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 SKINNY GUY TRYING TO BULK UP, FAILED~

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post May 12 2015, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(kitfoong2752 @ May 11 2015, 03:42 PM)
i scare man... i had 2 times b4 and dua kali-dua kali pun lao sai like hell....  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Dang bro , that's sad. Lol .

QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 11 2015, 03:49 PM)
for somebody who trying to bulk up, I don't think, knowing each meal's calorie value is that important. You simply just need to eat more. If you think you can eat a lot and not gain size and weight, eat more than what you usually eat. I always thought that I can't get fat before, I was wrong. Just Eat More.
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Do that and you'll have more fat gains than muscle or no gains at all lol

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post May 12 2015, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(kshen @ May 12 2015, 02:09 PM)
Dang bro , that's sad. Lol .
Do that and you'll have more fat gains than muscle or no gains at all lol
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Correct, because the point is to gain weight. hehe
If the point is gaining muscle mass, then, definitely need exercise, eat more protein and less fat biggrin.gif
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post May 12 2015, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 12 2015, 02:26 PM)
Correct, because the point is to gain weight. hehe
If the point is gaining muscle mass, then, definitely need exercise, eat more protein and less fat biggrin.gif
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post May 12 2015, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 12 2015, 02:26 PM)
Correct, because the point is to gain weight. hehe
If the point is gaining muscle mass, then, definitely need exercise, eat more protein and less fat biggrin.gif
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post May 12 2015, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ May 12 2015, 02:40 PM)
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post May 12 2015, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ May 12 2015, 02:41 PM)
Do you know what you're sayin' ?
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Errr yes? What is the problem with that statement?
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post May 12 2015, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 12 2015, 03:06 PM)
Errr yes? What is the problem with that statement?
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Tidak apa. For one who doesn't care about how much that goes into your body, there is no reason to explain what macros is and what fat does to your body. Cheers.
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post May 12 2015, 05:12 PM

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this thread suit me... currently i'm 170cm with 45kg +/-1 kg previously... now try hard to gain weight...
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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ May 12 2015, 05:05 PM)
Tidak apa. For one who doesn't care about how much that goes into your body, there is no reason to explain what macros is and what fat does to your body. Cheers.
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I see, true true. That is why I said, if someone just plan on gaining weight, they just need to eat more than they are doing currently. The type of food or lifestyle doesn't really matter.

But if they plan to build/gain more muscle mass (bigger muscles), then definitely they'll need to start exercise and work out. They'll also need to observe their diet properly by taking less fat and more protein. A lot of carbohydrates too since they'll need the energy to work out and fill the stomach.
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QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 12 2015, 05:14 PM)
I see, true true. That is why I said, if someone just plan on gaining weight, they just need to eat more than they are doing currently. The type of food or lifestyle doesn't really matter.

But if they plan to build/gain more muscle mass (bigger muscles), then definitely they'll need to start exercise and work out. They'll also need to observe their diet properly by taking less fat and more protein. A lot of carbohydrates too since they'll need the energy to work out and fill the stomach.
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QUOTE(elzp4000 @ May 12 2015, 05:12 PM)
this thread suit me... currently i'm 170cm with 45kg +/-1 kg previously... now try hard to gain weight...
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So do you already have a plan of action?
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post May 12 2015, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 12 2015, 05:14 PM)
I see, true true. That is why I said, if someone just plan on gaining weight, they just need to eat more than they are doing currently. The type of food or lifestyle doesn't really matter.

But if they plan to build/gain more muscle mass (bigger muscles), then definitely they'll need to start exercise and work out. They'll also need to observe their diet properly by taking less fat and more protein. A lot of carbohydrates too since they'll need the energy to work out and fill the stomach.
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Well if your goal is just to increase your weight by looking at the scale then just eat whatever you can. I see no reason why people in this fitness & health forum would want to gain fat. Most wanna gain muscle mass with minimal fat.

And how do you know if you're not eating enough? by having 5 meals per day? What if ur busy throughout the day? u stuff urself with 2.5 portions twice? That's why counting calorie matters. Not saying its a must but at least have a rough figure of what ur eating.

Why less fat to build muscle?
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post May 12 2015, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ May 12 2015, 06:08 PM)
Well if your goal is just to increase your weight by looking at the scale then just eat whatever you can. I see no reason why people in this fitness & health forum would want to gain fat. Most wanna gain muscle mass with minimal fat.

And how do you know if you're not eating enough? by having 5 meals per day? What if ur busy throughout the day? u stuff urself with 2.5 portions twice? That's why counting calorie matters. Not saying its a must but at least have a rough figure of what ur eating.

