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 Proton PrevĂ© V21, Versione ventuno!

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post Sep 26 2014, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(theonlyvin @ Sep 26 2014, 11:59 AM)
Long pressed? To deactivated, u must long press the button...(If im not mistaken)  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(vikneswaranc_17 @ Sep 26 2014, 12:40 PM)
You have to press on the button for like 10 seconds to get it deactivated / off. Then a simple press back would activate back the ESC / Traction Control
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Thanks! I did press it for awhile but not that long. Will try again later.
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post Sep 26 2014, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(sanadi @ Sep 26 2014, 07:27 PM)
ESC blinking means it is operating. No problem there. Example, I'm climbing the hill at MEX highway, it is raining heavily and there is standing water on the road. I keep pressing the accelerator, the ESC starts blinking. That is because the stability & traction control detects wheel slip and wheel spin, due to reduced tracting.

It reduces engine power & brakes individual wheel to maintain control. As a sign to me it is operating, and warning me I have reached the limit of traction, it blinks the ESC light.
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Noted and thanks.
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post Sep 27 2014, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Sep 27 2014, 01:48 PM)
installing reverse camera will void the warranty? any brnd will do?

install the reverse camera can link at lcd?
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I asked about installing a reverse camera at my SC and the gent told me that I would have to replace the current radio/LCD system. What a waste of money. They should have designed it such that the radio/LCD system allows reverse camera plug in rather than a complete system changeover. The manufacturer's way of maximising revenues, I guess. But a waste of limited resources in my book. If you know of a smart way around this reverse camera, please let me know. Thanks.
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post Sep 27 2014, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Sep 27 2014, 05:45 PM)
Err that's to be safe on their side because the head unit on Suprima comes with reverse cam installed. Proton itself do not 'officially condone' us to install reverse cam on our Preve (CFE), except for LE variant. Just go to reputable autoshop like the EA Autoworks and the reverse cam can be installed on the existing head unit through plug and play method.

Like so:

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Original photo by swk_sam
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Many thanks!

The existing radio/LCD unit has a plug in for reverse camera? Good! I guess things like power supply, programming to auto on when gear is in reverse etc can be easily handled by the shops.

Thanks. Good to know.
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post Sep 29 2014, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Sep 29 2014, 07:34 AM)
Horses for courses. Personally I would not recommend doing soundproofing. You may reduce the engine noise with RM1k-2k soundproofing but there will be other sound that may pop up later from inside the car(rattling of dashboard, squeaky sound from seats etc.), nullifying the soundproofing done to filter out sound from outside the car(engine, wind, tyres etc.) marring the driving enjoyment. And on top of that, when selling the car, all the cost that goes into the car will usually not be recovered.

In summary, I am just not into soundproofing or doing any sort of modifications to the car. Everything stock is best. What I think is if the car is quiet, it will be quiet. If it is noisy, it will be noisy. Similarly, I find the engine sound to be rather harsh and noisy during acceleration when compared to Japanese car. Overall NVH(wind, suspension and noise from traffic) is quite good to me. The sound from the traffic is quiet muted and the suspension does not make too much noise when going over bad roads or bumps. It is only the engine sound and CVT whine during acceleration that are slightly lacking.

As usual, horses for courses.
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Noted and thanks!

I was planning to do something to reduce the noise (the seal on the doors etc) but wondering whether it is effective, by how much etc. Anyone measured the noise level before and after?

You make a lot of sense there and I think I will just take what I have now. Ha.
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post Sep 30 2014, 11:26 AM

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I guess I must be the first one among Preve owners here. My back car plate no came off this morning. Luckily it happened at home as otherwise I would have to buy a new one!

Anyone with similar experience? They used double sided sticker tapes. Any specific arrangement for the tapes for best fix?

Also asking them to rectify my ESC light which came on twice (non blinking indicating ESC failure).

The car will not be ready till this afternoon. So they lent me their Preve demo car. Feel my new Preve is smoother, more powerful etc etc etc, Ha.


