QUOTE(bob @ Oct 22 2007, 08:59 AM)
THIS IS THE MCLAREN THREAD... so post your whinings at the MAIN F1 thread or the FERRARI THREAD.Team Vodafone McLaren Mercedes V2, Malaysia GP Qlfy: Heikki P3, Lewis P4
Team Vodafone McLaren Mercedes V2, Malaysia GP Qlfy: Heikki P3, Lewis P4
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Oct 22 2007, 10:47 AM
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Oct 22 2007, 11:14 AM
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Oct 22 2007, 11:31 AM
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If Lewis adopted a two stop strategy, the race results would have been different. I was really surprised to see that McLaren short fuelled him twice. I did not get to hear what the commentator said because I did not turn up the volume. Housemate was asleep.
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Oct 22 2007, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(car_o_scope @ Oct 22 2007, 11:31 AM) If Lewis adopted a two stop strategy, the race results would have been different. I was really surprised to see that McLaren short fuelled him twice. I did not get to hear what the commentator said because I did not turn up the volume. Housemate was asleep. because the super soft doesnt last long at Interlagos. Thats why his middle stint is short. |
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Oct 22 2007, 11:54 AM
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I guessed the jinx is on Lewis. During the qualifying session, they were talking about the jinx on British drivers who lost out at the very last race back in the 80's.
Better luck next year |
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Oct 22 2007, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(car_o_scope @ Oct 22 2007, 11:31 AM) If Lewis adopted a two stop strategy, the race results would have been different. I was really surprised to see that McLaren short fuelled him twice. I did not get to hear what the commentator said because I did not turn up the volume. Housemate was asleep. A 2 stop wouldn't have made much of a difference. They gambled on 3 stops so that he could make his way up the field easier on a lighter car but we just didn't have the pace. |
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Oct 22 2007, 01:55 PM
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ooppssssss ........ |
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Oct 22 2007, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(verx @ Oct 22 2007, 11:56 AM) A 2 stop wouldn't have made much of a difference. They gambled on 3 stops so that he could make his way up the field easier on a lighter car but we just didn't have the pace. Funny thing was Massa said the super-softs functioned better and the fastest lap by Kimi was on the super-soft. What do you think? |
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Oct 22 2007, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Oct 22 2007, 02:06 PM) Funny thing was Massa said the super-softs functioned better and the fastest lap by Kimi was on the super-soft. What do you think? Erm..I think....that Massa and Kimi have a different car? The tyres have been our weakness this season. We can't seem to extract as much pace from them compared to Ferrari. Next year should be better seeing that this is the first season we're back to using Bridgestones. |
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Oct 22 2007, 02:20 PM
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it is not McLaren cannot extract more pace than Ferarri from the tyre.. is just that McLaren cannot keep the tyre as good as the Ferarri did...
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Oct 22 2007, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(verx @ Oct 22 2007, 02:18 PM) Erm..I think....that Massa and Kimi have a different car? Woot, forgive my absent mindedness.The tyres have been our weakness this season. We can't seem to extract as much pace from them compared to Ferrari. Next year should be better seeing that this is the first season we're back to using Bridgestones. |
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Oct 22 2007, 02:23 PM
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i knew it .. kimi won the title .. YEAH ..
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Oct 22 2007, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(verx @ Oct 22 2007, 11:14 AM) verx is right. I am surprise how he can avoided being permanently banned from the forum after posting flame baits in Football Lounge and in here QUOTE(sheahann @ Oct 22 2007, 02:23 PM) Wrong thread? Despite missed out the WDC title, as a rookie Lewis has given everything he can and gave both Alonso & Kimi a run for their money. This post has been edited by alien2003: Oct 22 2007, 03:10 PM |
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Oct 22 2007, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Oct 22 2007, 02:20 PM) it is not McLaren cannot extract more pace than Ferarri from the tyre.. is just that McLaren cannot keep the tyre as good as the Ferarri did... It's both actually. There were times this season where we opted to use the harder tyres for qualy whereas Ferrari used the softs. And nobody cares about keeping the tyres in good shape in qualy. |
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Oct 22 2007, 03:30 PM
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Brundle did say that the drivers do try to keep their tyres in good shape in quali for use during race day. Something to do with the tyres going through a heat cycle, making the compound harder, thus being able to perform better for a longer period of time.
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Oct 22 2007, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Oct 22 2007, 03:30 PM) Brundle did say that the drivers do try to keep their tyres in good shape in quali for use during race day. Something to do with the tyres going through a heat cycle, making the compound harder, thus being able to perform better for a longer period of time. Normally that's for the third session. We have ran with the harder compound in the 1st 2 sessions. BMW for instance hate using their soft tyre and try to minimise the time using it as much as possible. We don't struggle nearly as bad as them of course. |
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Oct 22 2007, 04:00 PM
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I would like to know u guys opinion if McLaren manage to appeal and the title go to Hamilton... what do u guys think?
Hamilton want a title like this? |
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Oct 22 2007, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Oct 22 2007, 04:00 PM) I would like to know u guys opinion if McLaren manage to appeal and the title go to Hamilton... what do u guys think? I dunno. Obviously it's not the best way to win a title. But if Williams and BMW were running illegal cars u could argue Hamilton could have finished higher than he did. But seriously i doubt the FIA would swing our way this time around.Hamilton want a title like this? |
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Oct 22 2007, 04:31 PM
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It's the team's fault, not the driver's.
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Oct 22 2007, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Oct 22 2007, 04:00 PM) I would like to know u guys opinion if McLaren manage to appeal and the title go to Hamilton... what do u guys think? It will not be as sweet as winning it on the track. However, chances for Hamilton winning the title is extremely slim.Hamilton want a title like this? |
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