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post Jun 12 2014, 01:55 PM, updated 5y ago

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Princess Cove @ Tanjung Puteri is the upcoming mega residential project in Iskandar Tanjung Puteri, Johor Bahru. Located next to the upcoming Tanjung Puteri MRT Interchange, this development will be the gateway to Iskandar via MRT direct from Singapore. Developer Guangzhou R&F  plans to launch 15 blocks of 35-storey apartment buildings under phase 1 in the second half of this year, which implies an enormous 3,150 units of apartments, assuming six units per floor.
I think this is guarantee win investment.

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post Jun 12 2014, 01:58 PM

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apa info this project got? share plox
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post Jun 12 2014, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ Jun 12 2014, 01:58 PM)
apa info this project got? share plox
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Studio unit 500k only. Damn cheap
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post Jun 12 2014, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jun 12 2014, 02:11 PM)
Studio unit 500k only. Damn cheap
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whoa then what will happen to current devs there. 500k for 500-600 sf?

others selling what, 1.1 - 1.35k psf?
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post Jun 12 2014, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ Jun 12 2014, 02:13 PM)
whoa then what will happen to current devs there. 500k for 500-600 sf?

others selling what, 1.1 - 1.35k psf?
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Yes, other selling up to 1500psf.

Princess Cove 1st phase selling at 1000psf.

CHEAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post Jun 12 2014, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jun 12 2014, 02:19 PM)
Yes, other selling up to 1500psf.

Princess Cove 1st phase selling at 1000psf.

CHEAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ooooooo location mana boss
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post Jun 12 2014, 02:25 PM

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ooooooo location mana boss
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post Jun 19 2014, 11:21 PM

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wow, selling 1000psf. It is cheaper than Tri tower, Astaka, Sky88.
may I know,
when is pre-launch date?
any project details?
good buy?

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post Jun 19 2014, 11:48 PM

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post Jun 20 2014, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jun 12 2014, 12:55 PM)
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I think this is guarantee win investment.

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Hi gogo taikor where to register and y u say it's good investment . Care to share taikor sir ?
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post Jun 20 2014, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(gordan76 @ Jun 20 2014, 09:03 AM)
Hi gogo taikor where to register and y u say it's good investment . Care to share taikor sir ?
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This is at the old CIQ. This place is as near as you get to Singapore. Some more got MRT direct to Singapore. This is like buying in Singapore but at Iskandar price.

Price is around RM1kpsf. I think will fully sold out when launched. Better be quick.
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post Jun 20 2014, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(MyDreamLand @ Jun 19 2014, 11:21 PM)
wow, selling 1000psf. It is cheaper than Tri tower, Astaka, Sky88.
may I know,
when is pre-launch date?
any project details?
good buy?
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The best buy ever. RM1kpsf is indicative only. They might raise it because surrouding already selling about RM1.5kpsf.
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post Jun 20 2014, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(MyDreamLand @ Jun 19 2014, 11:21 PM)
wow, selling 1000psf. It is cheaper than Tri tower, Astaka, Sky88.
may I know,
when is pre-launch date?
any project details?
good buy?
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QUOTE(gordan76 @ Jun 20 2014, 09:03 AM)
Hi gogo taikor where to register and y u say it's good investment . Care to share taikor sir ?
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Wah cheap !! Buy buy
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post Jun 20 2014, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(littlewing @ Jun 20 2014, 10:26 AM)
Wah cheap !! Buy buy
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Start queueing now. BBB rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif
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post Jun 20 2014, 11:33 AM

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How long will it takes for the whole project to be fully developed or mature ? 15 years later ( 2029 ) ?
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How long will it takes for the whole project to be fully developed or mature ? 15 years later ( 2029 ) ?
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If the staggered launched every 3 years, I think yes. So buy Phase 1 now. If not, regret blush.gif

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Hong Kong's R&F Properties to unveil Johor project

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PETALING JAYA: Set to be a landmark property development in Tanjung Puteri, Johor, phase one of R&F Princess Cove will see the construction of about 15 blocks of luxury apartments by Hong Kong-based R&F Properties Co Ltd.

R&F Properties had bought the 116 acres of land at RM4.5bil in a deal involving the Johor royalty late last year.

On a per-sq-ft basis, the prime land values at more than RM890, making it the second most highly priced land in the city, trailing closely behind another China-based firm that had bought 37 acres of land in Danga Bay for RM991 per sq ft.

The whole R&F Princess Cove project would unveil an enormous integrated development in line with the current trend in Johor that has attracted streams of Chinese developers into the new growth area adjacent to Singapore.

Investors are betting on the economic development spurred by the establishment of Iskandar Malaysia and the upcoming rapid transit system between Johor Baru and Singapore.

Checks with the company revealed that the launching of phase 1 is slated for mid-July, while the sales gallery would be ready for a big-splash opening this Saturday.

Part of phase one ready to be booked in July would comprise 400 units of apartments built on four blocks of 30-35 storeys.

The company plans to develop 15 blocks of apartments in phase one.

Recent launches in Nusajaya, Medini, Danga Bay and Johor Baru showed that prices were in the range of RM600 to RM1,000 per sq ft, with prime units fetching RM1,500 per sq ft.

R&F Properties, listed on the Hong Kong stock exchange, has a series of iconic developments on its portfolio, mostly in China, and Malaysia would be its first foreign project.

The company, with over 20 years of experience in property development, has been involved in the building of classical bungalows, grade-A office towers and five-star hotels.

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jun 20 2014, 09:31 AM)
Start queueing now. BBB  rclxms.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Tomm launching ?
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post Jun 20 2014, 12:14 PM

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Tomm launching ?
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Yes launching sales gallery. Can pay under table booking already rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jun 20 2014, 12:14 PM)
Yes launching sales gallery. Can pay under table booking already  rclxm9.gif
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BUY BUY BUY again .... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(putraperdana @ Jun 20 2014, 12:28 PM)
BUY BUY BUY again .... rclxms.gif
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yes bro. This is a BUY BUY BUY. rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif
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post Jun 20 2014, 12:42 PM

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Called them up . Service apartment 300+ units for phase 1, downstairs got shopping mall ( shop lot for sale too, but later) . 400-1400 sqft to choose from, price rm1000psf.

Got launching event in KL too, 27th. Menara worldwide
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QUOTE(maldiniho @ Jun 20 2014, 12:42 PM)
Called them up . Service apartment 300+ units for phase 1, downstairs got shopping mall ( shop lot for sale too, but later) . 400-1400 sqft to choose from, price rm1000psf.

Got launching event in KL too, 27th. Menara worldwide
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Bro you buying? Wanna be neighbor?
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RM10,000 for booking. Lai lai lai...
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jun 20 2014, 12:53 PM)
Bro you buying? Wanna be neighbor?
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Neighbour not quite. But very interested to invest there. Has always been thinking about buying there since market is relatively more sustainable than KL where my props are .

Is the MRT CONFIRMED ? I forgot to ask the girl juz now tongue.gif
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QUOTE(maldiniho @ Jun 20 2014, 12:56 PM)
Neighbour not quite. But very interested to invest there. Has always been thinking about buying there since market is relatively more sustainable than KL where my props are .

Is the MRT CONFIRMED ?  I forgot to ask the girl juz now tongue.gif
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Since Sultan is involved, I believe everything is confirmed. But of course there is risk. tongue.gif
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gogo2 the gal told me that tomorrow JB event is strictly preview only, no booking. Though I took it with a pinch of salt. hmm.gif

Only saw this thread today, so if they really open for booking tomorrow then I can only watch and sob cry.gif
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QUOTE(maldiniho @ Jun 20 2014, 12:59 PM)
gogo2 the gal told me that tomorrow JB event is strictly preview only, no booking. Though I took it with a pinch of salt. hmm.gif

Only saw this thread today, so if they really open for booking tomorrow then I can only watch and sob cry.gif
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Can pay under table. tongue.gif rclxms.gif

Real booking is Mid July.


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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jun 12 2014, 02:55 PM)
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I think this is guarantee win investment.

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Bro what make you say "guarantee investment" kindly share with us thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(yojbgi @ Jun 20 2014, 01:04 PM)
Bro what make you say "guarantee investment" kindly share with us thumbup.gif
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Location normally guaranteed investment...

although actually nothing is guaranteed... sorry if I put the wrong word there sweat.gif
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fully finished with good quality?
Come with marble floor tiles, timber flooring, kitchen cabinet, wardrobe, furniture for 1000psf? tongue.gif

1000psf, it almost on par with KL price. rental market will be a very big big ???? hmm.gif


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QUOTE(maldiniho @ Jun 20 2014, 12:56 PM)
Neighbour not quite. But very interested to invest there. Has always been thinking about buying there since market is relatively more sustainable than KL where my props are .

Is the MRT CONFIRMED ?  I forgot to ask the girl juz now tongue.gif
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Jb property more sustainable than kl? Thats very suprising. Thought is the other way round? Mostly those who bought jb high end properties are singaporean. But later will they stay there? Or who are the potential tenant?
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Jun 21 2014, 04:00 AM)
Jb property more sustainable than kl? Thats very suprising. Thought is the other way round? Mostly those who bought jb high end properties are singaporean. But later will they stay there? Or who are the potential tenant?
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Rent to ppl earning SGD, Singapore is regional hub for most of MNCs. Comparing to KL.... smile.gif
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rental can cover bank interest ? Medini condo rental now Rm 1200-1500 per month those condo will cost u Rm600-800k..

low yield..
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Should be higher than that. My fren rented out his unit with rental that can even cover his own house loan smile.gif
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Went there today... Can book already but they giv 3 option if u don't get option 1 then there is option 2 or 3...sounds funny. Booking is 10K... ( Tentatively around 800 - 1000k/sqft . discount or promotion will only know on offical launched date which she mention 28/6/14
Sales girl said mrt station at tanjung puteri is not confirmed...sales gallery show 874sqft, 1079sqft and another 1074 sqft. Lots of big taikors with big cars at the event.
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post Jun 22 2014, 02:04 AM

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sibeh funny. sorry chinese version...

http://cforum.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=vi...&extra=page%3D2

金海湾碧桂园 vs 新加坡 : 鸡蛋碰石头

http://cforum.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=378

金海湾碧桂园老板曾为中国首富, 当然, 独具慧眼, 算盘无双.

依斯干达特区, 最黄金地带, 1 亩, 叫价 3千万.

一年前, 金海湾碧桂园老总, 算来算去, 与其用黄金去买地, 不如, 自己去制造黄金地带. 所以, 策划在新马第二通道, 填个 5000 亩的恐龙岛, 名为森林城市 ( Forest City ).

这样的计划, 新山也有前科, 名叫水上浮城 ( Waterfront City ). 当年, 洪礼壁就在新山最优美的情人海边, 打起一支又一支结实的桩. 至今, 还是有人, 不断的怀疑, 洪礼壁的审美观.

金海湾碧桂园老总, 经商手腕一流. 但, 他也许不知, 马来西亚是月亮国. 而, 月有阴晴圆缺, 国有三法, 王法, 伊斯兰法和宪法.

金海湾碧桂园老总, 或许也不知, 新山跟新加坡, 长久以来, 都存在着一种, 吃不到葡萄的 “ 新新关系 “.

金海湾碧桂园的恐龙岛, 震动新加坡.

一. 新加坡告状到马来西亚外交部, 也告状到纳吉耳边.

二. 新加坡也可告状到国际法庭.

三. 凭, 新加坡李家父子, 经营了几十年的中国关系, 新加坡也可告状到中国中南海.

四. 金海湾碧桂园的单位的买家, 20% 是新加坡人. 除非, 这20% 新加坡人, 不准备回新加坡, 否则, 新加坡政府总会有点对策.

五. 金海湾碧桂园的单位的买家, 40% 是马来西亚人. 但, 金海湾碧桂园老总, 大概没有去统计这40% 的马来西亚人, 有多少是新加坡的永久居民, 有多少是新加坡的马劳. 除非, 这些新加坡的永久居民跟马劳, 不准备回新加坡, 否则, 新加坡政府总会有点对策.

看来, 金海湾碧桂园, 不是在造恐龙岛, 而是在造恐龙蛋.

金海湾碧桂园, 想, 单方面, 改变, 依斯干达特区的游戏规则, 动用 190 亿, 去鸡蛋碰石头, 到底, 划不划算呢 ?

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post Jun 24 2014, 01:23 PM

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good buy!
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post Jun 24 2014, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Jun 23 2014, 10:49 PM)
sibeh funny. sorry chinese version...

http://cforum.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=vi...&extra=page%3D2

金海湾碧桂园 vs 新加坡 : 鸡蛋碰石头

http://cforum.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=378

金海湾碧桂园老板曾为中国首富, 当然, 独具慧眼, 算盘无双.

依斯干达特区, 最黄金地带, 1 亩, 叫价 3千万.

一年前, 金海湾碧桂园老总, 算来算去, 与其用黄金去买地, 不如, 自己去制造黄金地带. 所以, 策划在新马第二通道, 填个 5000 亩的恐龙岛, 名为森林城市 ( Forest City ).

这样的计划, 新山也有前科, 名叫水上浮城 ( Waterfront City ). 当年, 洪礼壁就在新山最优美的情人海边, 打起一支又一支结实的桩. 至今, 还是有人, 不断的怀疑, 洪礼壁的审美观.

金海湾碧桂园老总, 经商手腕一流. 但, 他也许不知, 马来西亚是月亮国. 而, 月有阴晴圆缺, 国有三法, 王法, 伊斯兰法和宪法.

金海湾碧桂园老总, 或许也不知, 新山跟新加坡, 长久以来, 都存在着一种, 吃不到葡萄的 “ 新新关系 “.

金海湾碧桂园的恐龙岛, 震动新加坡.

一. 新加坡告状到马来西亚外交部, 也告状到纳吉耳边.

二. 新加坡也可告状到国际法庭.

三. 凭, 新加坡李家父子, 经营了几十年的中国关系, 新加坡也可告状到中国中南海.

四. 金海湾碧桂园的单位的买家, 20% 是新加坡人. 除非, 这20% 新加坡人, 不准备回新加坡, 否则, 新加坡政府总会有点对策.

五. 金海湾碧桂园的单位的买家, 40% 是马来西亚人. 但, 金海湾碧桂园老总, 大概没有去统计这40% 的马来西亚人, 有多少是新加坡的永久居民, 有多少是新加坡的马劳. 除非, 这些新加坡的永久居民跟马劳, 不准备回新加坡, 否则, 新加坡政府总会有点对策.

看来, 金海湾碧桂园, 不是在造恐龙岛, 而是在造恐龙蛋.

金海湾碧桂园, 想, 单方面, 改变, 依斯干达特区的游戏规则, 动用 190 亿, 去鸡蛋碰石头, 到底, 划不划算呢  ?
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post Jun 30 2014, 09:44 PM

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In johor this place. Got many law. Got royal law, Islam law, civil law. N also sing law may change to against those PR at Singapore plan to stay at the other side... Money only spend at johor but not in Singapore.

May go titanic jialat because of all these law things.

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where is the nearest existing MRT station to this project? is it marsiling station?

and where is the proposed MRT station? location? distance to site and also anticipated completion date of the station?

thanks.
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js viewed the showroom last week, it seems very plastic look for the interior design, especially the door skirting & feature wall ...
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where is the nearest existing MRT station to this project? is it  marsiling station?

and where is the proposed MRT station? location? distance to site and also anticipated completion date of the station?

thanks.
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Links to new Thomson line. Direct to CBD of Singapore. Location of nearest future station next to Republic Polytechnic in Singapore. Location of station in JB is unknown. Station completion is likely in 2020-2021.
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js viewed the showroom last week, it seems very plastic look for the interior design, especially the door skirting & feature wall ...
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http://rfmalaysia.com/en/gallery/tanjung-puteri/

pics look different again..looks better now but still has the high density HK feel... they should construct the towers with different heights like CG danga bay..
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Here was the email indicating that the project is pending for sale.. know anyone interested ah??

Hi All,

Sorry for the slow update as the Princess Cove launch has been pushed back. Below are some of the features that residents can expect at Princess Cove.
The Princess Cove Phase 1 will be built on existing land (not reclaimed) nearest to the Johor Bahru CIQ building. It will a mixed development with a large commercial podium below and residential blocks above. Each unit will be equipped with double glazed windows that dramatically reduce noise and heat from entering the apartment as well as advanced security digital locks and intercom systems. All the facilities will be on the 4th level above the commercial podium and accessible by residents only.

Indicative prices for Phase 1 is approximately RM1000 PSF.
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1k psf is not reasonable
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1k psf is not reasonable
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not reasonable given the density and rubbish views that one can expect.. maybe they got 10-15% discount than ok la.. Greenland Jade palace is 730 psf..
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Here was the email indicating that the project is pending for sale.. know anyone interested ah??

Hi All,

Sorry for the slow update as the Princess Cove launch has been pushed back. Below are some of the features that residents can expect at Princess Cove.
The Princess Cove Phase 1 will be built on existing land (not reclaimed) nearest to the Johor Bahru CIQ building. It will a mixed development with a large commercial podium below and residential blocks above. Each unit will be equipped with double glazed windows that dramatically reduce noise and heat from entering the apartment as well as advanced security digital locks and intercom systems. All the facilities will be on the 4th level above the commercial podium and accessible by residents only.

Indicative prices for Phase 1 is approximately RM1000 PSF.
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I tot launch today?!?! No?
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I tot launch today?!?! No?
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No bro they don't have the permit to sell units.. they pushed it back abit.. I registered so ill keep u guys updated!
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Dun understand. Please give some summary
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30,000 unit..... can finish bor??
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talked to some Johorians in my last trip there. They fear it will be a ghost town, simliar like belwo

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-26/c...-buildings.html


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QUOTE(Babizz @ Jul 19 2014, 04:52 PM)
No bro they don't have the permit to sell units.. they pushed it back abit.. I registered so ill keep u guys updated!
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Ehhh the other forum said mountain ppl mountain sea woh... ballot somemore today....
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QUOTE(Clueless07 @ Jul 19 2014, 05:21 PM)
talked to some Johorians in my last trip there. They fear it will be a ghost town, simliar like belwo

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-26/c...-buildings.html
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Malaysia also doesnt have so many ghost ; D
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QUOTE(Clueless07 @ Jul 19 2014, 03:21 AM)
talked to some Johorians in my last trip there. They fear it will be a ghost town, simliar like belwo

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-26/c...-buildings.html
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35k in r&f princess cove
10k in CG danga bay
3k in Greenland jade palace

They really should build this many condos in KL because KL can afford to absorb such high numbers but not in JB
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Ehhh the other forum said mountain ppl mountain sea woh... ballot somemore today....
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Which forum ah? I see the Singaporeans hating on this project!
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Which forum ah? I see the Singaporeans hating on this project!
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Which forum ah? I see the Singaporeans hating on this project!
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I heard sg lang buy non stop woh. May be love n hate thingy kua
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I heard sg lang buy non stop woh. May be love n hate thingy kua
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35k in r&f princess cove
10k in CG danga bay
3k in Greenland jade palace

They really should build this many condos in KL because KL can afford to absorb such high numbers but not in JB
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No no pls. KL already too many. Occupancy rate is low.
Please don't

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No no pls. KL already too many. Occupancy rate is low.
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need more middle class condo's in KV.. most of d low occupancy ones can't be absorbed by d market cos not enough rich ppl to buy..

anyone went for Greenland's preview?

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Jul 20 2014, 11:03 AM)
need more middle class condo's in KV.. most of d low occupancy ones can't be absorbed by d market cos not enough rich ppl to buy..

anyone went for Greenland's preview?
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Problem is middle income buyer dont want middle class condo. They want middle class income buy higher class or luxury condo.....tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Jul 19 2014, 05:36 PM)
35k in r&f princess cove
10k in CG danga bay
3k in Greenland jade palace

They really should build this many condos in KL because KL can afford to absorb such high numbers but not in JB
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Still got Tropicana Danga Bay...... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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Still got Tropicana Danga Bay...... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Bro this is just the main China developers.. all other projects are not accounted for which will easily run into the thousands although they are low/mid density. Those projects are the real Iskandar projects before this China developers came in..

