means January to July, 1 each for every month. They told me after i tendered my resignation, the remaining months, i.e. August and September, I do not have leave entitlements. Is this true?

My initial plan was, I request for early release, i.e. leave the company on 30th September 2006, and take all my leave and leave before 30th September 2006. But with this problem, i cant do that.

If i dont take the early release, my last day would be 2nd November 2006 and I still have all my leaves (ONLY those that i have accumulated from January - July, See question No. 3). But i have to report to my new job on 1st October.
TSlokgotz
post Aug 29 2006, 05:27 PM

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anyone can shed some light??
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post Aug 29 2006, 10:46 PM

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1. Yup, I would think so.

2. Nope, by leaving early, YOU should be the one having to PAY the company. If the company agree to early release, that requirement is waived. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

3. Not sure, but that seems to be the case last time I resigned.

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post Aug 30 2006, 04:17 PM

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1) is not forfeits, is actually used for ur early leaving

2) u have to pay the company for the rest of the day of early leaving
let say u early leaving for 30days, n have 10day of leave,
so u need to pay back 20days to the company

3) the leave is not calculated like tat, which comfirmation/join/begin of new year. total leave will be given, no mater which day in which month u leave, u sill entitle for the whole leave in ur case 12days
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post Aug 31 2006, 02:17 PM

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did the company pay u back?
or just ask u to accept ntg?
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post Aug 31 2006, 03:01 PM

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Some correction there, you tendered your resignation letter on 2nd Aug, your last day should be 1st November NOT 2nd November.

QUOTE(lowyat9999 @ Aug 30 2006, 04:17 PM)
3) the leave is not calculated like tat, which comfirmation/join/begin of new year. total leave will be given, no mater which day in which month u leave, u sill entitle for the whole leave in ur case 12days
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Nope, I think you are wrong to think that. We are can only get entitled 12 days (according to example) if we work for the company for the whole year.

The calculation should be
Number of months you've work including 3 month notice period / 12 months X leave entitlement for a year

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post Aug 31 2006, 03:06 PM

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get advice from here -> www.employee.com.my
wasabi
post Aug 31 2006, 11:48 PM

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to calc the leave entitled

No. of month worked / 12 x leave entitlement... =

after ur confirmation, u oredi entitled for annual leave ....
(i'll skip here, as it very detail)

there are call.. pay leave and _____(forgot the word)

how much they gonna buy back ur leave... is either No. working day or No. of day in the month...

mean salary divide by xxx or yyy




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post Aug 31 2006, 11:51 PM

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date of commerce is 1st December 2004,
date resigned 2nd November 2006.

so ur leave entitlement is 23 days

Q is, how many leave left?

for u case, u leave Co. 2 month early... err.. take unpaid leave for whole month la...

MIA for few days... sure u'll be sack. hahahhaha

This post has been edited by wasabi: Aug 31 2006, 11:55 PM
TSlokgotz
post Sep 1 2006, 12:30 AM

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my 12 days leave in only for the year 2006.......the pass years all burnt......

i have actually more than 12 days.....about 30++ days to be exact.......i put 12 days so that it is easier to count......

i'll talk to the HR department about this.....coz my leave is my entitlement.....

the company agrees to let me leave early but nothing on black and white about my leaves being forfeited....if it is written in black and white, i wont make so much noise.....it is not fair....what if i took all my leaves before i resigned, and i do not have any more leaves to be forfeited....how to calculate??

and for my leave calculations....even though i resigned on august....i think i am still entitle for the leaves i get for my last 3 months after resignation.....because i am still working for the company....
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post Sep 8 2006, 02:53 AM

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entitlement and claimable is totally different

resigned on augest , still working until Nov??? dont get you...
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post Sep 8 2006, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(ykc @ Aug 31 2006, 03:01 PM)
Some correction there, you tendered your resignation letter on 2nd Aug, your last day should be 1st November NOT 2nd November.
Nope, I think you are wrong to think that. We are can only get entitled 12 days (according to example) if we work for the company for the whole year.

The calculation should be
Number of months you've work including 3 month notice period / 12 months X leave entitlement for a year
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But normally they won't tell u that ur 12 days leave.u can only take 1 per month.damn cheating.
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post Sep 8 2006, 03:12 PM

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From my experience, two different companys,

1st) I use all my annual leaves on the last month,
2nd)I wanted to use all my annual leaves on the last month too, however them don't allow, and buy my annual leaves biggrin.gif
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post Sep 9 2006, 07:39 AM

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1) u'll be forfeited . no C/F to next yr biggrin.gif
2) u[r a cheap labor... haha j/k
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post Sep 9 2006, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(lokgotz @ Aug 28 2006, 08:00 PM)
My situation.

I worked in this company officially since 1st December 2004, before this date, I was a part timer for the same company. 

I tendered my resignation on 2nd August 2006, and as per my appointment letter, I have to give 3 months notice.  So my last day shoud be 2nd November 2006.

I am entitled to 12 days annual leave this year(actually more, but 12 days is easier to calculate and explain in the forums....) and I have taken none.  So since my last FULL month for the company is October, I should have 10 days leave after purata.

I asked for an early release, the company agrees and my last day is 30th September 2006.

If I accept this early release, ALL my leaves will be forfeited.  That means my 10 days leave entitlement is gone.

My questions:
1.  The 10 days leave entitlement that forfeits if I accept the early release, is it the same in other companies?
2.  Even if I do leave the company on 30th September 2006, the company should pay me back my 10 days PAID leave right, because it's my entitlement?
3.  The company also said that my leave is only 7 days because i tendered my resignation on August, means January to July, 1 each for every month.  They told me after i tendered my resignation, the remaining months, i.e. August and September, I do not have leave entitlements.  Is this true?

My initial plan was, I request for early release, i.e. leave the company on 30th September 2006, and take all my leave and leave before 30th September 2006.  But with this problem, i cant do that. 

If i dont take the early release, my last day would be 2nd November 2006 and I still have all my leaves (ONLY those that i have accumulated from January - July, See question No. 3).  But i have to report to my new job on 1st October.
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You get the 10 days salary also la dear. lol. So calculate ur income properly and dont let them cheat on you saying.. Oh.. you can leave earlier .. Not good meh in expenses of your leave. So in real life u work till Oct 10 if u leave on 30th September. Good luck and all the best in ur new work.. Economy kinda sucks nowdays

 

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