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post Sep 30 2014, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(vostro78 @ Sep 30 2014, 09:59 AM)
i just notice this preve got a special function... or now all new car comes with this, during heavy rain we switch the wiper to full speed to wipe the screen, but when car slow down and stop at traffic light, the wiper turn slow also. once i start drive the car again, the wiper turn back to full speed. it follow the driving speed?
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Have not tried that on wiper full speed to try this.

But on AUTO mode, I guess the rain sensor will sense different rain intensity (on 1 sensitivity setting) depending on whether the car is moving or not. Moving car will have more rain drops landing on the sensor.
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post Sep 30 2014, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(vincent818 @ Sep 30 2014, 11:52 AM)
where you get your car ? how long u have use your car ?
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Sarawak, less than 2 months.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Sep 30 2014, 12:37 PM)
The back number plate of my car didn't fall off but it looked very flimsy at the edges and is curved outwards. Hence I took my vehicle to the nearest service centre to have it fixed. They used higher quality 3M double-sided tapes at more locations so it is all good now. The guy mentioned most stock vehicles use lower quality (and lesser) double-sided tapes on the car plate number and that may have resulted in some number plates falling off. No specific arrangement but basically just use more of those tapes, and the higher quality ones.
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Thanks. Will ask my SA to put in more good quality stickers.

Strange that the motor service side does not handle this plate problem. Think that is SA area.
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post Sep 30 2014, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Sep 30 2014, 12:49 PM)
No problem. Yes, the SA can help you if he/she happens to have high quality 3M double-sided tape. In my case I took it to the nearest Proton service centre (since it is a waste of time to go to COSE for this small issue). If I'm not mistaken I didn't book for an appointment and just walk in. Since it is a small issue the service centre can accommodate.

I looked at the guy who is fixing the double-sided tapes on the car number plate. You may ask the guy to add more but if it is 3M double-sided plates that it should stick well. I noticed the original double-sided tapes are smaller in width compared to the thicker 3M tapes. And very few double-sided tapes are used too.

When I took the car, the car number plate is actually tilted to one side (slightly slanting position) and not exactly a perfect horizontal. The SA fixed it for me.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbnCjjNqO2A

One youtube for sharing here.

Similar to what I have in mind but I have additional 3 * 2 horizonal sticky tapes (to help the 3 vertical tapes at the 2 ends and one center).

I think I will do it myself the next time it fails. Ha.
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post Sep 30 2014, 03:27 PM

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Need help on my ESC problem.

ESC light came on (not blinking) while I was driving quite fast on a curvy road. It stayed on till I stopped the engine. On restarting the car, the ESC light did not come on. This has happened to me twice.

I sent my car to SC for my back car plate problem and also this ESC issue. They say it is faulty if the light stays on restarting the car. Mine disappeared on restarting the car.

Any one with similar incident?

My concern is this, when I need ESC to be active on slippery/curvy road, then this failure light comes up. Not available when one needs it! Catch -22 situation!

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QUOTE(vincent818 @ Sep 30 2014, 05:52 PM)
Ic , mine office also using double sided type for the plate but last for long time .

Try to call your Sa and get new for u , I think your as will give u a new one free
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Luckily the plate came off when I parked the car at home.

My SA felt bad about this and sent the car to a car shop dealing in plates to put the plate. Now it is very tight and secured. BUT they put it too high, right at the top of the frame. Maybe they did it on purpose to minimise rain water from seeping in between the plate and the car body.

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QUOTE(sanadi @ Sep 30 2014, 07:08 PM)
Did they not check the computer what is the error code? Your situation is definitely a fault of the ESC.
There are 2 things that come to mind:
1. Brake switch fault
2. Steering angle sensor fault

I am more inclined to think it is the steering angle sensor. Is your car properly aligned? When you are going straight, the steering wheel is straight, not titled to either side.

I've had ESC light error like you. Mine happens when I'm, taking a left hand curve at >80 kph. It is a gentle curve like this:

What happened was when I was taking that corner, the steering was pointing straight. The car detects that it is going left but the steering sensor says it should be going straight, hence the error. A proper realignment was all that was necessary.

