7D is old. even the 550D and 60D had ISO performance improvement over it.

http://www.mobile01.com/newsdetail.php?id=16011

Review of the 24-105mm STM. It's kinda hard to see why anyone would choose this lens over the 24-105mm L which is really cheap right now (1.5k-2k), since the performance is worse and no weather sealing + plastic build.

Where bro, i maybe interested to pickup an L since it is EF mount, can use on my film canon too.

http://www.mylensdb.com/gear/canon-ef-24-1...4l-is-usm/price

台幣15,600元 <=-- that's A LOT cheaper than EF 24-105 F4L IS USM you know.

don't compare it with the lens only price, since you can get really cheap unit from those separated kits (like 6D kit or 5d3 kit).

http://www.mudah.my/New+canon+ef+24+105mm+...ns-30505633.htm

after converted into RM it's around 1.7k?

The thing is the 24-105 STM isn't a kit lens (well maybe in the future but for now it's still not, correct me if i am wrong), so the individual selling price will not be very low. While there's a lot of 24-105L that's either NEW or used for few months/weeks that people don't like from their FF kit, which most of them are under 2k.

Going by the article, let's assume it's RM 1,800. A 24-105L is still holding SRP RM 3,999.00.

Street price, new around 3.5k.

The thing about those cheap units is that it's about luck, and it's about people sitting there hunting often or chance upon it. Not everyone is that type of user.

Some people may have just inherited an old 5D and want a new lens to use without going through the hassle of hunting, initiate trade, test and all. Not everyone has the luxury of time.

Some people are new, and they lack confidence to COD and such.

The EF 24-105 STM helps with that, even at RM 1,800 it's almost half the price of 24-105L. For a casual user who wants to shoot and not particular about aperture size then it's a very reasonable option.

Never know a child might be interested in photography, so the father passes to him his old 5D and buys the 24-105 STM for learning purpose.

The general consumer are not the one on forum.

I understand your point, but when you are spending around 2k for a lens alone, don't care if it's brand new or not, I am expecting people to have at least did a little research about pricing/ specs etc before sealing the deal.

There will still be market for the STM, but it will be very limited I think. At the end of the day, who doesn't want to get the most out of their money?

The link I posted above is a shop so it doesn't make any difference compared to buying the STM, other than you don't get a nicely printed packaging box. And imo, most of the sellers that I saw in GS/ FB or other sites who sell the L are from shops/ traders, not limited to just a random lens owner.

Not everyone's like that. That's why shops at 1-Utama like Shong Lee can survive nicely, and many other camera shops. Plenty of people still buy at SRP.

When photography is not their total interest, people will just buy from wherever they can. Those consumers, many don't go to places like YL Pudu. Heck I haven't been to YL Pudu either.

The one you posted also is random, you go that shop I'm sure it's not always having 24-105L at that price. Furthermore it's import set, clearly from an import set body.

Can't compare with PROMO price.

Hmm true...

For that shop, I went there before , their pricing is really good and items are updated oftenly so I don't think it will be posted if they don't have the items.

There are some shops that only deal with Canon M'sia set, you won't find those prices there.

Then there are those that have both CMM and Import set.

Shashinki sells 5D3 with 24-105L import set for. RM10,250.00. Sell off the body at import model price of RM8,950.00 and sell off that 24-105L for super duper special price of RM 1,850 and still can profit RM 550

anyone got experience with using tele-converter? is it really the maximum aperture available will be deceased by the multiple the converter has?

example: 2x will make your lens lose 2 stops of light

24-105 F4 is value for $$$ lens but lack of IQ & sharpness. Suitable for travelling. Tested 24-70 F4 very good IQ & sharpness is there all round.

1.4x - 1 stop
2x - 2 stops

Just want to ask, for 1080p video recording with DSLR, how fast you guys reckon the SDHC card read/write speed should be? I currently have only the Sandisk Extreme 45 MB/s Class 10. I have tried recording some 2+ minutes 1080p video with it and it seemed alright. Is there a BIG difference if I use the one with 80 MB/s or 95 MB/s?

This post has been edited by vankodoq: Dec 14 2014, 10:34 PM

On what camera? I use sandisk 30mb/s class 10 cards and they usually fine. Maybe if you shoot with top end canon cameras with All-i codec I find those usually want more speed. As in it sometimes automatically stops the recording. Otherwise IPB codecs I have no problems at all. To be honest I don't know the difference in quality between the two except that All-i really does take a lot more memory.

All-i or IPB options only available on top end canon cameras. For the lower mid end one I assume they all IPB codecs.

Tested it on my 70D. Haven't researched about the All-i and IPB difference(s), but the tests I mentioned earlier were all with IPB.

Yea getting it this week, This will be my all in one lens. Travel and Food Photography (none blogging type, studio type setup)
The 24-105 F4 is very good value for money, im getting the 24-70mm F4L cause it got extra 1 mode, Macro =)

This post has been edited by munak991: Dec 16 2014, 12:15 PM

I will choose 24-70 F4 over 24-105 as well.

the downside on 24-105 F4 is the distance of focus is quite far compare to 24-70.

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