Why less fat to build muscle?
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Well, do you suppose they should be asking in kopitiam then? I just give my suggestion to those who are asking how they can gain their weight, if you don't agree with it, feel free to share your suggestion.

How do you know you're not eating enough? Simple really, if your current diet didn't make any shift in your current weight, it means you're not eating enough to gain weight. The thing is, after you're done counting the calories, you still need to eat to get that missing calorie.

From what I know, fat wouldn't be muscle no matter how much or less you eat it. Muscle came from protein. The size of you muscle may look bigger with fat covering it, but the actual muscle are not. The point of taking in less fat is only to give you a better idea of how big your muscle really is.
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QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 12 2015, 03:06 PM)
Errr yes? What is the problem with that statement?
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Bcos your statement is broscience material.

It's unhealthy to preach matters that are not the Way of the Iron Temple.
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QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 12 2015, 06:22 PM)
Well, do you suppose they should be asking in kopitiam then? I just give my suggestion to those who are asking how they can gain their weight, if you don't agree with it, feel free to share your suggestion.

How do you know you're not eating enough? Simple really, if your current diet didn't make any shift in your current weight, it means you're not eating enough to gain weight. The thing is, after you're done counting the calories, you still need to eat to get that missing calorie.

From what I know, fat wouldn't be muscle no matter how much or less you eat it. Muscle came from protein. The size of you muscle may look bigger with fat covering it, but the actual muscle are not. The point of taking in less fat is only to give you a better idea of how big your muscle really is.
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post May 12 2015, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(Mubarak90 @ May 12 2015, 06:22 PM)
Well, do you suppose they should be asking in kopitiam then? I just give my suggestion to those who are asking how they can gain their weight, if you don't agree with it, feel free to share your suggestion.

How do you know you're not eating enough? Simple really, if your current diet didn't make any shift in your current weight, it means you're not eating enough to gain weight. The thing is, after you're done counting the calories, you still need to eat to get that missing calorie.

From what I know, fat wouldn't be muscle no matter how much or less you eat it. Muscle came from protein. The size of you muscle may look bigger with fat covering it, but the actual muscle are not. The point of taking in less fat is only to give you a better idea of how big your muscle really is.
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Eating fat doesn't mean it will directly becomes fat nor eating protein will directly makes your muscle bigger. That's where you are wrong and that's due to your simple minded approach of gaining weight.

I'll say that no one here in this section want to gain weight and transform themselves from skinny bone to skinny fat (I guess you do) just so that they'll appear bigger.

It seems that you can see the flaws of your method due to:
1. You are never a hardgainer before, you only lacks money and transportation to go and eat food.
2. You have appetite of normal people. Hardgainer have appetite comparable of a skinny girl. They can't eat much and them knowing the amount they need to eat each day will force them to eat more (emphasis on force).
3. You don't really care on the outcome. Be a skinny fat is far more worse than be a skinny person. Nothing good comes from being a skinny fat. It's like "Out of frying pan into the fire".
4. You don't bother gathering more knowledge because "It works" on you. Yes it does, but not on the others. The calorie counting method is tried and tested by thousands if not millions of hardgainers.
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post May 12 2015, 06:36 PM

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Eating fats doesn't really make you fat! Only eating more calories than your body needs will make you gain weight

Anyway, eating saturated fats (animal fats) and monosaturated fats are good for your health. Yes, eat more bacon and butter ! icon_idea.gif

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post May 12 2015, 06:37 PM

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hahah.... dear mubarak90, if i was you i will just stop arguing.. since we have so many disagreements on your suggestion.. they even explained with the facts.. which make sense.. and...

i didnt meant to say what la also, im neutral, but counting the food intake would lead you to a healthier lifestyle this i couldnt agree more.. but we all have our ways to gain weight, which you kept on emphasizing it..

last but not least.. FREEDOM OF SPEECH BABEHH.... no hard feeling kayyy... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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post May 12 2015, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(kitfoong2752 @ May 12 2015, 06:37 PM)
hahah.... dear mubarak90, if i was you i will just stop arguing.. since we have so many disagreements on your suggestion.. they even explained with the facts.. which make sense.. and...

i didnt meant to say what la also, im neutral, but counting the food intake would lead you to a healthier lifestyle this i couldnt agree more.. but we all have our ways to gain weight, which you kept on emphasizing it..

last but not least.. FREEDOM OF SPEECH BABEHH....
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I'm glad I started counting calories so that I can control my eating. If not, I can eat non stop since I'm a big eater biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ May 12 2015, 06:39 PM)
I'm glad I started counting calories so that I can control my eating. If not, I can eat non stop since I'm a big eater biggrin.gif
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glad to hear that.. hahah...

mind sharing me what food makes you so obsessed eh? drool.gif drool.gif

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