Tropez residences will be the first Iskandar condo to VP. Can't wait to see Iskandar in 2017.. it'll be awesome especially Puteri Harbour, Danga Bay n Medini!
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Jul 19 2014, 04:52 PM)
No bro they don't have the permit to sell units.. they pushed it back abit.. I registered so ill keep u guys updated!
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Is it because they claim too much land, Mr Lee doesn't like it?
They claim like almost 1/3 of the strait wide.
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QUOTE(hanif444 @ Jun 21 2014, 11:39 AM)
rental can cover bank interest ? Medini condo rental now Rm 1200-1500 per month those condo will cost u Rm600-800k..

low yield..
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Medini condo all still under construction ler,where did you get the rental rate? IMO, Medini / puteri harbor better than danga bay at least in term of town planning & got lots of incentives.

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jul 20 2014, 12:21 PM)
Problem is middle income buyer dont want middle class condo. They want middle class income buy higher class or luxury condo.....tongue.gif
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Actually that is not true. I think middle income nowaday can only buy low cost flat. LOL...

Middle class condo already become higher class price. laugh.gif
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Is it because they claim too much land, Mr Lee doesn't like it?
They claim like almost 1/3 of the strait wide.
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oh can be also but they already got approval from the big boss down south... so sure they should be able to build..
WTF is going on with the train to Singapore..always talking about it but no-one is building it n still can say will be ready by 2018..

Actually they should just open 30/40 more counters in both sides of d causeway during peak hours la and make developers like CG/Greenland provide shuttle services to the CIQ/second link.
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oh can be also but they already got approval from the big boss down south... so sure they should be able to build..
WTF is going on with the train to Singapore..always talking about it but no-one is building it n still can say will be ready by 2018..

Actually they should just open 30/40 more counters in both sides of d causeway during peak hours la and make developers like CG/Greenland provide shuttle services to the CIQ/second link.
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Or we just buy Princess Cove? laugh.gif
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Or we just buy Princess Cove?  laugh.gif
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anyone bought princess cove d?
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oh can be also but they already got approval from the big boss down south... so sure they should be able to build..
WTF is going on with the train to Singapore..always talking about it but no-one is building it n still can say will be ready by 2018..

Actually they should just open 30/40 more counters in both sides of d causeway during peak hours la and make developers like CG/Greenland provide shuttle services to the CIQ/second link.
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May be they shall think off a ferry service instead of relying on the bridge or causeway. This ll divert away many traffics n jam at the CIQ. Build another customs office for the ferry services. Many motorbike can diverted away too...
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May be they shall think off a ferry service instead of relying on the bridge or causeway. This ll divert away many traffics n jam at the CIQ. Build another customs office for the ferry services. Many motorbike can diverted away too...
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i think they are gonna build the ferry service at puteri harbour right?
And the RTS should it be built will have a station in R&F

Tropicana's tropez is almost complete. sad to say it doesn't look impressive at all =(
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Taiko, I think we just walk across the strait later since the reclamation is progress well, just like Mas & Thai border ...
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Taiko, I think we just walk across the strait later since the reclamation is progress well, just like Mas & Thai border ...
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haha now I know why the gov doens't wanna build another bridge.. R&F will do it for free =)
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Taiko, I think we just walk across the strait later since the reclamation is progress well, just like Mas & Thai border ...
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The SG government will not want this lo, they even don't want to widen the causeway last time when TUN M offered to rebuilt the causeway,that's why got the crooked bridge proposal doh.gif
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The SG government will not want this lo, they even don't want to widen the causeway last time when TUN M offered to rebuilt the causeway,that's why got the crooked bridge proposal  doh.gif
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This project very hard la......
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This project very hard la......
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how many billion loss u think they will walk out with?
Their stock performance has been bad cos investors are worried about this development and the 4.5 billion cost for the land
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Jul 24 2014, 03:46 PM)
how many billion loss u think they will walk out with?
Their stock performance has been bad cos investors are worried about this development and the 4.5 billion cost for the land
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With so many condo unit in JB, do u think price will drop in coming 2 years?? icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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With so many condo unit in JB, do u think price will drop in coming 2 years?? icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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I'm quite sure the condo prices will drop (20-40% depending on how high the entry price/location) IF

1. The RTS train btw SG n JB/Iskandar doesn't happen (i'm pretty sure they aren't doing anything about it)
2. The ferry ride doesnt happen as well
3. Princess Cove really builds the 30k apartments haha

Most condo's are only gonna come circa 2017-2018 and alot of investors are gonna be hit hard.
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I wondered how many % of the area is on actual land, how many % is on reclaimed land...
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Surely the rental will not be enough to cover the installment + maintenance fee. Rental for old but well maintained condos around JB town & Danga Bay hovering around $2-$2.5k only.
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Surely the rental will not be enough to cover the installment + maintenance fee. Rental for old but well maintained condos around JB town & Danga Bay hovering around $2-$2.5k only.
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rental confrim cannot cover the installment la..... cool2.gif cool2.gif
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Jul 24 2014, 04:10 PM)
I'm quite sure the condo prices will drop (20-40% depending on how high the entry price/location) IF

1. The RTS train btw SG n JB/Iskandar doesn't happen (i'm pretty sure they aren't doing anything about it)
2. The ferry ride doesnt happen as well
3. Princess Cove really builds the 30k apartments haha

Most condo's are only gonna come circa 2017-2018 and alot of investors are gonna be hit hard.
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1.The Train i heard already confrim sign by Mr Najib and Mr Lee...... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
2.The ferry confrim can not happen la....... shocking.gif shocking.gif
3.R&F confrim 30K unit but whole JB got more than 150K unit wor...... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif







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1.The Train i heard already confrim sign by Mr Najib and Mr Lee...... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
2.The ferry confrim can not happen la....... shocking.gif  shocking.gif
3.R&F confrim 30K unit but whole JB got more than 150K unit wor...... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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haha bro I heard JB 150k undercon and 160k proposed d haha..

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1.The Train i heard already confrim sign by Mr Najib and Mr Lee...... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
2.The ferry confrim can not happen la....... shocking.gif  shocking.gif
3.R&F confrim 30K unit but whole JB got more than 150K unit wor...... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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When najib step down....may be next PM ll cancel the project...who knows
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Jul 23 2014, 08:31 AM)
oh can be also but they already got approval from the big boss down south... so sure they should be able to build..
WTF is going on with the train to Singapore..always talking about it but no-one is building it n still can say will be ready by 2018..

Actually they should just open 30/40 more counters in both sides of d causeway during peak hours la and make developers like CG/Greenland provide shuttle services to the CIQ/second link.
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Don't quote me, based on the China article in this thread earlier, there are 3 laws
governing this thing, I guess not all 3 approved yet.

Don't quote me, it is the China article, I don't want to be banned from going south.
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sibeh funny. sorry chinese version...

http://cforum.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=vi...&extra=page%3D2

金海湾碧桂园 vs 新加坡 : 鸡蛋碰石头

http://cforum.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=378

金海湾碧桂园老总, 经商手腕一流. 但, 他也许不知, 马来西亚是月亮国. 而, 月有阴晴圆缺, 国有三法, 王法, 伊斯兰法和宪法.

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Sorry, it shall be Malaysia website, but in Chinese version.

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When najib step down....may be next PM ll cancel the project...who knows
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completion s part of the relocation of tanjung pagar ktm station.now the station has been moved n both sides hv to comeplete the remaining terms. so the risk of non completion is low. This yr u will know the exact location of the rts. The sg side confirmed the terminus will be at woodland east.
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1.The Train i heard already confrim sign by Mr Najib and Mr Lee...... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
2.The ferry confrim can not happen la....... shocking.gif  shocking.gif
3.R&F confrim 30K unit but whole JB got more than 150K unit wor...... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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1. The thing being sign by Najib and LSL is only MOU, don't get your hopes too high.
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today got write up by the Edge. many new mega-malls in JB.
R&F got one mall below also..
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1. The thing being sign by Najib and LSL is only MOU, don't get your hopes too high.
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apa itu MOU?? Bukan contact keh?? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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haha bro I heard JB 150k undercon and 160k proposed d haha..
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Bro Babizz, 300K want to sales untill when?? JB how many population wor?? 1mil ppl got bor?? 700K ppl?? Mayb sg all should have a house in JB ....... hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Jul 25 2014, 01:29 PM)
Bro Babizz, 300K want to sales untill when?? JB how many population wor?? 1mil ppl got bor?? 700K ppl?? Mayb sg all should have a house in JB ....... hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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1 person 3 house. That is the target.
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1 person 3 house. That is the target.
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like that sg ppl gogoogogogog.............BBB rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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Bro Babizz, 300K want to sales untill when?? JB how many population wor?? 1mil ppl got bor?? 700K ppl?? Mayb sg all should have a house in JB ....... hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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I think even 200k (conservative estimate) over 10 years also can't be occupied.

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I think even 200k (conservative estimate) over 10 years also can't be occupied.
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Rent to tourist. Example for R&F, tourist might want to stay in R&F and then take MRT to Singapore.

Conclusion:-
Buy R&F will win!!!

Buy other project will die. icon_question.gif
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gogo 2 we all know u got some vested interests in R&F, but not many tourists would realistacally live across the border and take a train to SG.

How many units u planning to buy?
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I think even 200k (conservative estimate) over 10 years also can't be occupied.
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Over the 10 years...how many new units ll be launched leh? hmm.gif
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I really dont like the way they sell their products...This week promo package is not the same as last week....

Maybe at later stage, the promo will be EVEN BETTER.....


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I really dont like the way they sell their products...This week promo package is not the same as last week....

Maybe at later stage, the promo will be EVEN BETTER.....
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What is the current package??
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What is the current package??
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Please call them... They changed quite fast...
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Here are some of my concerns:

1. Reclaimed land
I'm no expert in civil engineering but isn't property built on reclaimed land seems to have lower value? I think the structure is more susceptible to land movement which results in cracks and deterioration.

2. Target Purchasers
It is obviously targeted at Singaporeans / Malaysians working in singapore.
-I know when Singaporeans buy properties in Johor, they want/prefer to buy landed as they have been staying in high-rise all their lives. So not sure this strategy still works.
- Locals are not so keen as the price is not within reach for most.
- Malaysians working in Singapore. Most of us are cheap labours in Singapore drawing slightly above the pay scale compared to M'sia. High flyers Malaysians in Singapore would have bought their HDB flats, condos or even landed properties!
- Which group is left.. Expatriates? yes, maybe as they are many expats working in high tech plants in JB.


3. Investment Prospect
- High yield and capital appreciation. Maybe yes. But I cannot predict since it's in future.
- For high rental yield, usually you needs:
i. High income earners or highly skilled talents to sustain Rm3-4k rental. Usually this group are expats who will not stay for long term. In KL, places like Bangsar, Ampang, KLCC, Mont Kiara can still command high rental due to ready pool of expats. Rent to local?! No way! no locals will rent for RM3k - RM4k at least in the near term. Will you yourself rent for this amount?
ii. Stopover / transit for tourists going to Singapore - Yes, possible. But have to be ready for quiet period.

4. Connectivity
- When our not so smart government starts to implement VEP charges to foreign cars, then it will discourage ppl coming to Johor.



I think for long term say 10 ~15 years is still if the above 1st point is not true.
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QUOTE(blessedvillain @ Jul 25 2014, 05:49 PM)
Here are some of my concerns:

1. Reclaimed land 
I'm no expert in civil engineering but isn't property built on reclaimed land seems to have lower value? I think the structure is more susceptible to land movement which results in cracks and deterioration.

2. Target Purchasers
It is obviously targeted at Singaporeans / Malaysians working in singapore.
-I know when Singaporeans buy properties in Johor, they want/prefer to buy landed as they have been staying in high-rise all their lives. So not sure this strategy still works.
- Locals are not so keen as the price is not within reach for most.
- Malaysians working in Singapore. Most of us are cheap labours in Singapore drawing slightly above the pay scale compared to M'sia. High flyers Malaysians in Singapore would have bought their HDB flats, condos or even landed properties!
- Which group is left.. Expatriates? yes, maybe as they are many expats working in high tech plants in JB.
3. Investment Prospect
- High yield and capital appreciation. Maybe yes. But I cannot predict since it's in future.
- For high rental yield, usually you needs:
i. High income earners or highly skilled talents to sustain Rm3-4k rental. Usually this group are expats who will not stay for long term. In KL, places like Bangsar, Ampang, KLCC, Mont Kiara can still command high rental due to ready pool of expats. Rent to local?! No way! no locals will rent for RM3k - RM4k at least in the near term. Will you yourself rent for this amount?   
ii. Stopover / transit for tourists going to Singapore - Yes, possible. But have to be ready for quiet period.

4. Connectivity
- When our not so smart government starts to implement VEP charges to foreign cars, then it will discourage ppl coming to Johor.
I think for long term say 10 ~15 years is still if the above 1st point is not true.
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Afaik, phase one is on non reclaimed area.
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QUOTE(tengster @ Jul 25 2014, 05:59 PM)
Afaik, phase one is on non reclaimed area.
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tengster aiming for phase 1?
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I think tengster kor knows johor cant absorb such high supply of condos. Moreover, princess cove condo design is extremely unattractive
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QUOTE(tengster @ Jul 25 2014, 04:23 PM)
I really dont like the way they sell their products...This week promo package is not the same as last week....

Maybe at later stage, the promo will be EVEN BETTER.....
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This week apa package? ?
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QUOTE(tengster @ Jul 25 2014, 05:22 PM)
Please call them... They changed quite fast...
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Share share here ma. If not whats the point tokinh here hihi
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Cocoon kor wanna buy ah? Or jus kepo like me haha.
I heard greenland jade palace less density.
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1. The thing being sign by Najib and LSL is only MOU, don't get your hopes too high.
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Is an agreement not MOU , dont mislead ppl. U can go to Wikipedia n look for it. First few terms of the agreement have been fulfilled such as vacated tanjung pagar ktm station, forming m+s coy to develop the vacant land, new customs center at woodland station etc. Now is moving to the last few terms such as rts n etc.
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Jul 25 2014, 06:29 PM)
Cocoon kor wanna buy ah? Or jus kepo like me haha.
I heard greenland jade palace less density.
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Dont want la. Nvr been to puteri habour, lego land, medini, danga bay...

but I keep an eye on this. Is interesting if rts station to be announced this year...
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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Jul 25 2014, 04:32 AM)
Is an agreement not MOU , dont mislead ppl. U can go to Wikipedia n look for it. First few terms of the agreement have been fulfilled such as vacated tanjung pagar ktm station, forming m+s coy to develop the vacant land, new customs center at woodland station etc. Now is moving to the last few terms such as rts n etc.
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Thanks for the update. Iskandar would have been great if not for the chinese developers and the flip flop policies.

I personally cant wait to see d final product of d condos down there (other than tropez)
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Jul 25 2014, 06:40 PM)
Thanks for the update. Iskandar would have been great if not for the chinese developers and the flip flop policies.

I personally cant wait to see d final product of d condos down there (other than tropez)
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I understand the emotion of those mid stage investors that bought at 800 to 1500 psf. Now with those chinese developers came in with a big way offering much lower than market price and with enormous amount of supply. We malaysian r so used to property price creeping up one launching after one but these chinese dev seem destroy the rule of game. For those who bought at 1200 to 1500 have to adjust their expectation n bite the bullet. Those 800 to 1200 should expect minimal growth upon completion. Just my very personal opinion.

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Thanks for the update. Iskandar would have been great if not for the chinese developers and the flip flop policies.

I personally cant wait to see d final product of d condos down there (other than tropez)
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Hi to all,

Just joined LowYat today for discussion on this thread and for property news in Malaysia...

I am a Singaporean and I bought 2-BR R&F Princess Cove during last week initial launch..

Reasons why I bought it despite the pricey price tag:

1) Exit Strategy from SG..
>> Supposed that when I get retrenched or in my 50s when my CPF is forced in Retirement Account or some f***ed up annuity scheme, I can have the option to rent out my HDB flag and retire in JB

2) Proximity to SG
>> Walking distance to CIQ.. I don't drive and so I need a property reachable by public transport.. Whether RTS will be build or not is no longer a concern because there is hardly any land parcel near CIQ anymore at 1000 psf.. Also, supposed i retire in JB in future, my kids will be able to visit me easily without having to drive far into JB... Help can also reach me faster with closer proximity to SG..

3) Freehold
>> I can be assured that value is protected unlike leasehold which depreciates with ages

4) Shopping centre nearby
>> Near to City Sq Mall with cinema.. Shopping below condo residences... Basically, amenities...

5) Landed VS Condo
>> I am middle age and I am lazy to do housework... Bigger space means more housework.. Amenities matters more to me than space...

Risks:

1) Foreign Exchange Risks
>> Obviously, if RM continues to depreciates, this could be a poor investment

2) Interest Rate
>> Malaysia Bank Loans I/R is in the range of 4.6% currently which is very high as compared to SG Housing Loans...

3) Poor Rentals and OverSupply of Condos
>> In my opinion, Iskandar is overhyped.. and there's oversupply issue... This will depress rental yield and also if I need to sell this, I have to find another person willing to pay for it... This person will most likely be a foreigner...

4) Iskandar JB CBD development
>> Since the Sultan already said that this is a LANDMARK project, I truly hope so... R&F is a reputable company... This project is at the gateway into JB.. Landmark project ... 5-star hotel and Grade A office towers... If all these comes to fruition, i believe R&F Princess Cove will be a gem in future... However, all these comes down to bilateral relationships between SG and MY... The VEP fiasco highlighted the poor communication between 2 countries... If MY federal govt prevent land reclamation of R&F Princess Cove to go ahead... Then there will be no grade A office tower and no 5-star hotels and basically this project will become just a mere condo near CIQ with a shopping mall....Hopefully, this project will succeed because the failure of this project will dampen investors' sentiments.. project a poor image of Malaysia to China investors... as well as Singaporean investors ...

Here you go, this is my opinion as a Singaporean who bought a unit...

I hope to learn more about Malaysia Developments and R&F Princess Cove Developments via this forum..

Happy Holidays !!!

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tengster aiming for phase 1?
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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Jul 25 2014, 08:09 PM)
Hi to all,

Just joined LowYat today for discussion on this thread and for property news in Malaysia...

I am a Singaporean and I bought 2-BR R&F Princess Cove during last week initial launch..

Reasons why I bought it despite the pricey price tag:

1) Exit Strategy from SG..
>> Supposed that when I get retrenched or in my 50s when my CPF is forced in Retirement Account or some f***ed up annuity scheme, I can have the option to rent out my HDB flag and retire in JB

2) Proximity to SG
>> Walking distance to CIQ.. I don't drive and so I need a property reachable by public transport.. Whether RTS will be build or not is no longer a concern because there is hardly any land parcel near CIQ anymore at 1000 psf.. Also, supposed i retire in JB in future, my kids will be able to visit me easily without having to drive far into JB... Help can also reach me faster with closer proximity to SG..

3) Freehold
>> I can be assured that value is protected unlike leasehold which depreciates with ages

4) Shopping centre nearby
>> Near to City Sq Mall with cinema.. Shopping below condo residences... Basically, amenities...

5) Landed VS Condo
>> I am middle age and I am lazy to do housework... Bigger space means more housework.. Amenities matters more to me than space...

Risks:

1) Foreign Exchange Risks
>> Obviously, if RM continues to depreciates, this could be a poor investment

2) Interest Rate
>> Malaysia Bank Loans I/R is in the range of 4.6% currently which is very high as compared to SG Housing Loans...

3) Poor Rentals and OverSupply of Condos
>> In my opinion, Iskandar is overhyped..  and there's oversupply issue... This will depress rental yield and also if I need to sell this, I have to find another person willing to pay for it... This person will most likely be a foreigner...

4) Iskandar JB CBD development
>> Since the Sultan already said that this is a LANDMARK project, I truly hope so... R&F is a reputable company... This project is at the gateway into JB.. Landmark project ... 5-star hotel and Grade A office towers... If all these comes to fruition, i believe R&F Princess Cove will be a gem in future... However, all these comes down to bilateral relationships between SG and MY... The VEP fiasco highlighted the poor communication between 2 countries... If MY federal govt prevent land reclamation of R&F Princess Cove to go ahead... Then there will be no grade A office tower and no 5-star hotels and basically this project will become just a mere condo near CIQ with a shopping mall....Hopefully, this project will succeed because the failure of this project will dampen investors' sentiments.. project a poor image of Malaysia to China investors... as well as Singaporean investors ...

Here you go, this is my opinion as a Singaporean who bought a unit...

I hope to learn more about Malaysia Developments and R&F Princess Cove Developments via this forum..

Happy Holidays !!!

