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 Canon EOS Family, DSLR, EOS - V58, The White Paladins' Territory!

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post Dec 15 2015, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Dec 15 2015, 07:51 AM)
24-70mm f2.8 Mark I or II?  brows.gif

Mark II is damn impressive. Razor blade sharpness.
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fortunate enough, it is II brows.gif
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post Dec 15 2015, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(Baohulu55 @ Dec 15 2015, 11:12 AM)
fortunate enough, it is II brows.gif
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basket lichnuss. Very oreserm walkabout lens especially when you are lazy to switch lens.

When nonac gonna make IS version la. vmad.gif
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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Dec 15 2015, 11:35 AM)
basket lichnuss. Very oreserm walkabout lens especially when  you are lazy to switch lens.

When nonac gonna make IS version la. vmad.gif
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yup, that is the backside of 24-70mm, it does not have IS cry.gif
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post Dec 15 2015, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Dec 15 2015, 11:35 AM)
basket lichnuss. Very oreserm walkabout lens especially when  you are lazy to switch lens.

When nonac gonna make IS version la. vmad.gif
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70mm doesn't need IS la. Technologies come with a cost...just like 35mm F2 IS..cost Rm2K++...
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QUOTE(Baohulu55 @ Dec 15 2015, 11:58 AM)
yup, that is the backside of 24-70mm, it does not have IS cry.gif
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if they had that IS feature maybe the price also increase 1k sweat.gif
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QUOTE(g88 @ Dec 15 2015, 11:59 AM)
70mm doesn't need IS la. Technologies come with a cost...just like 35mm F2 IS..cost Rm2K++...
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Good to have, if nikon can make it, I don't see why nonac can't make it. Anyway luckily nonac compensated with 11-24L.

Looking forward for an improved version of 24-70.

Btw 35mm f2 is crappy, no idea why they even invested IS on it. tsk tsk.

QUOTE(adam_lss @ Dec 15 2015, 11:59 AM)
if they had that IS feature maybe the price also increase 1k  sweat.gif
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If you already fork out like close to 8k for 24-70L, i think extra 1k for IS is justifiable la. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Dec 15 2015, 12:04 PM)
Good to have, if nikon can make it, I don't see why nonac can't make it. Anyway luckily nonac compensated with 11-24L.

Looking forward for an improved version of 24-70.

Btw 35mm f2 is crappy, no idea why they even invested IS on it. tsk tsk.
If you already fork out like close to 8k for 24-70L, i think extra 1k for IS is justifiable la. biggrin.gif
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yaya in that sense, the pain is rather similar!hahaha


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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Dec 15 2015, 12:04 PM)
Good to have, if nikon can make it, I don't see why nonac can't make it. Anyway luckily nonac compensated with 11-24L.

Looking forward for an improved version of 24-70.

Btw 35mm f2 is crappy, no idea why they even invested IS on it. tsk tsk.
If you already fork out like close to 8k for 24-70L, i think extra 1k for IS is justifiable la. biggrin.gif
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if and only if, the adding of IS cost 1K tongue.gif

got feeling it will cost more than that if it happened.
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Eh who says 70mm doesn't need IS?

When the lighting is low and f2.8 doesn't help, you can at least get 2 to 4 stops stabilization and that help a lot!

This is also helpful in handheld videography, 24-70 with IS is really useful.

Try out the 24-70 f/4 IS and see, it has low-light advantage over 24-70 f/2.8
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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Dec 15 2015, 12:04 PM)
Good to have, if nikon can make it, I don't see why nonac can't make it. Anyway luckily nonac compensated with 11-24L.

Looking forward for an improved version of 24-70.

Btw 35mm f2 is crappy, no idea why they even invested IS on it. tsk tsk.
If you already fork out like close to 8k for 24-70L, i think extra 1k for IS is justifiable la. biggrin.gif
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thats a very narrow minded mind...if nikon can do it why not you change to nikon system ? 24-70 just got improved to II and F4 version won't be any new improve version in next 3 to 5 years...

