Looks like Saga...Mamaktir will rage...

I hope they rebadge dugong

I dont think they have a Saga replacement anytime soon. Haven't heard any news...but if it does, it will be based on the GCC platform. Imagine the GCC with boot.
There , Saga 3.0

UMW will rage

I was talking about Perodua's sedan la

why UMW rage? UMW is a major stakeholder of Perodua

Besides, rebadge the dugong oni, not the current catfish Vios. Why not?

Partially true only. If you survey around, there are people in construction sector who keeps hunting for used Kembara Manual. They must have 4WD because there is no proper road in construction site, 2WD car might get stucked. Auto is a nono since lack of torque and easy to overheat the transmission if throttle hard to get the car itself unstuck. Other options would be Hilux, Storm ,Frontier, Ranger , however replacement parts for those 4WD trucks are expensive especially the tires and suspension items. Road tax is cheap too. Therefore they prefer the Kembara whether the HC-EJ engine or the K3-VE version.

So people actually want both cheap and good

This post has been edited by k!nex: Jun 20 2014, 04:39 PM

The car the first gen Myvi was based on, the Daihatsu Sirion, came with 6 airbags and stability control IIRC in Europe.

Ayla I wouldn't expect much though, that seems like an Indonesian model.

Indonesian Ayla review. Really seems to be a barebones tin kosong variant. Doesn't even come with a rear wiper.



This post has been edited by chris2k: Jun 20 2014, 05:52 PM

saga replacement have due for soooo long already

They might have been waiting for the GSC to come out first, so that they can base the car on that? Like with the Savvy. Also that way maybe they iron out a few flaws?

lets hope so
have been waiting saga replacement for so long

Don't chickens before they roost.

Even if Iriz can beat myvi/axia, it is best not to tell it immediately to catch the competition off guard

Bought the original Savvy, before the redesign. The manual version, built very tough. Rough but tough. I think the most sought after small city car is actually the Kelisa.


Suprima is a step up from Preve.

Things that can learn from Suprima:

If this Iriz has proper keyless and a HU unit that does not reset every time you start the car, that alone is a huge win. If can have Waze even better. But need to address the car radio not remembering where the last track was. Suprima drivers can tolerate the keyless and other small stuff, but the HU is the biggest letdown in a car that is almost complete in all aspects. Hence my quest to find a uber radio. Compared to normal non-android radio, this is a big step. Not everyone can change the radio wallpaper everday.


I already see the proper keyless entry. That alone has surpassed Suprima. Not sure if they fixed the android unit though.

If the baseline is the SV option, than so be it. However, I agree this is not the route to follow. Though I do hope it will be earlier than this Axia. Maybe just after raya is a good time. If it is after Axia, then need to have stuff which entice people towards Iriz.

Might pick up one myself for the wife....or maybe using her as a reason to buy the car

Just chat with a friend who is Proton Edar Sales Manager.

P2-30A will come in three variants.
The top variant shall be 1.6litre, 6 airbags, ESC, and expect to be 50k++, CVT only

He isn't too sure about the standard and executive specs though, but he remembered that it will be manual/CVT for each variants, the number of airbags should be 2 only and the he isn't sure the availability of ESC in this two variants.

Top variant for 50k plus only? Sounds like a nail in the coffin for the 1.5 Myvi Extreme.

Judging from spyshots of the touchscreen and non-touchscreen head unit, at least 2 variants would have ESC. A little bit wonky of Proton to only include 2 airbags for the other variants, seeing how the Preve has 6 airbags across the range.

That's disappointing. It should be 6 airbags and ESC across the range. Stuff like alloy rims can be dropped, no bodykit, simple radio... just don't sacrifice safety. Though I guess in Malaysia safety is the first thing you should drop, cause people don't care.

The sales manager is talking sense.

gearbox has to be CVT. That is the current trend now. Optimum engine power.

Perodua got 2 airbags what. Airbags cost money, so making it cheap to appeal to everyone is a good strategy.

This post has been edited by mystvearn: Jun 22 2014, 06:33 AM

CVT is the gearbox

I know, I know. Again, in Malaysia safety doesn't matter. I can understand if they go for lower safety standards in the low spec car. However I'd argue that that might be short sighted and may not be that beneficial in the end.

Proton could focus their marketing strategy around safety. But they'll look like hypocrites if only the highest spec is actually good. Also, people have been burnt by the Preve first offering 2 and 4 airbags, and suddenly within a year or so even the entry level car surpasses the previous highest spec car. If Proton now announces the GSC with 2 airbags and no stability control, some people may hold out or just get something else, as they think they're going to get shafted. ASEAN NCAP may only test the low spec car, thus achieving a not so good result. Good luck trying to tell everyone that the highest spec is actually a much safer car. If you stress that, people will complain why Proton doesn't care about the safety of the people. If you don't, people will think better buy other brand.

Airbags aren't that expensive, and if only the highest spec has all the airbags, economies of scale aren't that good. The savings may not be that great by going for 2 airbags.

Not sure about the CVT. It is often times criticized, rightfully or not. Why not something like a 6 speed torque converter, say the Aisin unit VW uses in the Polo Sedan? They can say Toyota gearbox, but more advanced than what Perodua and Toyota use. Also with a modern 6 speed torque converter the FC shouldn't be too bad. And it feels nicer to drive.

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Jun 21 2014, 10:35 PM

Someone mixed up between VVT and CVT.....


kadajawi, just wait for the official news. I also hope that 6 airbags / ESC to be made standard soon.
Perhaps mat79 may have the answer you looking for.

This post has been edited by allenultra: Jun 21 2014, 10:47 PM

Shafted is the right word. What happened with the initial Preve buyers. The main reason I'm interested in the GSC is 6 airbags + ESC + ABS + all the other acronyms.

If the 1.6 is going to be CVT only that's a real bummer because I prefer a manual one any day. Didn't Proton realise after launching Suprima that some people actually want a manual transmission?

If on top of that not all variants have the full safety package, I'd probably look at something else. Even the manual Picanto comes with 6 airbags AND all-around discs, FWIW.

Then again from experience, information from SA/manager isn't necessarily accurate so I'll wait till the launch to decide.