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Thanks for sharing...mind telling us the promo package....
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Jul 25 2014, 06:07 PM)
I think tengster  kor knows johor cant absorb such high supply of condos. Moreover, princess cove condo design is extremely unattractive
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Honestly, I think high influx of tiongcock developers to flood the market with 10k + units and more (in one shot) is not a good indicator for the state. Those Chinese buyers are cash rich and mostly pay by cash. The local investors could be the one who get hit left right centre.

I will think more than twice....unless I have a special exit strategy....
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Share share here ma. If not whats the point tokinh here hihi
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Back to the fundamental - if supply outstrips demand considerably, what should we expect to happen?

IMO, unless holds it for own stay or with the holding power to hold it for a very long period, the risk is just too high to jump in.
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QUOTE(tengster @ Jul 25 2014, 08:25 PM)
Honestly, I think high influx of tiongcock developers to flood the market with 10k + units and more (in one shot) is not a good indicator for the state. Those Chinese buyers are cash rich and mostly pay by cash. The local investors could be the one who get hit left right centre.

I will think more than twice....unless I have a special exit strategy....
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Back to the fundamental - if supply outstrips demand considerably,  what should we expect to happen?

IMO, unless holds it for own stay or with the holding power to hold it for a very long period, the risk is just too high to jump in.
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Those cash buyers can hold but those who borrow from legalized ahlong will be screwed royally....

1000 PSF with 6% discount partly furnished and some say free 1-2 years maintenance fee depending on which weekend you go...attractive meh?

Honestly, I do like the location. FH land. Can run to Singapore in less than 10 minutes. But the supply is enormously intimidating.....
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Thanks for sharing...mind telling us the promo package....
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The deal I got from last week initial launch is

1) 6% credit rebate from SPA price
2) All stamp duties, lawyer fees .. etc paid by developers..
3) 1 year free waiver of maintenance fee upon TOP
4) RM 20k voucher upon TOP for foreigners on all purchases except studios... (I am not eligible because I purchased the property in my Mother's name whom is a Malaysian)

So I am curious what is the current deal now..

Good deals are those low-level 4 Br and dual keys..
Can go as low as 800/900 psf after discount... But since is bigger so more expensive...

I am risk adverse so I bought level 10 block A2-1 for RM 903,812... Type G

Basically all seaview units Type G (i.e. Block A1-1, A1-2, A2-2) has been pre-booked by tycoons or property investment clubs ...
Last week only launch 7 blocks (A1, A2, A7)..

Price difference between Seaview units Type G similar level is about RM 100,000

Obviously, high floors more expensive than low floor...



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QUOTE(tengster @ Jul 25 2014, 08:34 PM)
Those cash buyers can hold but those who borrow from legalized ahlong will be screwed royally....

1000 PSF with 6% discount partly furnished and some say free 1-2 years maintenance fee depending on which weekend you go...attractive meh?

Honestly, I do like the location. FH land. Can run to Singapore in less than 10 minutes. But the supply is enormously intimidating.....
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Share the same view that location wise perhaps this is the better among RF, CG and GL. But so far nothing change my view from the very beginning about the over supply situation. Probably this will be a better sales project vis a vis others? God knows... and time will tell.
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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Jul 25 2014, 08:37 PM)
The deal I got from last week initial launch is

1) 6% credit rebate from SPA price
2) All stamp duties, lawyer fees .. etc paid by developers..
3) 1 year free waiver of maintenance fee upon TOP
4) RM 20k voucher upon TOP for foreigners on all purchases except studios... (I am not eligible because I purchased the property in my Mother's name whom is a Malaysian)

So I am curious what is the current deal now..
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I am Malaysian residing here. I was told item 1 and 2 only plus partly furnished....


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QUOTE(tengster @ Jul 25 2014, 08:42 PM)
I am Malaysian residing here. I was told item 1 and 2 only plus partly furnished....
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Yup..

All rooms air-con installed..
Some rooms with false ceiling...
Ceiling supposedly to be higher than what was shown in Sales Gallery..
Free shoe cabinets.. floorings... etc.. some room wall-paper...

U can say that is about 50% furnished.


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Share the same view that location wise perhaps this is the better among RF, CG and GL. But so far nothing change my view from the very beginning about the over supply situation.  Probably this will be a better sales project vis a vis others?  God knows... and time will tell.
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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Jul 25 2014, 08:44 PM)
Yup..

All rooms air-con installed..
Some rooms with false ceiling...
Ceiling supposedly to be higher than what was shown in Sales Gallery..
Free shoe cabinets.. floorings... etc.. some room wall-paper...

U can say that is about 50% furnished.
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I didn't go in detail as I was taken aback of the different package within days....
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QUOTE(tengster @ Jul 25 2014, 08:45 PM)
If I have ample cash, I will pop a 873sqft unit facing Singapore for keeping ...... tongue.gif
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Sold out already before launch..
All levels in A1, A2..

I think A3 also will be sold out before launch..
That is why I pick a level 10 unit in A2-1 because I think Type G (with the best layout) will be hot !!!

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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Jul 25 2014, 08:46 PM)
Sold out already before launch..
All levels in A1, A2..

I think A3 also will be sold out before launch..
That is why I pick a level 10 unit in A2-1 because I think Type G (with the best layout) will be hot !!!

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Aisey...but no need to aisey for me. I don't have that kind of monies to buy. I can only blow water.

Did you know where is the proposed MRT station?
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Aisey...but no need to aisey for me. I don't have that kind of monies to buy. I can only blow water.

Did you know where is the proposed MRT station?
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This is the HOMEWORK I did before I decided on the purchase....


JB Sentral

Source #1:

http://www.malaysian-properties.com/transportation-rts-mrt

Look at the pictures somewhere in there..

Source #2:

http://www.jbwc2020.com/download/Preso_JB_...ndar_Region.pdf

This is IRDA Presentation Material Dated 25 Jun 2014

LOOK AT SLIDE 16 !!!


OF COURSE NOTHING IS CONFIRMED at the moment and Malaysia Govt always flip flop...

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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Jul 25 2014, 09:21 PM)
This is the HOMEWORK I did before I decided on the purchase....
JB Sentral

Source #1:

http://www.malaysian-properties.com/transportation-rts-mrt

Look at the pictures somewhere in there..

Source #2:

http://www.jbwc2020.com/download/Preso_JB_...ndar_Region.pdf

This is IRDA Presentation Material Dated 25 Jun 2014

LOOK AT SLIDE 16 !!!
OF COURSE NOTHING IS CONFIRMED at the moment and Malaysia Govt always flip flop...

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Good one, if you have done your homework, you know what you are heading for, then go for it. Have faith...good discussion my man...

On the left side of the bridge, there is an eyesore abandoned project, are they going to do something about it.
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QUOTE(tengster @ Jul 25 2014, 09:30 PM)
Good one, if you have done your homework, you know what you are heading for, then go for it. Have faith...good discussion my man...

On the left side of the bridge, there is an eyesore abandoned project, are they going to do something about it.
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U mean that abandoned mall??

It is being re-renovated now..


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U mean that abandoned mall??

It is being re-renovated now..
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Hokay... Never thought it get revived. This mall is very political driven project...
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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Jul 25 2014, 08:46 PM)
Sold out already before launch..
All levels in A1, A2..

I think A3 also will be sold out before launch..
That is why I pick a level 10 unit in A2-1 because I think Type G (with the best layout) will be hot !!!

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Yes best ia type G .. but with a premium attached to it also
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Yes kl office. The package is same as zelphon boss mentioned.

Dont think they will adjsut the package so fast. May be towards the end to clear those unsold stocks.
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Jul 25 2014, 02:47 PM)
gogo 2 we all know u got some vested interests in R&F, but not many tourists would realistacally live across the border and take a train to SG.

How many units u planning to buy?
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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Jul 25 2014, 06:13 PM)
This week apa package? ?
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1000psft less 25% ??
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1000psft less 25% ??
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If this is the package... I will withdraw my OTP...

LOL

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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Jul 25 2014, 09:21 PM)
This is the HOMEWORK I did before I decided on the purchase....
JB Sentral

Source #1:

http://www.malaysian-properties.com/transportation-rts-mrt

Look at the pictures somewhere in there..

Source #2:

http://www.jbwc2020.com/download/Preso_JB_...ndar_Region.pdf

This is IRDA Presentation Material Dated 25 Jun 2014

LOOK AT SLIDE 16 !!!
OF COURSE NOTHING IS CONFIRMED at the moment and Malaysia Govt always flip flop...

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All the best !!!!
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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Jul 25 2014, 11:04 PM)
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If this is the package... I will withdraw my OTP...

LOL

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good to know that the condo's are sold.
Is Vantage Bay on the market already? I like the whole hospital idea.

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they should launch the landmark office tower soon. Need to attract SG companies to relocate.

With better connectivity, we will be better positioned to achieve the vision of an Asean Economic Community
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they should launch the landmark office tower soon. Need to attract SG companies to relocate.

With better connectivity, we will be better positioned to achieve the vision of an Asean Economic Community
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What if RTS and HSR do not materialise before all 300K new units come to market? The two links will be jammed as hell and the city area esp those surrounding the CIQ, will be full of vehicle exhaust!!!!
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What if RTS and HSR do not materialise before all 300K new units come to market? The two links will be jammed as hell and the city area esp those surrounding the CIQ, will be full of vehicle exhaust!!!!
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i'm quite sure 20-30k units will be ready before the RTS is complete. Tropez is completing soon d
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Yes kl office. The package is same as zelphon boss mentioned.

Dont think they will adjsut the package so fast. May be towards the end to clear those unsold stocks.
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Jul 26 2014, 10:06 AM)
i'm quite sure 20-30k units will be ready before the RTS is complete. Tropez is completing soon d
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Tropez all unit sold out?
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Tropez all unit sold out?
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But tropez doesn't look very nice.
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Don't buy jb property anymore cos the too much hike in toll or coming soon vep.. All this implement before better public transport set up...
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The facilities to be provided are quite impressive. Based on the sales chart, the % booking is high with 10k. Price tag is not too high,judging from its location,IMO

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Don't buy jb property anymore cos the too much hike in toll or coming soon vep.. All this implement before better public transport set up...
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The facilities to be provided are quite impressive. Based on the sales chart, the % booking is high with 10k. Price tag is not too high,judging from its location,IMO
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Hey can u post the pictures of the facilities?
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Hey can u post the pictures of the facilities?
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Latest info I got from my agent:

For 1st phase launch of 7 blocks A1, A2 and A7

All 2 BR sold out already..
3 BR only left 6 units for Seaview

Current package:

Free Loan/spa stamp
6% credit rebate
20k rebate for foreigners (foreign levy)
20k rebate for all buyers (MOT)

*No more free maintenance 1st year for new buyers.
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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Jul 28 2014, 10:33 AM)
Latest info I got from my agent:

For 1st phase launch of 7 blocks A1, A2 and A7

All 2 BR sold out already..
3 BR only left 6 units for Seaview

Current package:

Free Loan/spa stamp
6% credit rebate
20k rebate for foreigners (foreign levy)
20k rebate for all buyers (MOT)

*No more free maintenance 1st year for new buyers.
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orr so the freebie no longer available... but hor some taiko here said the discount or freebie has improved woh... who is right who is wrong?

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QUOTE(thecontrails @ Jul 27 2014, 10:45 AM)
The facilities to be provided are quite impressive. Based on the sales chart, the % booking is high with 10k. Price tag is not too high,judging from its location,IMO
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You agent??
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orr so the freebie no longer available... but hor some taiko here said the discount or freebie has improved woh...  who is right who is wrong?
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No idea leh..

My info from my Singapore REA agent whom I bought the 2 BR from..

The VEP and Toll charges from Malaysia Govt is worrying...
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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Jul 28 2014, 01:30 PM)
No idea leh..

My info from my Singapore REA agent whom I bought the 2 BR from..

The VEP and Toll charges from Malaysia Govt is worrying...
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I predict a U-turn by M'sia govern on VEP. Johor's recent uptrend in property prices is driven by Singapore investment. Thus, when it becomes not so cost friendly anymore to invest in Johor anymore due to VEP and other restrictions, putrajaya will definitely relook at VEP.

But then again, if collecting VEP and tolls enrich certain group of elite people. I dont think they give a SH*T about public outcry.


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wah I cannot believe the sales so good!!

prop market still BBB.

People say R&F sure gonna come ghost town but people still buy
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wah I cannot believe the sales so good!!

prop market still BBB.

People say R&F sure gonna come ghost town but people still buy
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BBB?? How many % sold out liao??
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wah I cannot believe the sales so good!!

prop market still BBB.

People say R&F sure gonna come ghost town but people still buy
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Bbb meh? Have u checked with reliable source or just developer?

U r making me panic, I want to visit their show room tomolo!
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Bbb meh? Have u checked with reliable source or just developer?

U r making me panic, I want to visit their show room tomolo!
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Why u panic??

U buying meh?

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wah I cannot believe the sales so good!!

prop market still BBB.

People say R&F sure gonna come ghost town but people still buy
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The reason is Princess Cove is the only property in Johor with such location.

This is THE property to buy in Johor.

If you haven't bought any property in Johor, this is THE ONE.

If you already bought a property in Johor, you need to buy this too.

Princess Cove is a chance in a lifetime. Please don't miss it or you all will regret for your whole life.
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Bbb meh? Have u checked with reliable source or just developer?

U r making me panic, I want to visit their show room tomolo!
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No worry bro, got 30,000 unit.....dont panic.....

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The reason is Princess Cove is the only property in Johor with such location.

This is THE property to buy in Johor.

If you haven't bought any property in Johor, this is THE ONE.

If you already bought a property in Johor, you need to buy this too.

Princess Cove is a chance in a lifetime. Please don't miss it or you all will regret for your whole life.
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this location super near sg......if got LRT or MRT than is perfect.....if plus the price lower abit than.... smile.gifsmile.gif

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this location super near sg......if got LRT or MRT than is perfect.....if plus the price lower abit than.... smile.gifsmile.gif
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Yes, the only location super near to singapore. Mrt is confirmed. Price is very low at RM1000psft compare to nearby,
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Yes, the only location super near to singapore. Mrt is confirmed. Price is very low at RM1000psft compare to nearby,
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The Train from SG to KL is call what?? LRT/MRT??

The Train got stop in Princess Cove??
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The Train from SG to KL is call what?? LRT/MRT??

The Train got stop in Princess Cove??
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It is called RTS..

I already posted my homework here..

Read previous threads..

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The Train from SG to KL is call what?? LRT/MRT??

The Train got stop in Princess Cove??
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Yes, train stop at princess cove. It might even have own entrance to the train. Details soon.
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He is.....

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The Train from SG to KL is call what?? LRT/MRT??

The Train got stop in Princess Cove??
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You are agent trying to promote?
How much discount you can give?
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another chinese version R&F. not selling good.
last sentence said...china pipu don't buy, sing pipu plenty of choices, malaysian not easy to buy not cheap.

mrt/RTS already bullsh*t for 20 years.

富力公主灣 ( R&F Princess Cove ), 不好卖

http://cinalook.blogspot.com/2014/07/r-princess-cove.html

中国广州富力地产花 45 亿买 116 亩土地, 分 4 期, 8 年, 发展酒店, 辦公樓, 花園, 購物商場,俱樂部和公寓, 总发展值高达 245 亿.

第一期开跑, 建 15 棟公寓, 楼高35 层, 共3000 個單位, 另加購物商場, 2017年完成.

公寓單位大小, 有, 469, 794, 872, 874, 1075, 1098, 1052, 1062, 1078, 1079, 1133, 1242, 1391, 1343 平方尺, 1平方尺应该定价在 RM 1000上下.

新马地铁站是卖点. 但, 新马地铁站在新山, 传了 20 年.

新加坡, 吉隆坡快铁是卖点. 但, 新加坡, 吉隆坡快铁也传了 10 年.

迪士尼乐园, 在新马第二通道, 传了一代人, 结果只来了一个乐高园.

宣传技俩, 炒作功夫, 那算得准.


富力地产卖富力公主灣, 主打, 地段, 地段, 还是地段. 富力公主灣的地段好, 是无可质疑. 但, 只有发展商买地段, 普通的买家, 买的是地点, 地点, 还是地点.

地点跟地段, 差个 10 万 8 千里.

中国人不买, 新加坡人选择多, 马来西亚人难买, 所以说, 富力公主灣不好卖.

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Jul 28 2014, 11:51 PM)
another chinese version R&F. not selling good.
last sentence said...china pipu don't buy, sing pipu plenty of choices, malaysian not easy to buy not cheap.

mrt/RTS already bullsh*t for 20 years.

富力公主灣 ( R&F Princess Cove ), 不好卖

http://cinalook.blogspot.com/2014/07/r-princess-cove.html

中国广州富力地产花 45 亿买 116 亩土地, 分 4 期, 8 年, 发展酒店, 辦公樓, 花園, 購物商場,俱樂部和公寓, 总发展值高达 245 亿.

第一期开跑, 建 15 棟公寓, 楼高35 层, 共3000 個單位, 另加購物商場, 2017年完成.

公寓單位大小, 有, 469, 794, 872, 874, 1075, 1098, 1052, 1062, 1078, 1079, 1133, 1242, 1391, 1343 平方尺, 1平方尺应该定价在 RM 1000上下.

新马地铁站是卖点. 但, 新马地铁站在新山, 传了 20 年.

新加坡, 吉隆坡快铁是卖点. 但, 新加坡, 吉隆坡快铁也传了 10 年.

迪士尼乐园, 在新马第二通道, 传了一代人, 结果只来了一个乐高园.

宣传技俩, 炒作功夫, 那算得准.


富力地产卖富力公主灣, 主打, 地段, 地段, 还是地段. 富力公主灣的地段好, 是无可质疑. 但, 只有发展商买地段, 普通的买家, 买的是地点, 地点, 还是地点.

地点跟地段, 差个 10 万 8 千里.

中国人不买, 新加坡人选择多, 马来西亚人难买, 所以说, 富力公主灣不好卖.
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Fake info release by buyer of other project. LoL
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Fake info release by buyer of other project. LoL
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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Jul 28 2014, 11:51 PM)
another chinese version R&F. not selling good.
last sentence said...china pipu don't buy, sing pipu plenty of choices, malaysian not easy to buy not cheap.

mrt/RTS already bullsh*t for 20 years.

富力公主灣 ( R&F Princess Cove ), 不好卖

http://cinalook.blogspot.com/2014/07/r-princess-cove.html

中国广州富力地产花 45 亿买 116 亩土地, 分 4 期, 8 年, 发展酒店, 辦公樓, 花園, 購物商場,俱樂部和公寓, 总发展值高达 245 亿.

第一期开跑, 建 15 棟公寓, 楼高35 层, 共3000 個單位, 另加購物商場, 2017年完成.

公寓單位大小, 有, 469, 794, 872, 874, 1075, 1098, 1052, 1062, 1078, 1079, 1133, 1242, 1391, 1343 平方尺, 1平方尺应该定价在 RM 1000上下.

新马地铁站是卖点. 但, 新马地铁站在新山, 传了 20 年.

新加坡, 吉隆坡快铁是卖点. 但, 新加坡, 吉隆坡快铁也传了 10 年.

迪士尼乐园, 在新马第二通道, 传了一代人, 结果只来了一个乐高园.

宣传技俩, 炒作功夫, 那算得准.


富力地产卖富力公主灣, 主打, 地段, 地段, 还是地段. 富力公主灣的地段好, 是无可质疑. 但, 只有发展商买地段, 普通的买家, 买的是地点, 地点, 还是地点.

地点跟地段, 差个 10 万 8 千里.

中国人不买, 新加坡人选择多, 马来西亚人难买, 所以说, 富力公主灣不好卖.
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haha rf made many enemies in malai. Understood also sell lower than market with plenty of supply. Rf effective restate the mkt price in jb n iskandar. I also angry if I m the early investors or existing developers

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Jul 28 2014, 11:51 PM)
another chinese version R&F. not selling good.
last sentence said...china pipu don't buy, sing pipu plenty of choices, malaysian not easy to buy not cheap.

mrt/RTS already bullsh*t for 20 years.

富力公主灣 ( R&F Princess Cove ), 不好卖

http://cinalook.blogspot.com/2014/07/r-princess-cove.html

中国广州富力地产花 45 亿买 116 亩土地, 分 4 期, 8 年, 发展酒店, 辦公樓, 花園, 購物商場,俱樂部和公寓, 总发展值高达 245 亿.

