QUOTE(dares @ Jun 21 2014, 10:28 PM)
ah my badHot Stuff Proton GSC with butt picture
Hot Stuff Proton GSC with butt picture
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Jun 22 2014, 06:33 AM
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Jun 22 2014, 08:31 AM
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QUOTE(chris2k @ Jun 21 2014, 11:12 PM) Shafted is the right word. What happened with the initial Preve buyers. The main reason I'm interested in the GSC is 6 airbags + ESC + ABS + all the other acronyms. Bro, the some people who prefer manuals are few and far between. Maybe only some people here in fnf...in the real world the demand is very little. If proton dont offer manual, I think they do the right thing. ..less cost to test another variation and support and maintenance issues. But they might offer manual of this car is to be targeted globally.If the 1.6 is going to be CVT only that's a real bummer because I prefer a manual one any day. Didn't Proton realise after launching Suprima that some people actually want a manual transmission? If on top of that not all variants have the full safety package, I'd probably look at something else. Even the manual Picanto comes with 6 airbags AND all-around discs, FWIW. Then again from experience, information from SA/manager isn't necessarily accurate so I'll wait till the launch to decide. Even the new honda city dont have manual anymore. It just doeant makes business sense in the local market. This post has been edited by Matrix: Jun 22 2014, 08:33 AM |
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Jun 22 2014, 03:32 PM
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Hopefully the interior will be better in terms of quality. But the design looks great
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Jun 22 2014, 05:53 PM
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Jun 22 2014, 06:16 PM
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i also like the manual trans. it just depend on the market. theres rumours that premium cvt also featuring paddle shift. yup,it cant replace the manual excitement,but atleast,a remedy.
we may like manual,but maybe the market demand more on auto box. especially the premium version of any car. there r many others dont offer manual in malaysia,but offer it to our neighbouring countries. maybe msian market is auto oriented driver. just wait n see whether they will come out manual variant for 1.6. the ipanel seems better than sid in preve@suprima. |
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Jun 22 2014, 06:34 PM
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Fingers crossed. Waiting for the launch...
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Jun 22 2014, 07:03 PM
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Jun 22 2014, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Jun 22 2014, 06:16 PM) i also like the manual trans. it just depend on the market. theres rumours that premium cvt also featuring paddle shift. yup,it cant replace the manual excitement,but atleast,a remedy. In Europe auto gearboxes are usually a RM 7-12k option (plus it is not offered on all engine options, so you may not get the most powerful engine or you may not be able to get the smallest engine), only on something like the S class is an auto gearbox standard.we may like manual,but maybe the market demand more on auto box. especially the premium version of any car. there r many others dont offer manual in malaysia,but offer it to our neighbouring countries. maybe msian market is auto oriented driver. just wait n see whether they will come out manual variant for 1.6. the ipanel seems better than sid in preve@suprima. |
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Jun 22 2014, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jun 22 2014, 08:25 PM) In Europe auto gearboxes are usually a RM 7-12k option (plus it is not offered on all engine options, so you may not get the most powerful engine or you may not be able to get the smallest engine), only on something like the S class is an auto gearbox standard. That's Europe. In BolehLand, it does difference somehow especially when Driving License (automatic cars only) will be introduced in the market soon. The demand for manual transmission vehicle in Malaysia? Certainly consider as niche market if you ask me. For a manufacturer who with limited budget, they better concentrate on something that could really sell. |
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Jun 22 2014, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Jun 22 2014, 08:35 PM) That's Europe. In BolehLand, it does difference somehow especially when Driving License (automatic cars only) will be introduced in the market soon. So I gather a 250Nm Suprima S MT is a long lost dream? The demand for manual transmission vehicle in Malaysia? Certainly consider as niche market if you ask me. For a manufacturer who with limited budget, they better concentrate on something that could really sell. This post has been edited by dares: Jun 22 2014, 08:39 PM |
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Jun 22 2014, 08:41 PM
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Jun 22 2014, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Jun 22 2014, 08:35 PM) That's Europe. In BolehLand, it does difference somehow especially when Driving License (automatic cars only) will be introduced in the market soon. I am aware of that. I was just trying to explain why cars are offered with a manual gearbox overseas. It is cheaper, and people prefer it anyway.The demand for manual transmission vehicle in Malaysia? Certainly consider as niche market if you ask me. For a manufacturer who with limited budget, they better concentrate on something that could really sell. Of course Malaysians generally don't like manual. I think that has also to do with the manual cars you do get to drive. You learn driving on a manual Kancil or Viva, and let me guess, they are dreadful? If Malaysians were to learn on a manual conti it might be different. They are easy to drive, the gearbox itself is fun, the clutch is light and good, ... yes it still takes some effort to learn it, but it's not so bad. I've driven a manual Myvi, and thought it was so bad that I could understand the preference for auto for once. |
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Jun 22 2014, 08:42 PM
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Jun 22 2014, 08:44 PM
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Jun 22 2014, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jun 22 2014, 08:42 PM) I am aware of that. I was just trying to explain why cars are offered with a manual gearbox overseas. It is cheaper, and people prefer it anyway. If Malaysians use bluetooth/wired headset all the time they drive, I do think manual is a good option to go with. Of course Malaysians generally don't like manual. I think that has also to do with the manual cars you do get to drive. You learn driving on a manual Kancil or Viva, and let me guess, they are dreadful? If Malaysians were to learn on a manual conti it might be different. They are easy to drive, the gearbox itself is fun, the clutch is light and good, ... yes it still takes some effort to learn it, but it's not so bad. I've driven a manual Myvi, and thought it was so bad that I could understand the preference for auto for once. Till then, not really. Most Malaysians are not educated to be multi-tasking, that's the reality here. What I seen in Malaysia, manual transmission mostly available in commercial vehicles. At least Hilux is the manual vehicle that I'm driving frequently lately. |
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Jun 22 2014, 08:53 PM
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Jun 22 2014, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jun 22 2014, 08:44 PM) Not necessarily, if they will offer the Suprima in Europe. They may not offer it in Malaysia, but they will have to offer it. In my simplistic thinking, if they are going to manufacture those units anyway, it really isn't going to cost them much more to assign X number of units to the domestic market, according to bookings. |
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Jun 22 2014, 10:35 PM
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I can only hope that they (Prtn) is stalling the launch for GCC because they want everything to be really ready and perfect. But if launching this GCC already takes considerable time, I wonder if P1 will still be able to meet their target by launching their first hybrid car and the new Perdana (read: Accordana) by end of next year and Q1 2016.
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Jun 23 2014, 04:17 AM
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Jun 22 2014, 08:53 PM) Gearbox sudah problem....... I thought a prototype with CFE and 6MT was spotted a while ago? They will also need it for the European market, if they chose to introduce it there. (What is taking them so long? At least in the UK? If it takes much longer the car will be outdated by the time it is introduced...).He switched back to stock downpipe now. I thought Suprima S 6MT will be introduced in Aussie market? And yup, I think so too. Should be no problem introducing it in Malaysia too. |
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Jun 23 2014, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jun 23 2014, 04:17 AM) I thought a prototype with CFE and 6MT was spotted a while ago? They will also need it for the European market, if they chose to introduce it there. (What is taking them so long? At least in the UK? If it takes much longer the car will be outdated by the time it is introduced...). It took them long to get the 6MT suprima to market. Im not so sure why, but i think maybe they need to calibrate performance vs emission? And yup, I think so too. Should be no problem introducing it in Malaysia too. |
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