35 F2 is crap ? till u try then only comment...all lens have its pros and cons. don't judge so optimistically la
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Do not post up your sales stuff here. smile.gif
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Dec 15 2015, 03:42 PM)
Do not post up your sales stuff here. smile.gif
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oh i thought subtle one is ok, sorry my bad biggrin.gif

can i just mention i have something to sell and post the link to it?
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QUOTE(Petre @ Dec 15 2015, 03:59 PM)
oh i thought subtle one is ok, sorry my bad biggrin.gif

can i just mention i have something to sell and post the link to it?
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Nope, that's not allowed as well, actually. smile.gif
You already have it on your signature...
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QUOTE(teikboon @ Dec 15 2015, 12:40 PM)
if and only if, the adding of IS cost 1K  tongue.gif

got feeling it will cost more than that if it happened.
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Yeap, 11-24L without IS already like 10k, if with IS fuhhh.... madness

QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 15 2015, 12:54 PM)
Eh who says 70mm doesn't need IS?

When the lighting is low and f2.8 doesn't help, you can at least get 2 to 4 stops stabilization and that help a lot!

This is also helpful in handheld videography, 24-70 with IS is really useful.

Try out the 24-70 f/4 IS and see, it has low-light advantage over 24-70 f/2.8
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IS is useful more for videography as it helps to reduce handshake movement.

For low-light photography, I'll take f2.8 anytime over f4 IS.

IS doesn't help to reduce blurry shots due to subject movement, but having 2.8 gives you the higher shutter speed to freeze movement.

QUOTE(g88 @ Dec 15 2015, 01:26 PM)
thats a very narrow minded mind...if nikon can do it why not you change to nikon system ? 24-70 just got improved to II and F4 version won't be any new improve version in next 3 to 5 years...
well you wouldn't know, Canon might retailiate if their demand / sales goes down. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(g88 @ Dec 15 2015, 01:26 PM)
35 F2 is crap ? till u try then only comment...all lens have its pros and cons. don't judge so optimistically la
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Nah, I don't try lenses and start judging 'optimisticlally'.

I've owned most of the lenses, from budget to premium lenses. I still have 30 over premium lenses in my hand.

I can honestly tell you this is crap lens.

My Siggy 30mm f1.4 kicks my C35 anytime yo.
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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Dec 15 2015, 04:24 PM)
For low-light photography, I'll take f2.8 anytime over f4 IS.

IS doesn't help to reduce blurry shots due to subject movement, but having 2.8 gives you the higher shutter speed to freeze movement.
I should be more specific in my post. biggrin.gif

If you're like me shooting still subjects and scenery (and don't mind movement trails) then F4 IS is better than F2.8.

If it's action or movements then yes F2.8 has 1-stop edge to reduce motion blur.
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QUOTE(g88 @ Dec 15 2015, 01:26 PM)
35 F2 is crap ? till u try then only comment...all lens have its pros and cons. don't judge so optimistically la
ehhh vikingw2k owns more lens than the rest of us. smile.gif

Even if he doesn't own it, I think he's entitled his opinion.

Every other lens in this world will have people who love them and people who hate them, or have varying opinion.

What you adore may be what I detest and vice versa.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 15 2015, 04:57 PM)
ehhh vikingw2k owns more lens than the rest of us. smile.gif

Even if he doesn't own it, I think he's entitled his opinion.

Every other lens in this world will have people who love them and people who hate them, or have varying opinion.

What you adore may be what I detest and vice versa.
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so far i am hooked to f2.8 too tongue.gif
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wan awesome IS got for tammy 24-70mm f2.8, somemore cheap yo tongue.gif

the size of 24-70mm f2.8 lens never stop growing sweat.gif
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QUOTE(adam_lss @ Dec 15 2015, 08:21 AM)
i didnt know tokina also came out with 100mm macro...
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i tried to use tokina for event photo but failed cos slow focusing lens due to macro nature sweat.gif
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QUOTE(adam_lss @ Dec 15 2015, 05:01 PM)
so far i am hooked to f2.8 too tongue.gif
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You'll love 2.8 if you are shooting events. I struggle a lot with f4, even at widest end 11mm. Have to bump iso kawkaw to compensate.

QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Dec 15 2015, 07:53 PM)
the size of 24-70mm f2.8 lens never stop growing sweat.gif
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and weight.

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