第一期开跑, 建 15 棟公寓, 楼高35 层, 共3000 個單位, 另加購物商場, 2017年完成.

公寓單位大小, 有, 469, 794, 872, 874, 1075, 1098, 1052, 1062, 1078, 1079, 1133, 1242, 1391, 1343 平方尺, 1平方尺应该定价在 RM 1000上下.

新马地铁站是卖点. 但, 新马地铁站在新山, 传了 20 年.

新加坡, 吉隆坡快铁是卖点. 但, 新加坡, 吉隆坡快铁也传了 10 年.

迪士尼乐园, 在新马第二通道, 传了一代人, 结果只来了一个乐高园.

宣传技俩, 炒作功夫, 那算得准.


富力地产卖富力公主灣, 主打, 地段, 地段, 还是地段. 富力公主灣的地段好, 是无可质疑. 但, 只有发展商买地段, 普通的买家, 买的是地点, 地点, 还是地点.

地点跟地段, 差个 10 万 8 千里.



Many diff infor .............. rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

中国人不买, 新加坡人选择多, 马来西亚人难买, 所以说, 富力公主灣不好卖.
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many diff infor ........
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anyone visited their sales gallery/office recently?
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 28 2014, 07:40 PM)
The reason is Princess Cove is the only property in Johor with such location.

This is THE property to buy in Johor.

If you haven't bought any property in Johor, this is THE ONE.

If you already bought a property in Johor, you need to buy this too.

Princess Cove is a chance in a lifetime. Please don't miss it or you all will regret for your whole life.
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Can share with me what is your exit strategy?
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Can share with me what is your exit strategy?
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tengster kor, gogo2 has only given the pros of this project from day 1.
I think he is a sales agent/staff of R&F.


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if the condo got fewer blocks (much taller structures) like Greenland's 13 60 tower condo's then this project will be a better buy.
For now, the views of many units will be blocked
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tengster kor, gogo2 has only given the pros of this project from day 1.
I think he is a sales agent/staff of R&F.
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thanks man.... This could be the PURRFECT prop for him.... tongue.gif
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Yes, the only location super near to singapore. Mrt is confirmed. Price is very low at RM1000psft compare to nearby,
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What are the nearby projects prices in term of PSF????? Please give some names.
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What are the nearby projects prices in term of PSF????? Please give some names.
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Nearby project is RM1500psft.

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Nearby project is RM1500psft.
Please don't kacau my thread. This thread is for serious buyer.  mad.gif
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I bought..

Dunno am I a carrot or not..

Only time will tell..

My Maybank loan approved today..
Managed to get 80%..

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Ya..

I bought..

Dunno am I a carrot or not..

Only time will tell..

My Maybank loan approved today..
Managed to get 80%..

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Congratulations. Actually you make the right decision. Princess Cove is the only project that situated at the most prime land ever for a JB project. Some even say can walk/swim across Singapore directly from Princess Cove. And with train going direct to Singapore, you don't have to suffer jams etc.

Great buy especially your unit have sea view. Congrats again.
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Nearby project is RM1500psft.
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Which one sell at 1500 PSF?
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Which one sell at 1500 PSF?
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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Jul 30 2014, 04:47 PM)
Ya..

I bought..

Dunno am I a carrot or not..

Only time will tell..

My Maybank loan approved today..
Managed to get 80%..

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y 80% only?
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I think China developers plus Iskandar harder to get financing. Hope the quota from banks for R&F isn't as little as CG Danga Bay
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Congratulations. Actually you make the right decision. Princess Cove is the only project that situated at the most prime land ever for a JB project. Some even say can walk/swim across Singapore directly from Princess Cove. And with train going direct to Singapore, you don't have to suffer jams etc.

Great buy especially your unit have sea view. Congrats again.
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Mine no seaview worrr..

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I think China developers plus Iskandar harder to get financing. Hope the quota from banks for R&F isn't as little as CG Danga Bay
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Dunno..

Maybe because SPA will be my mother's name only who is a Malaysian..
Bank loan will be both me and my mother's name..

I am quite happy with 80% actually..

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Deleted. Dumb question/.

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Mine no seaview worrr..

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No seaview also ok la. Location is the most important. As we always said, LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 30 2014, 04:51 PM)
Congratulations. Actually you make the right decision. Princess Cove is the only project that situated at the most prime land ever for a JB project. Some even say can walk/swim across Singapore directly from Princess Cove. And with train going direct to Singapore, you don't have to suffer jams etc.

Great buy especially your unit have sea view. Congrats again.
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Sorry but unless u really swim over to SG, there is no way to avoid jam to SG even with RTS. Trust me, i travel daily. Not only car jam, human also jam.

1) If buyer are buying from the impression that is so near to SG and can avoid jam then it is so wrong. It does not make much different as the jam itself start at CIQ, even it is 5 minute distance from CIQ but u still stuck there like everyone else. So it does not matter if u stay a little further. Unless u having transportation problem getting to CIQ itself which most dont. But of course u save the time getting to CIQ itself which is minimal.

2) Talking about the CIQ jam itself, due to it was so near to CIQ, you will be frustrated getting in and out of your house during peak hrs once the development complete. Even if developer build a new road but as long as the road able to access to CIQ it will be pack as everybody is heading to your direction.


I think this property is most suitable for Singaporean and those travelling to SG to work daily. I dont think JB people will be interested staying so near to CIQ, they rather buy a landed property further with car porch, garden and no monthly maintenance fees. In you are thinking to buy and rent it out to those travelling to SG to work, with VEP and tolls coming, travelling cost will be getting higher, unless the rent is much lower than renting at SG, else it makes no sense to save a little and stuck at jam few hrs daily.

Just my 2 cent, no offense.

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Sorry but unless u really swim over to SG, there is no way to avoid jam to SG even with RTS. Trust me, i travel daily. Not only car jam, human also jam.

1) If buyer are buying from the impression that is so near to SG and can avoid jam then it is so wrong. It does not make much different as the jam itself start at CIQ, even it is 5 minute distance from CIQ but u still stuck there like everyone else. So it does not matter if u stay a little further. Unless u having transportation problem getting to CIQ itself which most dont. But of course u save the time getting to CIQ itself which is minimal.

2) Talking about the CIQ jam itself, due to it was so near to CIQ, you will be frustrated getting in and out of your house during peak hrs once the development complete. Even if developer build a new road but as long as the road able to access to CIQ it will be pack as everybody is heading to your direction.
I think this property is most suitable for Singaporean and those travelling to SG to work daily. I dont think JB people will be interested staying so near to CIQ, they rather buy a landed property further with car porch, garden and no monthly maintenance fees. In you are thinking to buy and rent it out to those travelling to SG to work, with VEP and tolls coming, travelling cost will be getting higher, unless the rent is much lower than renting at SG, else it makes no sense to save a little and stuck at jam few hrs daily.

Just my 2 cent, no offense.
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boleh and lion government political issue, royal law issue and islamic law issue juggle the property fate here. quite risky. sudden change of law or raise of toll fee....etc. may cause all the sing pipu flee back and investor run away.

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Sorry but unless u really swim over to SG, there is no way to avoid jam to SG even with RTS. Trust me, i travel daily. Not only car jam, human also jam.

1) If buyer are buying from the impression that is so near to SG and can avoid jam then it is so wrong. It does not make much different as the jam itself start at CIQ, even it is 5 minute distance from CIQ but u still stuck there like everyone else. So it does not matter if u stay a little further. Unless u having transportation problem getting to CIQ itself which most dont. But of course u save the time getting to CIQ itself which is minimal.

2) Talking about the CIQ jam itself, due to it was so near to CIQ, you will be frustrated getting in and out of your house during peak hrs once the development complete. Even if developer build a new road but as long as the road able to access to CIQ it will be pack as everybody is heading to your direction.
I think this property is most suitable for Singaporean and those travelling to SG to work daily. I dont think JB people will be interested staying so near to CIQ, they rather buy a landed property further with car porch, garden and no monthly maintenance fees. In you are thinking to buy and rent it out to those travelling to SG to work, with VEP and tolls coming, travelling cost will be getting higher, unless the rent is much lower than renting at SG, else it makes no sense to save a little and stuck at jam few hrs daily.

Just my 2 cent, no offense.
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Yes.. I agree too..

Buying for exit strategy so I can rent out my HDB flat if i get retrenched..
I can hardly buy anything in SG for SGD 400k with TDSR implementation now..

Even a mickey mouse condo at remote location costs SGD 600k minimum..
That is why I rather buy a condo unit at prime location near CIQ so that I do not need to drive to reach it..
I do not own a car in SG anyway..

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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Jul 28 2014, 10:33 AM)
Latest info I got from my agent:

For 1st phase launch of 7 blocks A1, A2 and A7

All 2 BR sold out already..
3 BR only left 6 units for Seaview

Current package:

Free Loan/spa stamp
6% credit rebate
20k rebate for foreigners (foreign levy)
20k rebate for all buyers (MOT)

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When they remove this?
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When they remove this?
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No idea..
Perhaps that is for those buying on the 1st day of launch??


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Sorry but unless u really swim over to SG, there is no way to avoid jam to SG even with RTS. Trust me, i travel daily. Not only car jam, human also jam.

1) If buyer are buying from the impression that is so near to SG and can avoid jam then it is so wrong. It does not make much different as the jam itself start at CIQ, even it is 5 minute distance from CIQ but u still stuck there like everyone else. So it does not matter if u stay a little further. Unless u having transportation problem getting to CIQ itself which most dont. But of course u save the time getting to CIQ itself which is minimal.

2) Talking about the CIQ jam itself, due to it was so near to CIQ, you will be frustrated getting in and out of your house during peak hrs once the development complete. Even if developer build a new road but as long as the road able to access to CIQ it will be pack as everybody is heading to your direction.
I think this property is most suitable for Singaporean and those travelling to SG to work daily. I dont think JB people will be interested staying so near to CIQ, they rather buy a landed property further with car porch, garden and no monthly maintenance fees. In you are thinking to buy and rent it out to those travelling to SG to work, with VEP and tolls coming, travelling cost will be getting higher, unless the rent is much lower than renting at SG, else it makes no sense to save a little and stuck at jam few hrs daily.

Just my 2 cent, no offense.
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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Jul 30 2014, 06:05 PM)
Yes.. I agree too..

Buying for exit strategy so I can rent out my HDB flat if i get retrenched..
I can hardly buy anything in SG for SGD 400k with TDSR implementation now..

Even a mickey mouse condo at remote location costs SGD 600k minimum..
That is why I rather buy a condo unit at prime location near CIQ so that I do not need to drive to reach it..
I do not own a car in SG anyway..
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For SGD400K (more than 1 mil rm), you have many options for investment in Malaysia property.....

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For SGD400K (more than 1 mil rm), you have many options for investment in Malaysia properties.....
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Indeed but this is the only one within WALKING DISTANCE from CIQ now that is affordable for me..

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Indeed but this is the only one within WALKING DISTANCE from CIQ now that is affordable for me..
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Btw can ask how much does the unit cost u ? Since u are staying in SG, guess u going to rent it out ? i think it wont have problem finding tenant as there is still a lot Malaysian coming from other states to work in SG and some really dont own a car or prefer to stay as near as possible to gain more sleep time laugh.gif . But the rent have to be really competitive compare to renting in SG and most probably only able to cover small part of your loan payment.

Well is a property, location wise CIQ and causeway is gonna be there for foresee able future, there is no bad buy unless buy to goreng market. I would love to own one unit there but for that price, i would still prefer bigger landed property biggrin.gif
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Btw can ask how much does the unit cost u ? Since u are staying in SG, guess u going to rent it out ? i think it wont have problem finding tenant as there is still a lot Malaysian coming from other states to work in SG and some really dont own a car or prefer to stay as near as possible to gain more sleep time  laugh.gif . But the rent have to be really competitive compare to renting in SG and most probably only able to cover small part of your loan payment.

Well is a property, location wise CIQ and causeway is gonna be there for foresee able future, there is no bad buy unless buy to goreng market. I would love to own one unit there but for that price, i would still prefer bigger landed property  biggrin.gif
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RM 903,812 before 6% credit rebate

I will try to rent it out when TOP.
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RM 903,812 before 6% credit rebate

I will try to rent it out when TOP.
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How much lui u want to rent it out?
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How much lui u want to rent it out?
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Dunno..

How to gauge when unit not yet TOP???

This is a landmark project that will change the skyline of JB...

Also, apart from phase 1, all other phases on reclaimed land is on hold pending study..

Many uncertainties now..

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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Aug 1 2014, 10:07 AM)
Dunno..

How to gauge when unit not yet TOP???

This is a landmark project that will change the skyline of JB...

Also, apart from phase 1, all other phases on reclaimed land is on hold pending study..

Many uncertainties now..
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has rnf started reclaiming the land ? How does this impact the overall project?


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johor is a copy like shenzhen. which oversupply eventually.
greater china can back their state because of population but iskandar, i am so sorry to say so. unless it is cater for bangladeshi.
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QUOTE(JamesPond @ Aug 1 2014, 10:17 AM)
johor is a copy like shenzhen. which oversupply eventually.
greater china can back their state because of population but iskandar, i am so sorry to say so. unless it is cater for bangladeshi.
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Iskandar can over supply. But Princess Cove is just 1 only only on CIQ. So... they can never be over supplied.


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it is current 1 in CIQ at this moment and wont be the last 1 in the future. reclamation of land is currently in progress for more.
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it is current 1 in CIQ at this moment and wont be the last 1 in the future. reclamation of land is currently in progress for more.
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The nearest still Princess Cove. rclxms.gif

By the way, you said reclamation. All are Princess Cove reclamation right? flex.gif
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No, if you got time, please go to site and have a look those site that are doing land reclamation.
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QUOTE(JamesPond @ Aug 1 2014, 10:34 AM)
No, if you got time, please go to site and have a look those site that are doing land reclamation.
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But anyway, its still not as near as Princess Cove. So the point is moot.


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When is the last time you go 2nd link custom office?
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Sorry but do u even know which property we are talking about ? Princess Cove is at JB town, not 2nd link yo sweat.gif

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Is there another development in JB town with same name? I am talking about tanjung puteri to tuas.
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Shit... you talk about 2nd link? doh.gif Do you know where is Princess Cove? rclxub.gif
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Shit... you talk about 2nd link?  doh.gif Do you know where is Princess Cove?  rclxub.gif
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opps... may be the thot is puteri harbour ka?
sorry i also never been to iskandar area i blow water only

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you are right. I have confused myself.
But I was told this is under iskandar?
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you are right. I have confused myself.
But I was told this is under iskandar?
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Iskandar is 3 times Singapore Size, divided into 5 flagship leh...

Location is a huge factor...

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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Aug 1 2014, 11:16 AM)
opps... may be the thot is puteri harbour ka?
sorry i also never been to iskandar area i blow water only
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QUOTE(JamesPond @ Aug 1 2014, 11:16 AM)
you are right. I have confused myself.
But I was told this is under iskandar?
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I pengsan already listen to you guys. I was wondering how come got people actually talk bad about Princess Cove when Princess Cove is actually the best property ever in JB 1st Link. Some more so cheap RM1000psf.

Go learn about Princess Cove. If you bought it, it might be your best property purchase ever.


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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 1 2014, 11:58 AM)
I pengsan already listen to you guys. I was wondering how come got people actually talk bad about Princess Cove when Princess Cove is actually the best property ever in JB 1st Link. Some more so cheap RM1000psf.

Go learn about Princess Cove. If you bought it, it might be your best property purchase ever.
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gogo-kor - Can share more why this is the best?

Do you have the map showing where is reclaimed and where is not? I was informed by one rookie SA that only certain part is reclaimed land... Please share share.
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gogo-kor - Can share more why this is the best?

Do you have the map showing where is reclaimed and where is not? I was informed by one rookie SA that only certain part is reclaimed land... Please share share.
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gogo-kor - Can share more why this is the best?

Do you have the map showing where is reclaimed and where is not? I was informed by one rookie SA that only certain part is reclaimed land... Please share share.
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Phase 1 (currently selling) is on SOLID LAND..
Phase 2 is partially on reclaimed land..
Phase 3, 4, 5 totally on reclaimed land...

Only phase 1 obtained the approval for sale now...
The rest all pending approval due to land reclaimation complain from SG..

Worse case scanrio..
All reclaimed land cannot proceed...

Phase 1 will rocket !!! Cos much lesser supply..



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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Aug 1 2014, 12:05 PM)
Phase 1 (currently selling) is on SOLID LAND..
Phase 2 is partially on reclaimed land..
Phase 3, 4, 5 totally on reclaimed land...

Only phase 1 obtained the approval for sale now...
The rest all pending approval due to land reclaimation complain from SG..

Worse  case scanrio..
All reclaimed land cannot proceed...

Phase 1 will rocket !!! Cos much lesser supply..
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Thanks Zel. This is called good due d homework. I remember seeing Phase 1 is surely on solid ground. I have been there several times before CIQ is up. Surely adequate space for several blocks of Phase 1....


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Thanks Zel. This is called good due d homework. I remember seeing Phase 1 is surely on solid ground. I have been there several times before CIQ is up. Surely adequate space for several blocks of Phase 1....
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You not panic buy yet? Why?
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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Aug 1 2014, 12:05 PM)
Phase 1 (currently selling) is on SOLID LAND..
Phase 2 is partially on reclaimed land..
Phase 3, 4, 5 totally on reclaimed land...

Only phase 1 obtained the approval for sale now...
The rest all pending approval due to land reclaimation complain from SG..

Worse  case scanrio..
All reclaimed land cannot proceed...

Phase 1 will rocket !!! Cos much lesser supply..
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the possibility of the worse case scenario is very slim, this project is closely linked to Sultan of Johor if you get what i mean. whistling.gif nod.gif
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is this under iskandar policy? foreign can purchase above 500k?
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QUOTE(JamesPond @ Aug 1 2014, 02:29 PM)
is this under iskandar policy? foreign can purchase above 500k?
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1m. Only medini 500k
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that is the problem with jb town.
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that is the problem with jb town.
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This one freehold. Medini all leasehold. Thats the problem with medini
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ok Medini is leasehold. big problem. dont touch leasehold. only touch freehold.

so all superstar developers in medini are facing problem now and then.
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What is the problem with LH? Lots of condos in KV also leasehold.
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QUOTE(JamesPond @ Aug 1 2014, 04:01 PM)
ok Medini is leasehold. big problem. dont touch leasehold. only touch freehold.

so all superstar developers in medini are facing problem now and then.
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What is the problem with LH? Lots of condos in KV also leasehold.
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When there's no choice, then go for leasehold. If got freehold but you still buy leasehold, you brain might need some checking? That might be a problem? icon_question.gif

And Princess Cove is freehold in Super Prime area. nod.gif

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yes, big players developer in medini need to gets their brain checked by someone not really well known to public from lowyat.net


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yes, big players developer in medini need to gets their brain checked by someone not really well known to public from lowyat.net
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ok Medini is leasehold. big problem. dont touch leasehold. only touch freehold.

so all superstar developers in medini are facing problem now and then.
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The super stars face problem when chinese developers launching at 800 psf with 30k units. They kena f bro... investors also kena f
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better both party go for a proper checking. I am sure something is wrong somwhere.
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What is the problem with LH? Lots of condos in KV also leasehold.
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u will know it when market turns bad. Lh n fh now seems the same but u will feel the gap over long run.
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What is the problem with LH? Lots of condos in KV also leasehold.
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One of the main highlights of MM2H is that foreigners can buy FREEHOLD properties in Malaysia as compared to peers...

In SG, Freehold condos are very expensive and rare...

In Malaysia where land is abundant and there's plenty of FREEHOLD properties, why go for LEASEHOLD??

Leasehold is cheap because it is precisely a LEASE.. and value will definitely starts to depreciates once remaining lease left 60 yrs old..




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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Aug 1 2014, 04:27 PM)
One of the main highlights of MM2H is that foreigners can buy FREEHOLD properties in Malaysia as compared to peers...

In SG, Freehold condos are very expensive and rare...

In Malaysia where land is abundant and there's plenty of FREEHOLD properties, why go for LEASEHOLD??

