sounds legit

thats news allen, i knew that the new perodua will eventually replacing viva,but not that sooner. but based on the price bracket,it seems it will replace viva asap cuz the viva price just being reduced due to cost saving measurements(as they said), n the new perodua price is at the new viva pricing.

unless the new viva pricing is stock clearence,then,it seems viva being kill by its own product then.

the pricing between 26k to 40k is a rightful price for new a segment perodua. iinm,its siblings in indonesia only use 1 engine option that is new 1 l engine.

previously i thought the price will be around 1.0 l viva, around 35k to 45k. it seems that perodua really want this p2 new baby to go head to head with gcc.

thats good actually. this means prtn marketing teams need to come out with something special.

n i hope,even the price war strategy seems favouring perodua,proton n drb shud stick to the plan,even baseline has all the passive safety equipments,of course,the numbers of airbags will be reduced to 2,but others still intact.

just afraid the board taking any radical movement to offer just a basic offering. thats what happened so many times previously, hope they do it right this time.

dont waste the effort done by rnd team.

kadajawi,of course everything is done to surpass suprima, but in safety aspect,even toyota n bimmer missed the mark even during the dev stage,it aces all the required test.

thats why i rather compare gcc with other prtn,rather than other marques.

and i do hope gcc will be launch sooner than new perodua or at the same time. easier to people in making comparison even its not apple to apple comparison.

@mat79: Are you talking about BMW and Toyota not doing well in the small overlap test? I doubt these cars were ever meant for a small overlap test. And to be competitive Proton only needs to do well on regular 40% overlap tests.

Not sure Proton should even try to compete with the Viva/Viva successor. How could they? It's a smaller car, made much cheaper and probably nowhere near as safe. It should compete with the Myvi, and that's it. And ideally it comes with full safety specs in all cars, because that way there's no chance of a crash test involving a car that only has 2 airbags, thus ending up with a not so good result. I doubt the general public will differentiate and say oh, the higher spec car is safe, the lower one isn't.

haiyooo even the name of the car they also cannot make up their mind? keep changing and made others confused

The car looks nice...hope the price is ok.

i like the front looks but not the back and C-pillar of this car...
about price i already mentioned in my previous comment... they asked us to tick which price range we willing to pay for this car and it started from 50k-60k... hope it will be cheaper that that since this is our own local car.. but who knows since DR M already said want to change strategy from being maker of cheap cars to become world-class carmaker...
http://paultan.org/2014/06/09/proton-change-strategy-dr-m/

This post has been edited by one81: Jun 20 2014, 09:35 AM

@kadajawi,nope,previously,some of the cars didnt get full starts,they had to revise it n after that they manage to get flying colors. its not a big thing by the way,just want to point even test were done extensively,still in the end,we are human,nothing perfect though.

the code still the same,never change, p230a. gsc or gcc its not a code or its official name.

there r some a segment being benchmark models,but not viva or viva replacements of course.

the gcc will cater the a n b segment for prtn. it wont be financially wise for prtn to come out with another a segment car.since the next b sedan segment will be based from gcc.

c segment already have preve n suprima. the only thing left is d segment.

there wont be too many b segments as previous such savvy,saga,gen2 n persona. not profitable in long run. so,they put out lot of effort on gcc,so that the next b sedan,supposed to replace saga,it will also cater the the gen2 n persona spot. meaning that,it will be a direct competitor with other b segment sedan,rather than just another cheap alternative to other b segments.

instead just come out with many new cars, focusing on segments.

gen2/persona are C segment actually, not really B segment if you ask me.

when I met one of the Perodua directors 2 months back, he mentioned it will be end of the year for new Viva and the news I received yesterday, is even months earlier.
Perodua does worry of the GSC/GCC as during the monthly dealer briefing, the National Dealer Development head strongly emphasized on "rationalism" strategy to improve all branches/dealers corporate image, facilities so that their share of pie will not be stolen by Proton and any other manufacturers out there.

Yes, the truth is P1 and P2 doesn't differ much, although P2 fans will always try to say that P1 is poorer. I feel that the hate for P1 is due to the fact that it's the first national car maker and used to have brush-brush relationship with the federal government.

To deny that the GCC will eat into P2 sales would be naive. If priced at the same range, but GCC having a more complete safety package plus amazing driveability (Lotus assisted in the design afterall), I'm sure rational car buyers would definately favour the GCC over the existing P2 offerings, which in the direct sense, the myvi.

All in all, I always see these as positive things to happen. To have competition amongst the car makers will only benefit us buyers in the long run. I mean, WHEN will P2 finally offer complete safety packages in their cars? Now with the GCC, perhaps this will happen sooner. So it's always good to have healthy competition and pressure for the car makers.

This post has been edited by bananadriver: Jun 20 2014, 10:20 AM

Perodua AXIA is coming mah...Daihatsu Ayla. Not sure if it's VIVA or MAWI replacement.

But P2 can't offer anything which Daihatsu doesn't....because they don't design cars...unless Daihatsu offers the same safety features, all P2 can do is more facelift to appease AhBeng market.

Although Gen2/Persona actually a C segment size during it launch, but the spec level is not really up to the segment. I always perceive the persona is B segment car with it prices.

Anyway it is good to know that Proton is eliminating A segment, and focus on GCC to fill both A and B compact cars segment. To do this, they must have lot of variants. I'm a bit worried that it will compromise safety equipments. Just hoping that the base variant will have at least 2 airbags and ESC. If not, Proton just putting their effort on emphasizing safety on their recent products back to drain. Because they can no longer advertise their product is best in safety in 1 product regardless variant, without much explanation on safety kits.

B segment sedan (probably saga R), probably the first B segment global sedan for proton.

I'm not sure i read somewhere that Perodua already had their RnD department (the real one), and will start operating in 2018. Well, at least can start with shared platform and engine.

It took Proton 17 years after establishment to get their first in house product (Proton Waja). Perodua was establish in 1993, now is 2014 still no news about their own in house product.

This post has been edited by ruffstuff: Jun 20 2014, 10:36 AM

being the 2nd, younger child in the family grants immunities from harsh expectations usually.
being the 2nd national car maker, and still being perceived as "young" has always been the excuse for P2.
those who has younger brothers will understand

Btw, a news that I just remembered. The executive who I met yesterday mentioned that Perodua sedan will arrive next year.

Proton will need Saga replacement for that.

probably going to be a hatchback converted into sedan type. Daihatsu likes to do this (so another Daihatsu model coming?) Recent examples would be Mitsubishi's mirage converted into the attrage. BTW is Perodua still selling that Perodua Nautica?

Daihatsu Ayla sedan (photoshop pic)


This post has been edited by bananadriver: Jun 20 2014, 11:28 AM

This going to get very interesting.

They stopped selling Nautica since Toyota bring in Rush. To be honest, car buyers don't care about AWD, all they want is cheaper prices, thus causing the Nautica sales to plummet drastically.