If the problem still persists, the SC needs to recalibrate the steering angle sensor. The SC should be able to do it. I know Puchong SC can. I'm not sure which SC in Sarawak can do it.

Proton needs to audit the competency of their SC all across Malaysia.
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Noted and many thanks!

Agree with your last sentence. ESC initially was unknown to them till I pointed out page 68 in the manual. Later I even asked them to call KL HQ. But still no result.

He wants me to drive the car to the SC the next time I have ESC light appearing on the display. Well .......


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post Oct 1 2014, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(sanadi @ Oct 1 2014, 07:04 AM)
There's a reason why branded are a bit more expensive. Most don't use lithium batteries. They use capacitors instead. That means the risk of fire due to heat is low. Lithium batteries tend to expand after some time and they might cause fire if they over heat. Dash cam gets heat up as you park the car under the sun.

Personally I'm using Papago Go Safe 110. Acceptable video & audio. I simply park under the sun. The dash cam is placed behind the rear view mirror so it is not that obvious. I've been using it for more than 1 year and the recording is as good now as it was when new. So it handles heat well.

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Excellent!

How do you "hide" the wiring? On the dashboard or underneath it?
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post Oct 1 2014, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(sanadi @ Oct 1 2014, 07:38 AM)
On top of the head liner, through to the driver's A-Pillar, down to the foot well and then to the cigarette socket extender under the seat.

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Wah, bagus!

Does yours switch on the camera automatically when you start the engine? Or you need to switch it on manually?

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QUOTE(theonlyvin @ Oct 2 2014, 08:51 AM)
Below is one of the prevoc member that been recall for wire harness connector and gear knob...

and this is how new socket look~
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Is that for all Preve or only certain batches? Mine is only 2 months old.

Thanks.
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QUOTE(Arndt @ Oct 6 2014, 04:23 PM)
hi guys

any of you familiar with the service regulation?

My preve is 14 months old and I just sent it for the 3rd service (20k). I should be getting 3x free service labour cost. However the place I went to said that it is only applicable if it is done within 1 year (12 months). So I had to pay the labour cost (rm66).

Is it correct?
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My understanding is 3 free services within a year or 20K whichever comes first.

My mileage is low (about 1k/month) and thus my service will be via time, every 6 months after the first 1K service.

I have 8 free service vouchers. To use up all the 8 vouchers, I need to service my cars every 5.x months!

In replying to you, I learnt what I need to do to use all the 8 vouchers. Thanks, bro!

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QUOTE(Pain4UrsinZ @ Oct 6 2014, 09:57 PM)
what is that voucher actually? i thought 3 years free service ?
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It is just a memo from the SC stating the conditions for the 3 years service. They printed 8 boxes (vouchers) in that memo. They will cancel a voucher every time I go there for service. Stated amounts vary from RM97 (x3) to RM167 (x5). You don't get the same thing?


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Got Maguier's car shampoo & conditioner and washed my Preve for the first time recently. Took me about 1.5 hrs but that was with 2 cars (Preve and my wife's Wira). Tiring. Did not wipe dry the car after the washing. No unsightly mark on the body or glass even without the wipe drying step.

Put on the Rain Act the next day. Realised that was a mistake. Should do that after the washing. Why? Then I don't have to wash the glass again before applying Rain Act! Ha.

Found something on the front windscreen, at where the wiper rests on the glass. Still can't figure it out whether it is scratched glass or burnt rubber/dead insect. Tried to soak it with water and then remove it, no success. Did not use too much force as I do not want to do further damage it if it is scratched glass. The tint is on the other side (back side) of the glass, right? Then it cannot be the "burnt" tint. Hope it is just rubber or dead insects.

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Tried to enter the GPS co-ordinate for a location I want to go to. Read the manual and still cannot figure it out how to do it. The closet one I can find in the manual is the waypoint on page 43. But cannot find waypoint in the display.

Please help if you have entered GPS co-ordinates before. Thanks.

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