Leasehold is cheap because it is precisely a LEASE.. and value will definitely starts to depreciates once remaining lease left 60 yrs old..
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i agreed. but can foreigner buy freehold property without getting MM2H?
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u will know it when market turns bad. Lh n fh now seems the same but u will feel the gap over long run.
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When the market turn bad all feel the same la..coz last time FH cost more than LH.
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When the market turn bad all feel the same la..coz last time FH cost more than LH.
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related or relative kua
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Better buy orchid view condo and get a larger unit + spend the saving for landed freehold in JB.
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Better buy orchid view condo and get a larger unit + spend the saving for landed freehold in JB.
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Any news on this peoject? Seems not making big impact huh
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anyone knows the latest sales chart for Princess Cove
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i agreed. but can foreigner buy freehold property without getting MM2H?
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Why not? No such restriction...

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Why not? Not such restriction...
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i think can.
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i think can.
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anyone knows the latest sales chart for Princess Cove
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Sold off 30% only......
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Sold off 30% only......
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Really??

Where u get the info??

Based on phase 1 release of 7 blocks?

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Sold off 30% only......
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Waiting and see the good offer later on.......
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Really??

Where u get the info??

Based on phase 1 release of 7 blocks?

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i tot 4 blocks only? anyway a c banker told me that their quota is almost full. about 100 to 150m per block...
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who gonna finance them after all the bank's quota is finished?
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who gonna finance them after all the bank's quota is finished?
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All the bank? Banyak bank lagi tiger bank r bank hk bank and many. Just c bank is the first mover
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i tot 4 blocks only? anyway a c banker told me that their quota is almost full. about 100 to 150m per block...
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What do u mean by Quota??

1st phase release is Block A1, A2, A7.. = 7 blocks cos A1-1, A1-2, A2-1, A2-2, A7-1, A7-2, A7-3

I think..
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I think this is good buy project compare with other project surrounding include medini. In terms of location maturity la..
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Got ppl queuing at KL sales gallery today?
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Got ppl queuing at KL sales gallery today?
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Today is worldwide launch ah?

Can share what is being launched and the current package?

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need to q???

they selling below 500psf is it?
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Got ppl queuing at KL sales gallery today?
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35,000 unit project oso need Q ?? Sure bor?? icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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need to q???

they selling below 500psf is it?
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RM500psf below market value.

QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Aug 16 2014, 01:24 PM)
35,000 unit project oso need Q ?? Sure bor??  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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Yes. This is once in a lifetime.
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RM500psf below market value.
Yes. This is once in a lifetime.
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I can see piling work already started just next to CIQ after land reclaimation early this year.
expected to see this project completed in 2017 or earlier!

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RM500psf below market value.
Yes. This is once in a lifetime.
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RM500psf below market value.
Yes. This is once in a lifetime.
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What is market value ??

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What is market value ??

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I know those seaview units has been secured by flippers and they are trying to flip for RM30K..

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Anyone from kl bought this?
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What is market value ??

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Market value is 1500psft.

But R&F only sell at 1000psft. Very cheap.
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no one buying in Jb la... even walk over also this condo super high density.. i reli wanna see who gona stay here when it VPs.
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Serious bubble in jb. More than 150,000 units in construction and another 150,000 units awaiting approval. Serious bubble happening in jb.
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Serious bubble in jb. More than 150,000 units in construction and another 150,000 units awaiting approval. Serious bubble happening in jb.
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I'm holding the same view that such a sudden surge in supply will not be absorbed by the market.
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JB... Thanks but no thanks. I won't put any feet on the water unless I have a clear exit plan.... Till date, I saw none.
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I'm holding the same view that such a sudden surge in supply will not be absorbed by the market.
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Another dubai property bubble in making. Its damn serious in making. Those greedy fella who make the bubble. But cant openly criticise here.
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JB... Thanks but no thanks. I won't put any feet on the water unless I have a clear exit plan.... Till date, I saw none.
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Keep away fr jb.
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i agreed iskandar will be another Dubai in making.
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Keep away fr jb.
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Wah! So many negative comments on JB. Personally, I think the pricing for this project is reasonable. Proximity to Singapore will never be emulated. But density may be too high. More suitable for long-term investment or own stay. Just m2c
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this is way more worse than dubai
I dont even think half d condos will be occupied.. it'll be only nice to take pics there.
BTW, i recently met one of d biggest n most influential developers in Iskandar n even he said the aim is just to sell condos n expect a large percentage of it to be idle
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this is way more worse than dubai
I dont even think half d condos will be occupied.. it'll be only nice to take pics there.
BTW, i recently met one of d biggest n most influential developers in Iskandar n even he said the aim is just to sell condos n expect a large percentage of it to be idle
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For those Mainland Chinese developers' projects, one of their target buyers are the Chinese investors and the fact is that there are quite a number of them too. I think one of the potential concerns upon VP then could be collection of maintenance fee from these foreign buyers. Practically how easy will the JMC be able to collect / chase after them for payments? Not a discrimination towards the foreign purchasers but will this be a potential issue?
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Aug 17 2014, 10:00 PM)
this is way more worse than dubai
I dont even think half d condos will be occupied.. it'll be only nice to take pics there.
BTW, i recently met one of d biggest n most influential developers in Iskandar n even he said the aim is just to sell condos n expect a large percentage of it to be idle
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this is coming from the most important devoloper in iskandar.
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For those Mainland Chinese developers' projects, one of their target buyers are the Chinese investors and the fact is that there are quite a number of them too.  I think one of the potential concerns upon VP then could be collection of maintenance fee from these foreign buyers.  Practically how easy will the JMC be able to collect / chase after them for payments?  Not a discrimination towards the foreign purchasers but will this be a potential issue?
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Haiya, maintenance fee? Not the main issue here. The issue is bubble.
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Aug 17 2014, 10:00 PM)
this is way more worse than dubai
I dont even think half d condos will be occupied.. it'll be only nice to take pics there.
BTW, i recently met one of d biggest n most influential developers in Iskandar n even he said the aim is just to sell condos n expect a large percentage of it to be idle
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Worse than dubai. No la.
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QUOTE(Rusby @ Aug 17 2014, 09:49 PM)
Wah! So many negative comments on JB. Personally, I think the pricing for this project is reasonable. Proximity to Singapore will never be emulated. But density may be too high. More suitable for long-term investment or own stay. Just m2c
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1000psf in JB is reasonable? Isn't that KL prices already?

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Aug 17 2014, 10:00 PM)
this is way more worse than dubai
I dont even think half d condos will be occupied.. it'll be only nice to take pics there.
BTW, i recently met one of d biggest n most influential developers in Iskandar n even he said the aim is just to sell condos n expect a large percentage of it to be idle
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IDLE but sold or IDLE cos not sold..

Very big difference here..

Cash rich investors that can hold can treat the condos as weekend stay..

Everyone keep saying that there is a bubble.. but price keep on going up...
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1000psf in JB is reasonable? Isn't that KL prices already?
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PM Lee just hinted that high speed rail will be in Jurong Lake area..

Basically, the whole project will go ahead...

In fact, looking at Singapore's current development of dispersing the CBD to outskirts and encouraging SME to move to Iskandar... etc..

I feel that Iskandar holds huge potential...

If the whole project really takes off, I am not surprised that some location will exceed KL pricing..

Again, location matters..

Woodlands North Business District is very interesting..
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In 3 years time, there will be a massive surplus of housing in JB. supplies will overcome demand.
Let's use CG as example. Half of century garden buyer were PRC. They wont stay there and most probably buy it for investment. With 9k units on sale, can u imagine at least 4.5k units will be competing to secure tenant @ danga bay area alone.I foresee some of them will skip on MF payment if the unit left vacant.
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Lets watch and see...might end up seeing an exodus of China man and women
With that kind of development going on, who knows it will be a new Chinatown ? Hahaha
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1000psf in JB is reasonable? Isn't that KL prices already?
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KL is rubbish place compared to Singapore. Because of R&F Princess Cove is the nearest to Singapore to any other project in JB, means RM1000psf is very very cheap compared to property in Singapore.

This is a gem. A masterpiece of property in the making.

Those that miss out will regret for their life. We'll see again in next few years.

Don't say I didn't tell you guys.

When other say JB property is bubble, its only other property. Not Princess Cove. This is standalone property.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 18 2014, 07:26 AM)
KL is rubbish place compared to Singapore. Because of R&F Princess Cove is the nearest to Singapore to any other project in JB, means RM1000psf is very very cheap compared to property in Singapore.

This is a gem. A masterpiece of property in the making.

Those that miss out will regret for their life. We'll see again in next few years.

Don't say I didn't tell you guys.

When other say JB property is bubble, its only other property. Not Princess Cove. This is standalone property.
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Standalone property? Kekeke...dont bring us to holland.
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Standalone property? Kekeke...dont bring us to holland.
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Yes, its just at the Singapore doorstep. DO you know where is R&F Princess Cove?
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Hows the official launch? Many ppl? Sales figure?
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Mah Sing property in bad location compared to Princess Cove. So when you say people all in Mah Sing launch, I doubt it. Probably its Mah Sing employee.
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ppl all at mah sing launch
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mah sing veri gud in their promotion. Lots of singaporean came to be the water fish.

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Yes, its just at the Singapore doorstep. DO you know where is R&F Princess Cove?
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Doorstep? Have you try to reach your doorstep fr singapore using this link after office hour? Sweetdream or nightmare? So near yet so far. Experience b4? Or we are talking about travelling at 12 midnight?
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Mah Sing property in bad location compared to Princess Cove. So when you say people all in Mah Sing launch, I doubt it. Probably its Mah Sing employee.
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Bad location? Sure? You know where is the location? Now its ghost town but not in future when iskandar developed.
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Mah Sing property in bad location compared to Princess Cove. So when you say people all in Mah Sing launch, I doubt it. Probably its Mah Sing employee.
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Bad location? Sure? You know where is the location? Now its ghost town but not in future when iskandar developed.
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I mean kl all at mah sing wahyu launch
Yesterday launch at majestic hotel kl slow
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Aug 18 2014, 08:39 AM)
Doorstep? Have you try to reach your doorstep fr singapore using this link after office hour? Sweetdream or nightmare? So near yet so far. Experience b4? Or we are talking about travelling at 12 midnight?
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Yes, its door step. Even if sometimes jammed, after jammed straight reached home.

QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Aug 18 2014, 08:41 AM)
Bad location? Sure? You know where is the location? Now its ghost town but not in future when iskandar developed.
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Yes, its bad location compared to R&F Princess Cove. Almost all project in Iskandar is going bust in the future due to oversupply.

But this Princess Cove is not in Iskandar. It is at Singapore doorstep. But at half of Singapore HDB flat price. Awesome location. Matured location. Best for investment. Even best for own stay. Its best for everything.
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QUOTE(airline @ Aug 18 2014, 08:47 AM)
I mean kl all at mah sing wahyu launch
Yesterday launch at majestic hotel kl slow
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 18 2014, 08:48 AM)
Yes, its door step. Even if sometimes jammed, after jammed straight reached home.
Yes, its bad location compared to R&F Princess Cove. Almost all project in Iskandar is going bust in the future due to oversupply.

But this Princess Cove is not in Iskandar. It is at Singapore doorstep. But at half of Singapore HDB flat price. Awesome location. Matured location. Best for investment. Even best for own stay. Its best for everything.
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Not sometimes jam la. Its EVERYTIME. Dont give false info. Pls experienced it yourself. Then you wouldnt want to take causeway. I rather take 2nd link. Its a NIGHTMARE. Thats y majority singaporean came here shopping not staying. Then the crime in jb compared to singapore, you think singaporean prefer jb to stay?
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Aug 18 2014, 08:55 AM)
Not sometimes jam la. Its EVERYTIME. Dont give false info. Pls experienced it yourself. Then you wouldnt want to take causeway. I rather take 2nd link. Its a NIGHTMARE. Thats y majority singaporean came here shopping not staying. Then the crime in jb compared to singapore, you think singaporean prefer jb to stay?
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For driving:-
1) Singaporean can buy Princess Cove for weekend stay/shopping.
2) JB people can buy if working in Singapore because you straight home after jam in causeway.

Well, Princess Cove is one of the MRT station straight to Singapore. To be built in the future.

For MRT:-
1) JB people can buy if working in Singapore. Can take MRT downstairs.
2) Singaporean can buy here if they think Singapore property too high. At least this condo is very very near to Singapore. Easier to travel.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 18 2014, 09:00 AM)
For driving:-
1) Singaporean can buy Princess Cove for weekend stay/shopping.
2) JB people can buy if working in Singapore because you straight home after jam in causeway.

Well, Princess Cove is one of the MRT station straight to Singapore. To be built in the future.

For MRT:-
1) JB people can buy if working in Singapore. Can take MRT downstairs.
2) Singaporean can buy here if they think Singapore property too high. At least this condo is very very near to Singapore. Easier to travel.
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Weekend stay only? Can help to sustain property bubble. Mrt? Donkey years to realise. Then if bubble tomorrow, can help sustain the price? We are talking current property bubble. If burst tomorrow, thus so call standalone just in progress looks die standing. Whn surrounding price crash, all the balls sure no where to be found. Maybe left those steel balls. Lets talk realistically. You talking more fr sales man point of view. Dont lead those innocent to holland. Can standalone? Are we so naive and innocent?
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Aug 18 2014, 09:09 AM)
Weekend stay only? Can help to sustain property bubble. Mrt? Donkey years to realise. Then if bubble tomorrow, can help sustain the price? We are talking current property bubble. If burst tomorrow, thus so call standalone just in  progress looks die standing. Whn surrounding price crash, all the balls sure no where to be found. Maybe left those steel balls. Lets talk realistically. You talking more fr sales man point of view. Dont lead those innocent to holland. Can standalone? Are we so naive and innocent?
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Can standalone one. Its like Manhattan property price. Eventhough whole USA property price crash, but Manhattan is barely affected.

Furthermore, RM1000sqft is cheap compared to surrounding RM1500psft.

If surrounding crash to RM1000psft, so Princess Cove still can hold the price.

if there's no crash, Princess Cove can increase to RM1500psft.

So no matter crash or no crash also Princess Cove win. Comprendre? rclxm9.gif
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3 bedroom at princess cove can achieve 4k rental?
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3 bedroom at princess cove can achieve 4k rental?
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Good question...who wan to rent from u????
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QUOTE(bigman @ Aug 18 2014, 09:31 AM)
Good question...who wan to rent from u????
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When you buy property, make sure you have money to sustain your property.

If you buy nearby property at RM1500psft, its even worse.

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When you buy property, make sure you have money to sustain your property.

If you buy nearby property at RM1500psft, its even worse.
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3 bedroom at princess cove can achieve 4k rental?
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Think is untested market...

Hopefully my 2 BR can be rented out for RM 3.5k when TOP...

Mine is Type G..
Very good layout..

Perhaps I can rent it to those freelancer prostitutes for higher rental...
They can conduct their *business and yet have 24 hrs guard protection from the security..
The video camera gate can let them pick customer... LOL
With the 5 star hotel nearby, this is good demand !!

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 18 2014, 09:12 AM)
Can standalone one. Its like Manhattan property price. Eventhough whole USA property price crash, but Manhattan is barely affected.

Furthermore, RM1000sqft is cheap compared to surrounding RM1500psft.

If surrounding crash to RM1000psft, so Princess Cove still can hold the price.

if there's no crash, Princess Cove can increase to RM1500psft.

So no matter crash or no crash also Princess Cove win. Comprendre?  rclxm9.gif
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Compare JB with Manhattan? This make me laugh like shit....

KL is nowhere near Manhattan...JB can meh?

Comprede? biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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Compare JB with Manhattan? This make me laugh like shit....

KL is nowhere near Manhattan...JB can meh?

Comprede?  biggrin.gif  tongue.gif
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This is like lower east side Manhattan near Chinatown.
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feel like this place gonna be kookookai cannon room. and crime rate will all time high at jb.

those singpipu will come out a mindset those singpipu stay jb side is low class singpipu. a little bit macam penang island and penang mainland. and this place jb only for bolehland guli to stay.

sing taukeh can cut down cost even further for those bolehland guli stay at jb. average bolehland guli can pay so high rental? and eventually they will setup a company here just to pay cheap ringgit to bolehland guli and bangala kuli. no need pay sing dollar rate.

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 18 2014, 10:41 AM)
This is like lower east side Manhattan near Chinatown.
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Having you in this thread, Princess Cove should sell at 600 PSF.....
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 18 2014, 07:26 AM)
KL is rubbish place compared to Singapore. Because of R&F Princess Cove is the nearest to Singapore to any other project in JB, means RM1000psf is very very cheap compared to property in Singapore.

This is a gem. A masterpiece of property in the making.

Those that miss out will regret for their life. We'll see again in next few years.

Don't say I didn't tell you guys.

When other say JB property is bubble, its only other property. Not Princess Cove. This is standalone property.
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Princess Cove is in JB, not Singapore.

Nearest to Singapore doesn't mean it's the best location. The surrounding areas are very run down. Nobody would think living right next to the CIQ customs (border crossing) is ideal.

The price has already priced in seamless MRT connection to Singapore. This may not materialize.

There is no such thing as standalone property. If JB market crash, all developments are affected.

A 3 room HDB in woodlands is about 64 sq m and costs SGD 300k for subsale. This makes princess cove similarly priced at 800k RM for a 2 bedroom unit. might as well stay or rent in Woodlands.

For example: this is a 3 room flat for sale in Woodlands.
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/hdb...-drive-18147535


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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 18 2014, 09:12 AM)
Can standalone one. Its like Manhattan property price. Eventhough whole USA property price crash, but Manhattan is barely affected.

Furthermore, RM1000sqft is cheap compared to surrounding RM1500psft.

If surrounding crash to RM1000psft, so Princess Cove still can hold the price.

if there's no crash, Princess Cove can increase to RM1500psft.

So no matter crash or no crash also Princess Cove win. Comprendre?  rclxm9.gif
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The more you try to justify the so call standalone status, the more shit coming out. Your justification really syiok sendiri. Good luck to all investor.
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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Aug 18 2014, 10:48 AM)
feel like this place gonna be kookookai cannon room. and crime rate will all time high at jb.

those singpipu will come out a mindset those singpipu stay jb side is low class singpipu. a little bit macam penang island and penang mainland. and this place jb only for bolehland guli to stay. 

sing taukeh can cut down cost even further for those bolehland guli stay at jb. average bolehland guli can pay so high rental? and eventually they will setup a company here just to pay cheap ringgit to bolehland guli and bangala kuli.  no need pay sing dollar rate.
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Sure kokkokkai.
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better stay away from JB...the bubble is getting bigger n bigger...try to ask who put money in JB/Iskandar property market...any exit plan? the answer given always can rent it out first...or a lot singaporeans wan to stay...

but really like tat?

just waiting for mega sales after 3 or 4 years.. from now. tongue.gif

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Sure kokkokkai.
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wakaka... those invested here better pray bolehland authority don't sapu kokokai here. only kokokais are the main tenant here .might vacant for 2-3 months until big wind goes off.
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KL is rubbish place compared to Singapore. Because of R&F Princess Cove is the nearest to Singapore to any other project in JB, means RM1000psf is very very cheap compared to property in Singapore.
This is a gem. A masterpiece of property in the making.

Those that miss out will regret for their life. We'll see again in next few years.

Don't say I didn't tell you guys.

When other say JB property is bubble, its only other property. Not Princess Cove. This is standalone property.
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On what basis you can claim KL is a rubbish place compared to Singapore.

I think this thread with you around, everyone will boycott this f***ed-up project.
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On what basis you can claim KL is a rubbish place compared to Singapore.

I think this thread with you around, everyone will boycott this f***ed-up project.
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By comparison, KL is rubbish place lor. Singapore high standard mah. You dunno meh? Why you so angry. icon_question.gif
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By comparison, KL is rubbish place lor. Singapore high standard mah. You dunno meh? Why you so angry.  icon_question.gif
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Both cities are unique in different manner. How can you say KL is rubbish?

I think you are rubbish. vmad.gif mad.gif
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Both cities are unique in different manner. How can you say KL is rubbish?

I think you are rubbish. vmad.gif  mad.gif
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Hehe.. you come here to troll my Princess Cove a.k.a. Singapore doorstep for what? laugh.gif
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Both cities are unique in different manner. How can you say KL is rubbish?

I think you are rubbish. vmad.gif  mad.gif
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tengster tai kor no need too angry with the people so called high standard...i just can see he like a pity doggy stand infront of "doorstep "...waiting kok kok kai to come .. tongue.gif
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tengster tai kor no need too angry with the people so called high standard...i just can see he like a pity doggy stand infront of "doorstep "...waiting kok kok kai to come .. tongue.gif
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Why you guys troll in this thread if not interested to buy ne? doh.gif
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Hehe.. you come here to troll my Princess Cove a.k.a. Singapore doorstep for what?  laugh.gif
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You are the troll. You failed to discuss with point but chose to trash KL as RUBBISH....


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You are the troll. You failed to discuss with point but chose to trash KL as RUBBISH....
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Well, its just comparison mah. You ask people who is better? Singapore or KL. Sure everyone say Singapore right? KL got a lot of rubbish compared to Singapore mah.
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QUOTE(bigman @ Aug 18 2014, 11:36 AM)
tengster tai kor no need too angry with the people so called high standard...i just can see he like a pity doggy stand infront of "doorstep "...waiting kok kok kai to come .. tongue.gif
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His presence gave this project a crap reputation.

I can discuss points (GBU) with Zelphon (who has an exit plan)...but this troll (aka gogo2) can simply claimed KL is rubbish. That is below the belt.
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Well, its just comparison mah. You ask people who is better? Singapore or KL. Sure everyone say Singapore right? KL got a lot of rubbish compared to Singapore mah.
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Now you try to gostan.... Which cities dont have rubbishes?
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Now you try to gostan.... Which cities dont have rubbishes?
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Singapore have less lor.

Aiya, we discuss here no need angry one la.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 18 2014, 11:38 AM)
Why you guys troll in this thread if not interested to buy ne?  doh.gif
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Not troll. Just debate.
Your selling points are just too weak. Nearby just across Singapore. Mrt. Standalone. Whole world property crash, this only one in the world can sustained. Use for weekend stay. Kl rubbish.
WTF. All misleading. Lead to Holland.
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Not troll. Just debate.
Your selling points are just too weak. Nearby just across Singapore. Mrt. Standalone. Whole world property crash, this only one in the world can sustained. Use for weekend stay. Kl rubbish.
WTF. All misleading. Lead to Holland.
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Weak meh? I thought its location, location, location? hmm.gif
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Singapore have less lor.

Aiya, we discuss here no need angry one la.
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You are not discussing. You said KL is RUBBISH>> Princess Cove is rubbish too.
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Weak meh? I thought its location, location, location?  hmm.gif
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In normal circumstances, this would be a good location. At this moment, the biggest concern is the bubble with such hugh development by china developer flooding the jb market and how the market can absorb it. Selling also slow down. Later secondary market also down. Later become ghost town. Later fire sales. Thn crash. Such hugh development dont do good for property market. It do more harm.
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QUOTE(tengster @ Aug 18 2014, 11:44 AM)
His presence gave this project a crap reputation.

I can discuss points (GBU) with Zelphon (who has an exit plan)...but this troll (aka gogo2) can simply claimed KL is rubbish. That is below the belt.
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Tks bro..

I posted below in another forum..
Copied and paste here for further discussion....
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PM Lee just hinted that high speed rail will be in Jurong Lake area..
Basically, the whole project will go ahead...

Obviously, Jurong Gateway is now in focus...
Jurong East has been transformed a lot in a mere 1 year with J cube.. Westgate.. And upcoming projects like Big Box... etc

In fact, looking at Singapore's current development of dispersing the CBD to outskirts and encouraging SME to move to Iskandar... etc..
I feel that Iskandar holds huge potential...
If the whole project really takes off, I am not surprised that some location will exceed KL pricing..
Again, location matters..

Previously, it was Changi Business Park.. Then Jurong Gateway with HSR..
Next one should be Woodlands Northern Gateway..

Woodlands Northern Gateway Business District is very interesting..

http://www.todayonline.com/business/proper...-housing-prices

http://sbr.com.sg/commercial-property/news...100000-new-jobs


With this and RTS and Grade A Office of R&F in phase 1...
Everything seems to fit nicely right?

Finally there is some sort of collaboration planning between Singapore and Johor..

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Even from R&F u'll need to walk >600m b4 reaching CIQ.
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Even from R&F u'll need to walk >600m b4 reaching CIQ.
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Initially , I have placed a booking but however doesn't proceed with the S&P due to few reasons:
1) recent hike of toll charges by Johor , pending VEP collection by Johor and pending increase of toll charges by Sgp.
2) R&F unable to provide clear picture on the shopping ctr shop lots . Not confirm if it is manage by R&F similar to REIT .
3) Probable signs of over supply .
4) I believed more than 50% still unsold.

I will defer my decision for a few months . Meanwhile , I will be looking at the impact on the upcoming launching of Vantage Bay
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50% unsold? Good.
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when sing sme come johor open business setup company lagi jialat.
bolehland kuli cannot go earn sing dollar liao. all pay low local rate salary.
jialat liao no bolehland kuli afford to stay new expensive condo at jb.

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Initially , I have placed a booking but however doesn't proceed with the S&P due to few reasons:
1) recent hike of toll charges by Johor , pending VEP collection by Johor and pending increase of toll charges by Sgp.
2) R&F unable to provide clear picture on the shopping ctr shop lots . Not confirm if it is manage by R&F similar to REIT .
3) Probable signs of over supply .
4) I believed more than 50% still unsold.

I will defer my decision for a few months . Meanwhile , I will be  looking at the impact on the upcoming launching of Vantage Bay
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All your four points are valid good points. If you don't have a good exit plan, I think you are making an informed decision.

The 600 meter is about 7-8 min walk. Not too bad...
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n also under jialat soh*m royal power there can make the whole jb jialat anytime. sibeh unstable.

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For driving:-
1) Singaporean can buy Princess Cove for weekend stay/shopping.
2) JB people can buy if working in Singapore because you straight home after jam in causeway.

Well, Princess Cove is one of the MRT station straight to Singapore. To be built in the future.

For MRT:-
1) JB people can buy if working in Singapore. Can take MRT downstairs.
2) Singaporean can buy here if they think Singapore property too high. At least this condo is very very near to Singapore. Easier to travel.
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Seriously...Singaporeans would probably buy it for future investment, for own stay lol...
It still did not change the fact that you have to cross nations , and seeing the fact that singaporeans are proud people i wouldnt think they would stay in JB and travel everyday.


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QUOTE(bigman @ Aug 18 2014, 11:07 AM)
better stay away from JB...the bubble is getting bigger n bigger...try to ask who put money in JB/Iskandar property market...any exit plan? the answer given always can rent it out first...or a lot singaporeans wan to stay...

but really like tat?

just waiting for mega sales after 3 or 4 years.. from now. tongue.gif
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AGREED....overinflated price with high risk investment..bad bad idea..
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Initially , I have placed a booking but however doesn't proceed with the S&P due to few reasons:
1) recent hike of toll charges by Johor , pending VEP collection by Johor and pending increase of toll charges by Sgp.
2) R&F unable to provide clear picture on the shopping ctr shop lots . Not confirm if it is manage by R&F similar to REIT .
3) Probable signs of over supply .
4) I believed more than 50% still unsold.

I will defer my decision for a few months . Meanwhile , I will be  looking at the impact on the upcoming launching of Vantage Bay
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All points are valid except point 4..

50% unsold?

I think they are releasing the units very very slowly...
I know that during the VVIP launch of 7 block... At least 30% of that sold..


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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Aug 19 2014, 07:34 PM)
All points are valid except point 4..

50% unsold?

I think they are releasing the units very very slowly...
I know that during the VVIP launch of 7 block... At least 30% of that sold..
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R&F advertised two full pages on NST last Sat . The disclaimer stated 868 units available . If R&F were to launch two years ago , it will selling like hot cakes .
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Aug 17 2014, 07:09 PM)
Weekend stay only? Can help to sustain property bubble. Mrt? Donkey years to realise. Then if bubble tomorrow, can help sustain the price? We are talking current property bubble. If burst tomorrow, thus so call standalone just in  progress looks die standing. Whn surrounding price crash, all the balls sure no where to be found. Maybe left those steel balls. Lets talk realistically. You talking more fr sales man point of view. Dont lead those innocent to holland. Can standalone? Are we so naive and innocent?
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cloud kor, a few people here like gogo have vested interests in R*F..maybe they are paid or what but I can assure u 100% that Princess Cove's density is far greater than what u guys think..

If u look at the development plan, you will realize that some land on the right n left portions have no development plans. This is cos the land has problems like it's soft etc, hence it can't support condo's etc. This makes the other area's more densed to achieve Princess Cove's high plot ratio of more than 10!
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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Aug 19 2014, 05:34 AM)
All points are valid except point 4..

50% unsold?

I think they are releasing the units very very slowly...
I know that during the VVIP launch of 7 block... At least 30% of that sold..
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they know demand in Iskandar is tapering d.. political instability in Johor is extremely high..flip flop policies are changing day in day out.. go to any honest singaporean forum n u will see them saying that they will NOT invest in johor anymore..


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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Aug 18 2014, 09:09 AM)
Weekend stay only? Can help to sustain property bubble. Mrt? Donkey years to realise. Then if bubble tomorrow, can help sustain the price? We are talking current property bubble. If burst tomorrow, thus so call standalone just in  progress looks die standing. Whn surrounding price crash, all the balls sure no where to be found. Maybe left those steel balls. Lets talk realistically. You talking more fr sales man point of view. Dont lead those innocent to holland. Can standalone? Are we so naive and innocent?
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Singaporean will abandon every inch of land in Johor when downturn happen. They have too many choices, unlike Malaysian. Johorean will have to swallow the disaster alone which I don't see they are capable enough to handle it until this point of time.

Singapore money = hot money
they never, and will never plan to root in Boleh land!!

Kiasu land people also damn Kia si.. no one tell you before gogo2?

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Singaporean will laugh at opposite shore after they have packed their bags during bad times.

It's not build by Singapore developer, whole project / Iskandar die also non of their business. They won't give a damn about it.

Ask yourself, yourself.
If Iskandar so good? Why don't Singapore developers come to build and then sell back to their own peoples? Isn't that Singaporean will be more willing to buy if like that?

Why only those ghost town builders from Land of great wall willing to venture into this place?

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 18 2014, 09:12 AM)
Can standalone one. Its like Manhattan property price. Eventhough whole USA property price crash, but Manhattan is barely affected.

Furthermore, RM1000sqft is cheap compared to surrounding RM1500psft.

If surrounding crash to RM1000psft, so Princess Cove still can hold the price.

if there's no crash, Princess Cove can increase to RM1500psft.

So no matter crash or no crash also Princess Cove win. Comprendre?  rclxm9.gif
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Don't just simply say and syok yourself only. Manhattan is the home of many richest in the states, it's the place where the 1% are rooted. 99% of wealth are recycling and kept within this place.

What do Johore have? a place where Singaporean called "home "?

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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Aug 18 2014, 10:55 AM)
Princess Cove is in JB, not Singapore.

Nearest to Singapore doesn't mean it's the best location. The surrounding areas are very run down. Nobody would think living right next to the CIQ customs (border crossing) is ideal.
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His theory is like Palestine = Israel
Israel is so rich, then better buy more house in Palestine laugh.gif LOL
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 18 2014, 11:30 AM)
Hehe.. you come here to troll my Princess Cove a.k.a. Singapore doorstep for what?  laugh.gif
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KV threads you also post DDD / over supplied / bubble shitt everywhere whistling.gif

QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 18 2014, 07:26 AM)
KL is rubbish place compared to Singapore. Because of R&F Princess Cove is the nearest to Singapore

This is a gem. A masterpiece of property in the making.

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 18 2014, 11:26 AM)
By comparison, KL is rubbish place lor. Singapore high standard mah. You dunno meh? Why you so angry.  icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 18 2014, 10:40 AM)
House price crash in 2015. You can start buying in 2015.
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You're so confident crash will be happen in 2015 and keep posting this shitt everywhere.

I demand for your official apology if above statement you claimed did not happen on 1st Jan 2016 !!


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QUOTE(Cw3677 @ Aug 19 2014, 08:05 PM)
R&F advertised two full pages on NST last Sat . The disclaimer stated 868 units available . If R&F were to launch two years ago , it will selling like hot cakes .
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To developer launching timing is important. Just like cg selling like hot cake with mainlanders support.

Imho for buyer the timing of vp is more important than buying.If u buy a project that is fully sold n well sought after during launching but vp during recession or crisis, you will face the impact as well.

just like entering a university during economic boom but graduate in crisis
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QUOTE(InF.anime @ Aug 20 2014, 04:46 AM)
His theory is like Palestine = Israel
Israel is so rich, then better buy more house in Palestine laugh.gif LOL
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What I dislike about R&F PC is that said location is actually a terribly run down location in JB. You won't see a KLCC or Mont' Kiara crowd there for sure. And the pricing is more expensive than KL. chee sin. At 1000rm per sq ft, many more choices in KL. The kind of crowd that commutes daily to Singapore and stays in JB will not pay high rental, either. So it's likely this same group won't be renting at R&F. Buy for own stay is OK. Invest? Bad idea.

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QUOTE(InF.anime @ Aug 20 2014, 04:38 AM)
Don't just simply say and syok yourself only. Manhattan is the home of many richest in the states, it's the place where the  1% are rooted. 99% of wealth are recycling and kept within this place.

What do Johore have? a place where Singaporean called "home "?
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Singapore = Manhattan
JB = lower east side Manhattan/New Jersey/Brooklyn LOLOLOL....

QUOTE(InF.anime @ Aug 20 2014, 04:46 AM)
His theory is like Palestine = Israel
Israel is so rich, then better buy more house in Palestine laugh.gif LOL
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Does not sound logical at all. We all know Palestine is terrorist country. Malaysia is not.

QUOTE(Cocoon @ Aug 20 2014, 05:56 AM)
To developer launching timing is important. Just like cg selling like hot cake with mainlanders support.

Imho for buyer the timing of vp is more important than buying.If u buy a project that is fully sold n well sought after during launching but vp during recession or crisis, you will face the impact as well.

just like entering a university during economic boom but graduate in crisis
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True. Now is property crisis. Should buy now. When Princess Cove VP, then property will rise up from ash again like Phoenix.

QUOTE(corleone74 @ Aug 20 2014, 06:28 AM)
What I dislike about R&F PC is that said location is actually a terribly run down location in JB. You won't see a KLCC or Mont' Kiara crowd there for sure. And the pricing is more expensive than KL. chee sin. At 1000rm per sq ft, many more choices in KL. The kind of crowd that commutes daily to Singapore and stays in JB will not pay high rental, either. So it's likely this same group won't be renting at R&F. Buy for own stay is OK. Invest? Bad idea.
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Well, Princess Cove haven't really go into JB town yet. Its straight after the causeway. rclxms.gif
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Rnf holiao. The buy of lifetime. Dun buy means zaobou
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 20 2014, 08:24 AM)
Singapore = Manhattan
JB = lower east side Manhattan/New Jersey/Brooklyn LOLOLOL....
Does not sound logical at all. We all know Palestine is terrorist country. Malaysia is not.
True. Now is property crisis. Should buy now. When Princess Cove VP, then property will rise up from ash again like Phoenix.
Well, Princess Cove haven't really go into JB town yet. Its straight after the causeway.  rclxms.gif
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gogo2 gogo3 gogo4, i m speechless with your response. You,ve beaten all of us. You are the champion now.
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Aug 20 2014, 08:43 AM)
gogo2 gogo3 gogo4, i m speechless with your response. You,ve beaten all of us. You are the champion now.
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go go go...go to "Holland".... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Aug 20 2014, 08:43 AM)
gogo2 gogo3 gogo4, i m speechless with your response. You,ve beaten all of us. You are the champion now.
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Now, after you're beaten, please go buy Princess Cove. Oh wai... probably you can't afford it... LOLOLOL

QUOTE(bigman @ Aug 20 2014, 08:44 AM)
go go go...go to "Holland".... tongue.gif
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You got chance to go Holland or not? laugh.gif
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go go go...go to "Holland".... tongue.gif
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I declare I am buying one. Dont envy me yeah ; D
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Rnf holiao. The buy of lifetime. Dun buy means zaobou
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So u buying 10 units for milk? Kekeke
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 20 2014, 08:53 AM)
Now, after you're beaten, please go buy Princess Cove. Oh wai... probably you can't afford it... LOLOLOL
You got chance to go Holland or not?  laugh.gif
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one of my client from Netherland.... i really like tat country...but for ur case...is No No No...
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 20 2014, 08:53 AM)
Now, after you're beaten, please go buy Princess Cove. Oh wai... probably you can't afford it... LOLOLOL
You got chance to go Holland or not?  laugh.gif
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I m waiting for the crash and chap sei kai next year. R&Y sure full of dead chicken next year.
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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Aug 20 2014, 08:57 AM)
So u buying 10 units for milk? Kekeke
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After listening to gogo gor, I paid down 5 flrs. One for my parent fil mil, another flr for myself + milks, another 3 flrs for kids, grandkids, n great grandkids.

CBHSL
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QUOTE(bigman @ Aug 20 2014, 08:57 AM)
one of my client from Netherland.... i really like tat country...but for ur case...is No No No...
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Your client mah, not you.

QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Aug 20 2014, 09:00 AM)
I m waiting for the crash and chap sei kai next year. R&Y sure full of dead chicken next year.
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R&F la bro. Femes China company. Good then.

QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Aug 20 2014, 09:02 AM)
After listening to gogo gor, I paid down 5 flrs. One for my parent fil mil, another flr for myself + milks, another 3 flrs for kids, grandkids, n great grandkids.

CBHSL
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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Aug 20 2014, 06:28 AM)
What I dislike about R&F PC is that said location is actually a terribly run down location in JB. You won't see a KLCC or Mont' Kiara crowd there for sure. And the pricing is more expensive than KL. chee sin. At 1000rm per sq ft, many more choices in KL. The kind of crowd that commutes daily to Singapore and stays in JB will not pay high rental, either. So it's likely this same group won't be renting at R&F. Buy for own stay is OK. Invest? Bad idea.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 20 2014, 09:07 AM)
Your client mah, not you.
R&F la bro. Femes China company. Good then.
LOLOLOLOL
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Give la some more convincing point to substantiate and justify this standalone property. Otherwise who going to buy? Then you tell pipu next year crash. How to sale this property?
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Aug 20 2014, 09:15 AM)
Give la some more convincing point to substantiate and justify this standalone property. Otherwise who going to buy? Then you tell pipu next year crash. How to sale this property?
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LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION


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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 20 2014, 09:15 AM)
LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION
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Run while you still alive..
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Run while you still alive..
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 20 2014, 08:24 AM)
Singapore = Manhattan
JB = lower east side Manhattan/New Jersey/Brooklyn LOLOLOL....
Does not sound logical at all. We all know Palestine is terrorist country. Malaysia is not.
True. Now is property crisis. Should buy now. When Princess Cove VP, then property will rise up from ash again like Phoenix.
Well, Princess Cove haven't really go into JB town yet. Its straight after the causeway.  rclxms.gif
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manhattan, new jersey, brooklyn= Sing and JB?? tak masuk akal ler.
m,n,b all still within 1 america country.
sing and jb 2 different country and law also different ler.
and jb got 3 sohem laws screw u anytime. if sing campur main jb get screw 4 sides.
macam ask jb to sing lionland national song.

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Well,

I see R&F as a medium risk bet..

RTS confirmation at end 2014 will be one potential catalyst..
Another catalyst will be the approval of phase 2 where the Grade A office tower and 5 star hotel will be built on reclaimed land..

Now attention should be focused on Peter Lim's Vantage Bay..
Heard going to be launched soon...

RTS location is either near R&F or Vantage Bay..
Vantage Bay Sales and Market Material and Pricing will be indicative on RTS location as well..
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Hmm, any idea what's the bank providing financing for this project? Are they able to provide 90% financing since this is really way overpriced.
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QUOTE(Asgaard @ Aug 20 2014, 03:08 PM)
Hmm,  any idea what's the bank providing financing for this project?  Are they able to provide 90% financing since this is really way overpriced.
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Over price meh. I tot ppl oredi selling at 1200 to 1500 psf. Tis one average 800psf nia. U from other planet? Really from asgard???
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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Aug 20 2014, 03:39 PM)
Over price meh. I tot ppl oredi selling at 1200 to 1500 psf. Tis one average 800psf nia. U from other planet?  Really from asgard???
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QUOTE(Asgaard @ Aug 20 2014, 03:08 PM)
Hmm,  any idea what's the bank providing financing for this project?  Are they able to provide 90% financing since this is really way overpriced.
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Boss financing up to 90% is determined by one's capability to repay and oso according to dov regulation, onli 3rd house onward ll prohibit one fr getting 90%.

Regarding overpriced, its vely subjective as some ll bite it like peanuts.

Personally dun think its a bad thg to b at tis price. Noone wanna buy a house n price keep goin cheaper over the time. I blif any1 oso like their props price to keep goin up. NO???
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Aug 20 2014, 02:56 AM)
cloud kor, a few people here like gogo have vested interests in R*F..maybe they are paid or what but I can assure u 100% that Princess Cove's density is far greater than what u guys think..

If u look at the development plan, you will realize that some land on the right n left portions have no development plans. This is cos the land has problems like it's soft etc, hence it can't support condo's etc. This makes the other area's more densed to achieve Princess Cove's high plot ratio of more than 10!
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Vested interest not an issue. But to claim this is a standalone property that can resist earthquake and bubble, wa beh tahan with his claim. Full support buyers fr singapore. Thats y wont be affected by bubble. His claim of standalone is leading us to holland. Then kl full of rubbish. This place no rubbish? Tns.

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Aug 20 2014, 04:07 PM)
Boss financing up to 90% is determined by one's capability to repay and oso according to dov regulation, onli 3rd house onward ll prohibit one fr getting 90%.

Regarding overpriced, its vely subjective as some ll bite it like peanuts.

Personally dun think its a bad thg to b at tis price. Noone wanna buy a house n price keep goin cheaper over the time. I blif any1 oso like their props price to keep goin up. NO???
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Bank will evaluate a project before deciding to be end Financer. Bank will ask independent valuer to give comments, valuations, opinions, etc. Not all bank will give 90% no matter how good a customer profile is. Yes, standard is 90% as its widely seen in market. But not all bank gives 90% financing for each project. Some banks even cap it to 70% and that's why the developer sales officer never bother to even promote it to the customers cos they know customers only care abt 90%.
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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Aug 20 2014, 03:39 PM)
Over price meh. I tot ppl oredi selling at 1200 to 1500 psf. Tis one average 800psf nia. U from other planet?  Really from asgard???
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I know u bought a unit that's why u said like that. If u got Fren working as independent valuers, u try ask them. Some banks don't even want finance this project and the other country danga Bay from China developer also..
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QUOTE(Asgaard @ Aug 20 2014, 07:29 PM)
I know u bought a unit that's why u said like that. If u got Fren working as independent valuers,  u try ask them.  Some banks don't even want finance this project and the other country danga Bay from China developer also..
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As far as I know tiger bank cimx bank hsbx bank are giving loans for this project. May be u r referring to banks in asgards not financing it then could be true... so u win

R u thor? I mortal human only but u dont make my fren hulk angry ya cause i know he also booked an unit there kekekeke
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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Aug 20 2014, 08:12 PM)
As far as I know tiger bank cimx bank hsbx bank are giving loans for this project. May be u r referring to banks in asgards not financing it then could be true... so u win

R u thor? I mortal human only but u dont make my fren hulk angry ya cause i know he also booked an unit there kekekeke
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Do you believe gogo2 this is a standalone property that can resist bubble?
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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Aug 20 2014, 08:12 PM)
As far as I know tiger bank cimx bank hsbx bank are giving loans for this project. May be u r referring to banks in asgards not financing it then could be true... so u win

R u thor? I mortal human only but u dont make my fren hulk angry ya cause i know he also booked an unit there kekekeke
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Do you believe gogo2 this is a standalone property that can resist bubble?
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If gogo gor says no one can escape fr econ down, mean he is actually contradicting his view. How can a project b standalone when everyone is affected???
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Do you believe gogo2 this is a standalone property that can resist bubble?
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Of coz not!
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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Aug 20 2014, 02:54 PM)
Well,

I see R&F as a medium risk bet..

RTS confirmation at end 2014 will be one potential catalyst..
Another catalyst will be the approval of phase 2 where the Grade A office tower and 5 star hotel will be built on reclaimed land..

Now attention should be focused on Peter Lim's Vantage Bay..
Heard going to be launched soon...

RTS location is either near R&F or Vantage Bay..
Vantage Bay Sales and Market Material and Pricing will be indicative on RTS location as well..
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Zelphon boss is only one of the few talk sense In this thread. Mr ho cs said the rts is in between princess cove later phase
N vantage bay in which is still sea to be reclaimed later.

Once rts is firmed up the buying interest will come back. Better sapu now.
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Aug 20 2014, 08:27 PM)
If gogo gor says no one can escape fr econ down, mean he is actually contradicting his view. How can a project b standalone when everyone is affected???
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That why most DDD like gogo gor always talkok. Always contradict.
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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Aug 20 2014, 09:39 PM)
Zelphon boss is only one of the few talk sense In this thread. Mr ho cs said the rts is in between princess cove later phase
  N vantage bay in which is still sea to be reclaimed later.

Once rts is firmed up the buying interest will come back. Better sapu now.
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Yes... He is the only sensible guy who see through the project and done enough homework to justify his purchase. He has clear exit plan, unlike others.

Two thumbs UP....

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QUOTE(tengster @ Aug 20 2014, 09:44 PM)
Yes... He is the only sensible guy who see through the project and done enough homework to justify his purchase. He has clear exit plan, unlike others.

Two thumbs UP....

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Many also just taruk this project without valid reasons. I bet they also got vested interest may be bought at other so so location at much higher price. Now cha 9 dao kekeke

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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Aug 20 2014, 09:39 PM)
Zelphon boss is only one of the few talk sense In this thread. Mr ho cs said the rts is in between princess cove later phase
  N vantage bay in which is still sea to be reclaimed later.

Once rts is firmed up the buying interest will come back. Better sapu now.
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Me not BOSS lah..

I am merely a Singaporean driven by desperation due to f***ed up PAP policies and thus needed an AFFORDABLE EXIT STRATEGY...

Now some PAP scums already talking about 10 million population target when we already have so much infrastructure issues now..

Rather than wait to be displaced or left to die after being bled dry by PAP..
Better to take some calculated risks for future survival..

If not under desperation, I will be like my Sinkie peers and my Malaysian peers who totally advised against believing in Iskandar Hype and only invest in Penang or KL properties...

In fact, my wife tried to persuade me against buying Malaysian Properties...

U know lah..

CLOB saga... Policies flipflop.. etc...


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Yes, its door step. Even if sometimes jammed, after jammed straight reached home.
Yes, its bad location compared to R&F Princess Cove. Almost all project in Iskandar is going bust in the future due to oversupply.

But this Princess Cove is not in Iskandar. It is at Singapore doorstep. But at half of Singapore HDB flat price. Awesome location. Matured location. Best for investment. Even best for own stay. Its best for everything.
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At half hdb price???? Poor man, u dont even know what is hdb price....
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Me not BOSS lah..

I am merely a Singaporean driven by desperation due to f***ed up PAP policies and thus needed an AFFORDABLE EXIT STRATEGY...

Now some PAP scums already talking about 10 million population target when we already have so much infrastructure issues now..

Rather than wait to be displaced or left to die after being bled dry by PAP..
Better to take some calculated risks for future survival..

If not under desperation, I will be like my Sinkie peers and my Malaysian peers who totally advised against believing in Iskandar Hype and only invest in Penang or KL properties...

In fact, my wife tried to persuade me against buying Malaysian Properties...

U know lah..

CLOB saga... Policies flipflop.. etc...
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keeping a hdb ll be a gem once population hits 10 million...at current state, the place already so crowded...

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At half hdb price???? Poor man, u dont even know what is hdb price....
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3 room HDB flat in Marsiling is only SGD 300K , subsale. New HDB flat will be even cheaper for first time Singaporean buyer. Size is about 70 sq meter or 750 sq ft.


That is about the same price as R&F PC.
So essentially is paying the same, but in JB.


I believe Zelphon already has his HDB.

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At half hdb price???? Poor man, u dont even know what is hdb price....
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If the purchase price should be RM 1 million about SGD 400k based on current rate
You can own one 4-bedroom HDB flat in Woodlands!
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If the purchase price should be RM 1 million about SGD 400k based on current rate
You can own one 4-bedroom HDB flat in Woodlands!
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if it is true why not keep buying HDB flat? You can make a fortune out of it. flex.gif
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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Aug 20 2014, 11:30 PM)
Me not BOSS lah..

I am merely a Singaporean driven by desperation due to f***ed up PAP policies and thus needed an AFFORDABLE EXIT STRATEGY...

Now some PAP scums already talking about 10 million population target when we already have so much infrastructure issues now..

Rather than wait to be displaced or left to die after being bled dry by PAP..
Better to take some calculated risks for future survival..

If not under desperation, I will be like my Sinkie peers and my Malaysian peers who totally advised against believing in Iskandar Hype and only invest in Penang or KL properties...

In fact, my wife tried to persuade me against buying Malaysian Properties...

U know lah..

CLOB saga... Policies flipflop.. etc...
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KL property will be a better investment for the same amount of money you put in R&F Princess Cove
But that's my opinion only!
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if it is true why not keep buying HDB flat? You can make a fortune out of it.  flex.gif
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singapore gov not allow people to goreng HDB flat...each qualified singaporean just allow one unit...tats y singapore got the highest ownership of house in the world...more than 95%...

unlike others countries....gov itself also goreng the property...eventually investment in property will bcome rich people games... icon_question.gif

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if it is true why not keep buying HDB flat? You can make a fortune out of it.  flex.gif
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True in the year last seventy or eighty only and after that many HDB Regulations stop people from doing it!
Every Singaporean has only one chance of making such money and I did it with the purchase of one bigger HDB flat in the eighty and then sold it for a better investment in private property before year 2000!
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QUOTE(bigman @ Aug 21 2014, 10:43 AM)
singapore gov not allow people to goreng HDB flat...each qualified singaporean just allow one unit...tats y singapore got the highest ownership of house in the world...more than 95%...

unlike others countries....gov itself also goreng the property...eventually investment in property will bcome rich people games... icon_question.gif
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so your reasoning is not right lo. you cant compare something that you cant buy more than one unit... tongue.gif
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singapore gov not allow people to goreng HDB flat...each qualified singaporean just allow one unit...tats y singapore got the highest ownership of house in the world...more than 95%...

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You cannot goreng HDB government flat last time but not private property!
If you are cash right can buy as many as possible if you can afford it!

But now of course you have difficulty to own 2nd property because of additional 6% stamp duty of the purchase price
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so your reasoning is not right lo. you cant compare something that you cant buy more than one unit...  tongue.gif
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compare other countries...singapore govenment is doing a very good job in protecting he own people...

in malaysia.....no so much people can afford house in city area... u try to ask people that gain below 3k per month...where and when they going to own their first property...???

with the salary below 3k...only can afford house under 300k... where to get under 300k now day? even soho or studio unit in or near to city center also cost more than 400k liao...
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KL property will be a better investment for the same amount of money you put in R&F Princess Cove
But that's my opinion only!
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Exit Strategy from Singapore mah..

KL too far...
Transport expenditure will be high even with HSR...

Even if I rent out R&F cheaply in future, I can still easily access it in case tenant run away...etc..
Very hard to monitor overseas properties if too far..

No bike.. No car..
That is why I only pick R&F Princess Cove..

My mum got a terrace/something in Taman Daya..
Whole house rent out only RM 530 a month (excluding utilities) and always tenant run away without 1st informing us..
1st time lost 3 mths worth of rental..
Just happened again with this one and heard from neighbours that the whole house lights is turned on..
Wonder how much rental losses this time...

That is why I avoid buying properties that is not easily accessible for me...

Rental in malaysia is really headache one.
When tenant runs.. u won't able to locate them in Malaysia..

As I mentioned, rental is crap in Malaysia.. with the risks involved..
R&F on the plus side is easily accessible for me...

Rental or not, it serves a great purpose as exit strategy..
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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Aug 21 2014, 11:19 AM)
Exit Strategy from Singapore mah..

KL too far...
Transport expenditure will be high even with HSR...

Even if I rent out R&F cheaply in future, I can still easily access it in case tenant run away...etc..
Very hard to monitor overseas properties if too far..

No bike.. No car..
That is why I only pick R&F Princess Cove..

My mum got a terrace/something in Taman Daya..
Whole house rent out only RM 530 a month (excluding utilities) and always tenant run away without 1st informing us..
1st time lost 3 mths worth of rental..
Just happened again with this one and heard from neighbours that the whole house lights is turned on..
Wonder how much rental losses this time...

That is why I avoid buying properties that is not easily accessible for me...

Rental in malaysia is really headache one.
When tenant runs.. u won't able to locate them in Malaysia..

As I mentioned, rental is crap in Malaysia.. with the risks involved..
R&F on the plus side is easily accessible for me...

Rental or not, it serves a great purpose as exit strategy..
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exit strategy...u mean exit to singapore or malaysia...or selling after vp?
but dun forget u need to compete with thousand of units in subsale market...
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QUOTE(bigman @ Aug 21 2014, 11:18 AM)
compare other countries...singapore govenment is doing a very good job in protecting  he own people...

in malaysia.....no so much people can afford house in city area... u try to ask people that gain below 3k per month...where and when they going  to own their first property...???

with the salary below 3k...only can afford house under 300k... where to get under 300k now day? even soho or studio unit in or near to city center also cost more than 400k liao...
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I disagree...

Screwed up immigration policies caused infrastructure issues in SG now..
And driving up housing prices including HDB..
Meanwhile, salary level is depressed...
Cost of living is ridiculous now..

PAP govt is world no.1 in milking money..
Even China, Brunei.. etc send officials to SG to learn...

Malaysia is learning already..
In SG, BIGGEST LANDOWNER is GOVT... BIGGEST MONOPOLY BIZ all GOVT-LINKED..
Tat is why not much entrepreneurship in SG..
High risk of starting a biz in SG...
High cost too...

There are more opportunities in Malaysia due to inept govt..
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exit strategy...u mean exit to singapore or malaysia...or selling after vp?
but dun forget u need to compete with thousand of units in subsale market...
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If I get retrenched or SG is too expensive to bear..

Can downgrade to living in R&F while renting out entire HDB for old age...
This is better than the leasebuy back crap from PAP govt and the CPF life crap..

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I disagree...

Screwed up immigration policies caused infrastructure issues in SG now..
And driving up housing prices including HDB..
Meanwhile, salary level is depressed...
Cost of living is ridiculous now..

PAP govt is world no.1 in milking money..
Even China, Brunei.. etc send officials to SG to learn...

Malaysia is learning already..
In SG, BIGGEST LANDOWNER is GOVT... BIGGEST MONOPOLY BIZ all GOVT-LINKED..
Tat is why not much entrepreneurship in SG..
High risk of starting a biz in SG...
High cost too...

There are more opportunities in Malaysia due to inept govt..
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yup...the opportunities still a lot in malaysia...u no need to be very competent or have very strong background in first place to setup ur business in malaysia...of course u need to work hard n get good networking (cable) to success...


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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Aug 21 2014, 11:25 AM)
I disagree...

Screwed up immigration policies caused infrastructure issues in SG now..
And driving up housing prices including HDB..
Meanwhile, salary level is depressed...
Cost of living is ridiculous now..

PAP govt is world no.1 in milking money..
Even China, Brunei.. etc send officials to SG to learn...

Malaysia is learning already..
In SG, BIGGEST LANDOWNER is GOVT... BIGGEST MONOPOLY BIZ all GOVT-LINKED..
Tat is why not much entrepreneurship in SG..
High risk of starting a biz in SG...
High cost too...

There are more opportunities in Malaysia due to inept govt..
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yup...the opportunities still a lot in malaysia...u no need to be very competent or have very strong background in first place to setup ur business in malaysia...of course u need to work hard n get good networking (cable) to success...


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Yes I ll buy a hdb instead of princess cove. I can rent out at sgd2.2k n u have hard time to rent out at rm5k. Same time hdb price ll go up in the next 10 years time as already got talks of 10 mil population....
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yup...the opportunities still a lot in malaysia...u no need to be very competent or have very strong background in first place to setup ur business in malaysia...of course u need to work hard n get good networking (cable) to success...
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Plus u give 30% share to the "bumi"s n those PTI after getting the IC also consider bumi.
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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Aug 21 2014, 11:19 AM)
Exit Strategy from Singapore mah..

KL too far...
Transport expenditure will be high even with HSR...

Even if I rent out R&F cheaply in future, I can still easily access it in case tenant run away...etc..
Very hard to monitor overseas properties if too far..

No bike.. No car..
That is why I only pick R&F Princess Cove..

My mum got a terrace/something in Taman Daya..
Whole house rent out only RM 530 a month (excluding utilities) and always tenant run away without 1st informing us..
1st time lost 3 mths worth of rental..
Just happened again with this one and heard from neighbours that the whole house lights is turned on..
Wonder how much rental losses this time...

That is why I avoid buying properties that is not easily accessible for me...

Rental in malaysia is really headache one.
When tenant runs.. u won't able to locate them in Malaysia..

As I mentioned, rental is crap in Malaysia.. with the risks involved..
R&F on the plus side is easily accessible for me...

Rental or not, it serves a great purpose as exit strategy..
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Your purpose of purchase is slightly different from mine!

I only buy new house directly from the developer and stay for a certain period of times (no rental, please)
KL is not consider that far when HSR ready in year 2020!
Even now I get use to travel from Singapore to Malaysia regularly by coach or bus for more than half day!
I do not drive to Malaysia eventhough I own a car.
Location wise, KL is still much better than JB but that for me!

Thank you very much for sharing your opinion!



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Yes I ll buy a hdb instead of princess cove. I can rent out at sgd2.2k n u have hard time to rent out at rm5k. Same time hdb price ll go up in the next 10 years time as already got talks of 10 mil population....
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Yes..

But u can only own 1 HDB...
To get a 2nd property in SG..
Even a studio 1 BR in f***ed up locations cost min. SGD $550,000..

Then all the ABSD.. TDSR comes into play... Making it very very difficult to get a 2nd property..

Govt is trying to control people by forcing them into debts via HDB... Screwed up CPF schemes and unabated high cost of medical treatments...

SG is a richman's playground now..
A place to earn money...

That's it..


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QUOTE(hhho @ Aug 21 2014, 11:47 AM)
Your purpose of purchase is slightly different from mine!

I only buy new house directly from the developer and stay for a certain period of times (no rental, please)
KL is not consider that far when HSR ready in year 2020!
Even now I get use to travel from Singapore to Malaysia regularly by coach or bus for more than half day!
I do not drive to Malaysia eventhough I own a car.
Location wise, KL is still much better than JB but that for me!

Thank you very much for sharing your opinion!
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For me. If need to stay n work in singapore. Buying or investing in a hdb definately better than buying in iskandar.
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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Aug 21 2014, 11:56 AM)
For me. If need to stay n work in singapore. Buying or investing in a hdb definately better than buying in iskandar.
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Not for me as I have been staying in Singapore for many years already
Looking forward much cheaper and better housing after stop working!

http://mothership.sg/2014/06/15-reasons-wh...me-in-malaysia/
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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Aug 21 2014, 11:26 AM)
If I get retrenched or SG is too expensive to bear..

Can downgrade to living in R&F while renting out entire HDB for old age...
This is better than the leasebuy back crap from PAP govt and the CPF life crap..
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Not for me as I have been staying in Singapore for many years already
Looking forward much cheaper and better housing after stop working!

http://mothership.sg/2014/06/15-reasons-wh...me-in-malaysia/
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But if for singaporean. U need 1 mil above property. But not sure how to stay in malaysia for long term. Govt to grantew immigrants visa or ????
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You may refer to information on MM2H program

http://www.mm2h.gov.my/index.php/en/benefi...urchase-a-house
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For me. If need to stay n work in singapore. Buying or investing in a hdb definately better than buying in iskandar.
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U dont get the point. Those singa lang looking into investing in overseas already sorted out their own stay house n most likely is a hdb.

U wont consider buying rnf vs hdb flat. U will consider a private condo in singa vs rnf.

Just like u wont consider keeping a mistress before u even get married bro
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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Aug 21 2014, 12:52 PM)
U dont get the point.  Those singa lang looking into investing in overseas already sorted out their own stay house n most likely is a hdb.

U wont consider buying rnf vs hdb flat. U will consider a private condo in singa vs rnf.

Just like u wont consider keeping a mistress before u even get married bro
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My few colleagues singa poh lang investing in oversea like hk n phillipine n thailand. They didnt give a thought of jb leh except one ex GM who bought a unit at horizon hill...
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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Aug 21 2014, 01:06 PM)
My few colleagues singa poh lang investing in oversea like hk n phillipine n thailand. They didnt give a thought of jb leh except one ex GM who bought a unit at horizon hill...
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u compare like that is sensible. U could be right!

Sorry I just wannt to make a point on ur comparison analysis. Cheers bro.


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It depends on your objectives.

For Zelphon, he is a genuine buyer and is clear that this RnF property is his exit strategy from Singapore in the event when he is retrenched. I respect and understand his intention.

If you view RnF as investment, maybe this is not so sustainable in short to mid term. Calculate your monthly mortgage installment and compare it with the existing rental market at JB. If the estimate rental (in 3 years time when VP) can give good yield, then it's a GO!
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It depends on your objectives.

For Zelphon, he is a genuine buyer and is clear that this RnF property is his exit strategy from Singapore in the event when he is retrenched. I respect and understand his intention.

If you view RnF as investment, maybe this is not so sustainable in short to mid term. Calculate your monthly mortgage installment and compare it with the existing rental market at JB. If the estimate rental (in 3 years time when VP) can give good yield, then it's a GO!
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I have discussed with my colleagues who investing. They dont plan to buy in jb mainly because they think they not able to get high rental to those working class from singapore aka ta kung chai. So they rather invest in phillipines n thailand as can get better roi (according to them lar) in rental games.
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Why do you guys worry so much? Got rental or no rental. R&F is going to double 5 years down the road. HUAT AH
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Wait see wait see wait see...end up see people getting rich and live in beauty lifestyle.
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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Aug 21 2014, 11:51 AM)
Yes..

But u can only own 1 HDB...
To get a 2nd property in SG..
Even a studio 1 BR in f***ed up locations cost min. SGD $550,000..

Then all the ABSD.. TDSR comes into play... Making it very very difficult to get a 2nd property..

Govt is trying to control people by forcing them into debts via HDB... Screwed up CPF schemes and unabated high cost of medical treatments...

SG is a richman's playground now..
A place to earn money...

That's it..
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Boss mind to share which part of Singa is Fark up???

I'm looking at jurong and ang mo kio. Isit gd???

It's true Singa props r at nonsense price now. But just wanna buy one in case need to Zhao Lou fr Malai. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Aug 21 2014, 07:45 PM)
Boss mind to share which part of Singa is Fark up???

I'm looking at jurong and ang mo kio. Isit gd???

It's true Singa props r at nonsense price now. But just wanna buy one in case need to Zhao Lou fr Malai. laugh.gif
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You zhao lou there he zhao lou here. Gain one lose one no gain no loss breakeven
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You zhao lou there he zhao lou here. Gain one lose one no gain no loss breakeven
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Yalor boss I was bout to ask y is he coming to malai when I'm looking to runaway tongue.gif

Btw I did realise the prc prop in singa but not sure how bad it affect singa lang. hmm.gif
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Boss mind to share which part of Singa is Fark up???

I'm looking at jurong and ang mo kio. Isit gd???

It's true Singa props r at nonsense price now. But just wanna buy one in case need to Zhao Lou fr Malai. laugh.gif
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The govt is farked up..
Too smart and too efficient...

If you are PR, you should buy a RESALE HDB FLAT asap...
Price will go higher when 10 million population hits..

SG is limited in land.. Anywhere is good...
Location matters but good location.. Price so ridiculously high..
Private properties is way way out of reach...
Even condos at PUNGGOL is going for SGD 1,100 psf..

If you are working in SG.. just hoot a resale HDB..
or u convert to SG Citizen and get BTO..

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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Aug 21 2014, 08:34 PM)
The govt is farked up..
Too smart and too efficient...

If you are PR, you should buy a RESALE HDB FLAT asap...
Price will go higher when 10 million population hits..

SG is limited in land.. Anywhere is good...
Location matters but good location.. Price so ridiculously high..
Private properties is way way out of reach...
Even condos at PUNGGOL is going for SGD 1,100 psf..

If you are working in SG.. just hoot a resale HDB..
or u convert to SG Citizen and get BTO..

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im not too smart person...tats y never think to work or bcome PR of singapore...

in malaysia...i can gain my good living here...can do business n doing investment....

even though the price of property keep increasing...but still i can buy property every year.. flex.gif
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Boss mind to share which part of Singa is Fark up???

I'm looking at jurong and ang mo kio. Isit gd???

It's true Singa props r at nonsense price now. But just wanna buy one in case need to Zhao Lou fr Malai. laugh.gif
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ang mo kio location is better. but jurong is now under major transformation plans to be a major regional centre with lifestyle component like a huge lake ie waterfront living. But between the two I choose AMK. Crowd is better.
If got big budget better to look at near or outside city centre. what's your budget? private?

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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Aug 21 2014, 11:11 PM)
ang mo kio location is better. but jurong is now under major transformation plans to be a major regional centre with lifestyle component like a huge lake ie waterfront living. But between the two I choose AMK. Crowd is better.
If got big budget better to look at near or outside city centre. what's your budget? private?
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Budget is not an issue so long he likes it. At the end of the day he is giggsy mah...
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Budget is not an issue so long he likes it. At the end of the day he is giggsy mah...
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go for newton, bukit timah, river valley, grange road then. forget about AMK or Jurong. prices will soften further in the coming year. time to go window shopping.


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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Aug 21 2014, 11:11 PM)
ang mo kio location is better. but jurong is now under major transformation plans to be a major regional centre with lifestyle component like a huge lake ie waterfront living. But between the two I choose AMK. Crowd is better.
If got big budget better to look at near or outside city centre. what's your budget? private?
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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Aug 22 2014, 03:14 AM)
Budget is not an issue so long he likes it. At the end of the day he is giggsy mah...
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Bosses, got budget wan le. Giggsy retired Liao ma. Boh lui le. tongue.gif

Anw, studied singa market for a while Liao. Yes goin for private cos I'm not even singa pr. A mk private subsales all bout 1kpsf or more for beta loc. New ones all 1.2kpsf and above. sweat.gif

Jurong almost the same. I'm not sure which part is beta.

But Corleone boss, y tis 2 areas no gd har??? Mind to share ga???
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Guys, think we should open a new thread to discuss about singa properties investment. Let's focus on RNF here else gogo2 angry.
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Guys, think we should open a new thread to discuss about singa properties investment. Let's focus on RNF here else gogo2 angry.
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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Aug 22 2014, 06:54 AM)
go for newton, bukit timah, river valley, grange road then. forget about AMK or Jurong. prices will soften further in the coming year. time to go window shopping.
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Next big area is definitely woodlands with the RTS and northern gateway development..
Look to Jurong for reference...

After that could be PUNGGOL....
U should go take a look at Punggol Masterplan..

I am not surprised if a 3rd link to Malaysia is proposed in future and the 3rd will cut through Punggol to Pasir Gudang..

Many many new developments coming up in Punggol..
PAP already delayed the plans and renamed as Punggol 21 plus...
They cannot afford to antagonize the people in Punggol anymore as more younger generations are taking root in Punggol...

SAFRA will be up in 2 yrs...
Waterpoint Mall will be up end of next year...

If your budget is tight, look at these 2 areas...
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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Aug 22 2014, 08:57 AM)
Next big area is definitely woodlands with the RTS and northern gateway development..
Look to Jurong for reference...

After that could be PUNGGOL....
U should go take a look at Punggol Masterplan..

I am not surprised if a 3rd link to Malaysia is proposed in future and the 3rd will cut through Punggol to Pasir Gudang..

Many many new developments coming up in Punggol..
PAP already delayed the plans and renamed as Punggol 21 plus...
They cannot afford to antagonize the people in Punggol anymore as more younger generations are taking root in Punggol...

SAFRA will be up in 2 yrs...
Waterpoint Mall will be up end of next year...

If your budget is tight, look at these 2 areas...
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im not too smart person...tats y never think to work or bcome PR of singapore...

in malaysia...i can gain my good living here...can do business n doing investment....

even though the price of property keep increasing...but still i can buy property every year.. flex.gif
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Bosses, got budget wan le. Giggsy retired Liao ma. Boh lui le.  tongue.gif

Anw, studied singa market for a while Liao. Yes goin for private cos I'm not even singa pr. A mk private subsales all bout 1kpsf or more for beta loc. New ones all 1.2kpsf and above.  sweat.gif

Jurong almost the same. I'm not sure which part is beta.

But Corleone boss, y tis 2 areas no gd har??? Mind to share ga???
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No lar, becos cocoon boss say budget no concern ma. so then forget about AMK and jurong as the other place i listed is much better.
the difference is like buy in cheras or puchong vs buy in damansara or bangsar.
if you can imagine cheras and puchong vs damansara height or bangsar then can already. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Aug 22 2014, 09:05 AM)
Giggsy got bottomless budget whats the issue
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No lar, becos cocoon boss say budget no concern ma. so then forget about AMK and jurong as the other place i listed is much better.
the difference is like buy in cheras or puchong vs buy in damansara or bangsar.
if you can imagine cheras and puchong vs damansara height or bangsar then can already. smile.gif
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Budget big issue if SGD keep heading north. Should hav kept all MYR into SGD mad.gif vmad.gif

I luv the peaceful life at Jurong and some food stalls at AMK. drool.gif
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Budget big issue if SGD keep heading north. Should hav kept all MYR into SGD mad.gif  vmad.gif

I luv the peaceful life at Jurong and some food stalls at AMK.  drool.gif
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well, to me jurong, woodland, punggol , yishun. are just a bit.. mehh.

if you intending to splash the cash, and like peaceful living, but yet near to town centres you can check out yio chu kang, upper thomson road condos. they are slightly upmarket areas but are just a few minutes away to AMK central.

the "traditional" good class properties are in or near city regions.

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Ok, since we are all discussing about singapore properties, I will also join in the fun...

For me:
Woodlands (North) - Potential capital gain since there are a lot of development going on and the prices are still on the reasonable side.

East Side Marine Parade, Tanah Merah, East Cost Park area attracts me the most!! lots of condos, landed and affluent people stays there. I have a former school mate who bought a landed posh semi-d around bedok/tanah merah area!!! Well done to him!!

West - Jurong: Also up and coming area

Central - Too expensive at least for me..
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Ok, since we are all discussing about singapore properties, I will also join in the fun...

For me:
Woodlands (North) - Potential capital gain since there are a lot of development going on and the prices are still on the reasonable side.

East Side Marine Parade, Tanah Merah, East Cost Park area attracts me the most!! lots of condos, landed and affluent people stays there. I have a former school mate who bought a landed posh semi-d around bedok/tanah merah area!!! Well done to him!!

West - Jurong: Also up and coming area

Central - Too expensive at least for me..
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to me AMK may be a bit crowded. I like tiong bahru area as near to office. Tampines not bad too but a bit far to town n ciq. Always took me 1 hour+ to clear CIQ after work from Tampines in the past.

jurong east is ok but that AYE jam sometimes just too bad....

may be I got to start looking into woodlands n yew tee nect year. But I aim hdb only n not condo as got limited budgets...tongue.gif

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well, to me jurong, woodland, punggol , yishun. are just a bit.. mehh.

if you intending to splash the cash, and like peaceful living, but yet near to town centres you can check out yio chu kang, upper thomson road condos. they are slightly upmarket areas but are just a few minutes away to AMK central.

the "traditional" good class properties are in or near city regions.

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Budget big issue if SGD keep heading north. Should hav kept all MYR into SGD mad.gif  vmad.gif

I luv the peaceful life at Jurong and some food stalls at AMK.  drool.gif
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I would recommend Jurong East areas as I'm more familiar with it
As we all know, many things are going to happen in Jurong East next 3 to 5 years. nod.gif
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R&F got heavy A&P.......high density with very Big A&P burget.... smile.gif smile.gif
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I would recommend Jurong East areas as I'm more familiar with it
As we all know, many things are going to happen in Jurong East next 3 to 5 years.  nod.gif
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R&F got heavy A&P.......high density with very Big A&P burget.... smile.gif smile.gif
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Chinese developers have accumulated huge amount of profit over the past 10 years. Now china mkt is slowing down hence they have to go overseas to sustain their results.
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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Jul 25 2014, 08:37 PM)
The deal I got from last week initial launch is

1) 6% credit rebate from SPA price
2) All stamp duties, lawyer fees .. etc paid by developers..
3) 1 year free waiver of maintenance fee upon TOP
4) RM 20k voucher upon TOP for foreigners on all purchases except studios... (I am not eligible because I purchased the property in my Mother's name whom is a Malaysian)

So I am curious what is the current deal now..

Good deals are those low-level 4 Br and dual keys..
Can go as low as 800/900 psf after discount... But since is bigger so more expensive...

I am risk adverse so I bought level 10 block A2-1 for RM 903,812... Type G

Basically all seaview units Type G (i.e. Block A1-1, A1-2, A2-2) has been pre-booked by tycoons or property investment clubs ...
Last week only launch 7 blocks (A1, A2, A7)..

Price difference between Seaview units Type G similar level is about RM 100,000

Obviously, high floors more expensive than low floor...
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QUOTE(hhho @ Aug 22 2014, 11:26 AM)
I would recommend Jurong East areas as I'm more familiar with it
As we all know, many things are going to happen in Jurong East next 3 to 5 years.  nod.gif
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Wah! decent yield at 4% ...

Should take advantage of the low interest rates 3-month SIBOR at 0.40376 (19th August 2014). Some banks offers Sibor+1.25% .... so effective interest rate is about ~ 1.6%


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He is singa lang woh. So is welcome u to Malaysia....
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He is singa lang woh. So is welcome u to Malaysia....
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as much as we dislike sg attitudes.... I welcome them to do their spending here. it will boost the jb economy.

It's good for our country.

spread love (money), not hate.

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Chinese developers have accumulated huge amount of profit over the past 10 years.  Now china mkt is slowing down hence they have to go overseas to sustain their results.
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Mayb this is one of the reason..... cool2.gif cool2.gif
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Mayb this is one of the reason..... cool2.gif  cool2.gif
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spread out their net wider and further so that it can catch more fish! rclxms.gif
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spread out their net wider and further so that it can catch more fish!  rclxms.gif
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Now JB got 150,000 unit on going condo and 200,000 unit approval but not yet start condo project...... Hope the China property company will success in Iskandar....... cool2.gif cool2.gif cool2.gif
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Now JB got 150,000 unit on going condo and 200,000 unit approval but not yet start condo project...... Hope the China property company will success in Iskandar....... cool2.gif  cool2.gif  cool2.gif
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Jb or entire iskandar?

But u have to give it to iskandar on this because this is the only area in malaysia can draw many overseas top developers such as singapore, china and Australia. .. kl also cannot compare in this manner
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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Aug 22 2014, 06:33 PM)
Jb or entire iskandar?

But u have to give it to iskandar on this because this is the only area in malaysia can draw many overseas top developers  such as singapore, china and Australia. .. kl also cannot compare in this manner
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350,000 unit in whole JB................
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350,000 unit in whole JB................
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Ok mah sg soon will have 10m population . Move 10% over ngam ngam ho
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Ok mah sg soon will have 10m population . Move 10% over ngam ngam ho
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Indonesia n singapore built a bridge to Batam.

Condo there only selling sgd100k....

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Indonesia n singapore built a bridge to Batam.

Condo there only selling sgd100k....

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It's an old idea lah!
Some Singaporeans had 2nd home in Batam last eighty ~ ninety and stay there during weekend!
Now Singaporean prefer going north to Thailand, Malaysia because the high cost of living not enough money for retirement!


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Indonesia n singapore built a bridge to Batam.

Condo there only selling sgd100k....

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lagi worse, everytime drive over, NO TALKING PLEASE SHHHH. otherwise they ask you balik kampung.
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buy this condo or landed at jb better? almost the same price. landed of course upfront more.
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buy this condo or landed at jb better? almost the same price. landed of course upfront more.
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singaporeans somehow i think prefer medini.. rather than this CIQ.
very tempting to buy this RF

Condo RF face singapore cant afford. can consider facing back

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singaporeans somehow i think prefer medini.. rather than this CIQ.
very tempting to buy this RF

Condo RF face singapore cant afford. can consider facing back
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Behind one can get below 700psf
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Yup..

Those poor facing units has low psf !!!

Best deal is the low floor dual keys..

High chance they could be facing the RTS instead..

But I think they are all sold...

By the way, I signed the SPA today and I found out more info from the lawyer representing R&F..

PROS:
1) All condo unit owners are guaranteed a parking lot
2) All the balconies area are actually FREE OF CHARGE !!! This means that whichever quoted area size does not include the balcony area !!! All the area quoted is internal area !!!

CONS:
1) Maintenance fee is RM 0.42 psf !!!! THIS IS FREAKING EXPENSIVE.. The lawyer says is because of commercial land... Guess R&F will be milking a lot of money from Maintenance fee, Sinking funds and Utilities... Maybe that is why they can sell so cheap... Hopefully the whole project is properly maintained to justify the high price..

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He is not going into Malaysia, the most hang around CIQ, City Square and back to Singapore!  brows.gif
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Sometime i will go deep into Taman Daya lah..

My mum got a house there...

Can consider me as 1/2 Malaysian lah.. Cos my mum is malaysian..
I got 1/2 jiu hu blood..

LOL
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Behind one can get below 700psf
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Long gone bro! But it was possible.
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which size 700 sq feet. the dual key is how big ya?
wah. so fast sign spa
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which size 700 sq feet. the dual key is how big ya?
wah. so fast sign spa
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Still got plenty.. I think..

Now is part 2 of phase 1...

Better grab before people realize the value of the low floor dual keys and 4 BR..

in phase 1 part 1, level 8 dual key is about 900 psf only..

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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Aug 23 2014, 12:34 AM)
Sometime i will go deep into Taman Daya lah..

My mum got a house there...

Can consider me as 1/2 Malaysian lah.. Cos my mum is malaysian..
I got 1/2 jiu hu blood..

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For most Singaporean taking bus, will U turn back after shopping City Square!
Since August this year, we are not encouraged to drive in any more because of expensive toll VEP charges......

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Still got plenty.. I think..

Now is part 2 of phase 1...

Better grab before people realize the value of the low floor dual keys and 4 BR..

in phase 1 part 1, level 8 dual key is about 900 psf only..
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Behind one can get below 700psf
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When will be next booking for below 700psf ! brows.gif

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When will be next booking for below 700psf !  brows.gif
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This one must be fast hand only can get... small size somemore so makinh the aabsolute amount affordable also....
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This one must be fast hand only can get... small size somemore so makinh the aabsolute amount affordable also....
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Are we taking floor area 700sf or $700psf RM?
very confusing leh bro...... rclxub.gif

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Are we taking floor area 700sf or $700psf RM?
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Less than 700psf for less than 900sf units...

the lowest psf was 599psf
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QUOTE(Zelphon @ Aug 23 2014, 12:32 AM)
Yup..

Those poor facing units has low psf !!!

Best deal is the low floor dual keys..

High chance they could be facing the RTS instead..

But I think they are all sold...

By the way, I signed the SPA today and I found out more info from the lawyer representing R&F..

PROS:
1) All condo unit owners are guaranteed a parking lot
2) All the balconies area are actually FREE OF CHARGE !!! This means that whichever quoted area size does not include the balcony area !!! All the area quoted is internal area !!!

CONS:
1) Maintenance fee is RM 0.42 psf !!!! THIS IS FREAKING EXPENSIVE.. The lawyer says is because of commercial land...  Guess R&F will be milking a lot of money from Maintenance fee, Sinking funds and Utilities... Maybe that is why they can sell so cheap... Hopefully the whole project is properly maintained to justify the high price..
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Maintenance fee charge rate is never justify by residential or commercial. It's base on the building itself whether how is the cost to maintenance the building. Retail below this apartment is seperate maintenance account.

This post has been edited by Kicimiao66cc: Aug 23 2014, 08:24 AM
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post Aug 23 2014, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Aug 23 2014, 08:17 AM)
Less than 700psf for less than 900sf units...

the lowest psf was 599psf
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Singaporean can buy one $550 k RM property in jb?

This post has been edited by hhho: Aug 23 2014, 10:07 AM
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post Aug 23 2014, 10:05 AM

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THis R&F every week LAUNCHING with many event, Un Stop one.....
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post Aug 23 2014, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(hhho @ Aug 23 2014, 10:04 AM)
Singaporean can buy one $550 k RM property in jb?
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