2016 still gt pre-facelift? i thought the pre-facelift already stopped production? haha... u mentioned expression model... its the model name for the post-facelift Fluence....

as what i mentioned before... the oldest owner of this car only 2 years plus ago... haha... so far in our owner group... no much complaint on the car.... of course it cant run like a mazda 3... to be fair.... Nissan engine and gearbox combination nvr make for sprint... hence the reliabilty of Japanese heart combine with Continental body and spec... however... on highway... other than the first few acceleration... your car performance still on par with other 2.0.... and this is more towards a family car than mazda 3... its like sitting a steady but comfortable sofa compare to mazda 3 which only a driver's car... the suspension and rear seats wont be comfortable for rear pssangers in long drive... and FC might be slightly on a high side... because this car weight is quite heavy... compare to mazda 3 which on a light frame... hence their FC will be lower and able to go faster...

the price for Fluence expression... I would say among C-segment 2.0... its quite reasonably price... with full safety features and other toys... and its reliable like a typical Japanese car... none of the current owners have the chance to use the free toll services or had to leave their car for months like other affordable contis...

bad things maybe on the soft tyre.... the expensive tyre because it is odd size... but can chg to common size tyre and still driving well.. no issues... I dont reli have issues for now having only drove almost 30k only... hahah... no issue that can't be solve or need the car to sit in workshop for months... lol...

haha... when we bought it... we knew it an outdated engine... i am open for any criticism for this car as long as it is making sense... haha... well at least its a proven engine in Malaysia... and it having a slightly better HP compare to the slyhphy... the newer turbo engines... all unproven in Msia market... TC have to use a reliable engine to penetrate Malaysia market... otherwise they will ended up like VW, pug, ford.... with all the negativity.... TC as a japanese car seller... know that reliability is important for Msian... considering our car price is on the high side.... Clio or Koleos engine are genuinely Renault engines... which might not suitable for weather and conditions like Msia... where heat is the main killer here....

and dun look at the engine of the new Megane sedan... when come to Malaysia.. the heart and gearbox might change... as what i previously mentioned... TC prioritize reliability first as a Japanese car seller...

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yes bro... pre-facelift only one variant... but overall its the same car as the post facelift... welcome to the club again bro... loan from which bank? haha...

no... we meant on the free service and maintenance... no need to pay for parts and labours... totally free for five years... with chaffeur services somemore... just let them pick ur car up to service and come back to u for fre... haha...

I used to consider Cerato and Elantra... before this car... I still feel 2.0 is better for a C-segment car... considering I will be on highway during weekends... lol....

haha... no issue bro.... just follow your heart... hahah.... most importantly is get wad you want.... for me... at that price... i feel its not worth to buy a mazda 2 when you know the current price of a C-segment 2.0 car... and the frame of this car body is better than the mazda... I would say it feel really solid as a conti car...

yeah... really one... every ppl perspective is diff... when i choosing Cerato, Elantra and this car... i also been thinking about the design... Cerato design is always the best for me... even until now... but i go for Value for money... as I believe in term of safety and stability... i believe in conti cars more... just the engine and gearbox are outdated version... which until now even the first batch owners have no issues with the car at all... I think Fluence i saw more in setia alam than other places... or maybe just my luck... when i always passby setia alam during the weekends....

I think you just read from page 1... U will know... its a reliable day to day conti car... I have nothing to complaint against this car for now... for the services and the performance of the car... I still enjoy driving it... haha... anyhow go and get a test drive... the price is definitely worthy for a 2.0 C-segment car...

but I think Tan Chong dont want to suffer very hard during the year end... hence they start this massive discounting now first... by end of the year... all the car companies will keep cannibalizing the market with crazy discounts... and Tan Chong usually left out... so I think they decided to start early... and maybe not much movement towards forth quarter... hahah....

hmm... for now.... i did asked my friend who work in TCEAS before... tan chong official service center... he mentioned that the price is actually quite okay... its comparable to the Nissan parts price... because it is imported in from Korea instead of directly from France where they selling the car with Samsung in korea....

for RV... I cant say anything much... but try to calculate this in a perfectly rational way... u buying it at 80k... five years later... depreciated to 30k maybe? for a toyota C-segment... buying it at 120k... after five years... left only 80k maybe... see the sense in there... u use lesser cash flow initially... can cash value depreciate over time... so RV is really subjective... ppl told u their toyota can sell 80k... u ask them how much when they bought... u buying at the price they going to sell it 5 years later as a second hand car... haha... by that time 80k then doesnt equivalient to the current 80k u spent for the car...

yea.... wish you all the best in your test drive.... haha.... anyhow... C-segment cars... RV very drastic.... because it is a very competitive segment and its not that huge segment in Malaysia...

well it depends how long u wanna drive it... for me... if it is continuously so reliable as it is now... i wont simply chg a car and take up a new loan again...

how much is your OTR price? post face lift Fluence...? did u take up the free maintenance package? I think its totally worth the price... haha....

yeah... cosmetic changes... if lets say the price between the new and old is 20k diff... I think its a good deal... u get C-segment car at a B-segment price... take up the 5 years free services and maintenance package... u are good to go with a peace of mind...

yeah... I think the post-facelift will offer a good discount during year end also... make it below 100k... I think its definitely a good deal also... unless u wan the latest tech... then civic 1.8 also quite okay haha....

haha you are okay with the rear seat? and the NVH....? i feel my fren mazda 3 NVH really quite sucks... but maybe I am bias...

well... i totally agree to all of your points above when i bought this car.... haha... i know the reliability of nissan... as long as the heart and gearbox is reliable.. the rest i dont really bother... after all electronics... japanese or conti are the same... the main point is the conti cars always broke down because of their engine and gearbox....

theres nothing they can say against u except... parts expensive leh... workshops limited leh... and RV sucks leh... haha.... i get these comments all the time... and i will smile to them... in my heart thinking... yea... your altis 1.8 120k... inside kosong one... maintenance not really that cheap compare to my renault... nothing to proud off for a milo tin car... and yea... above 100k for a 1.8 car... i feel its more stupid than the choice i made...

trust me... this car leather seat not nice to sit one... feeling very hard... the normal seat more soft and comfortable... but not dirt-proof la haha....

well.. i test drove that civic... i feel their NVH is way better... and more multipurpose... with that sporty look... i also like M3 actually... but I have a typical accountant point of view... i will go for civic 1.5T mid spec.... the toys inside is comparable to full spec M3 already... and its more towards an all rounder... spirited drive with a potential small family car.... hahahah..

no no... not included... need to pay extra to take the package... but still... rmb the original price of this car is 113k OTR... with the free services... now even u pay 85k for this car... with the additional free services package... its still value for money...

yeah.... but i choose mid spec is bcuz i wan the 1.5T driving performance... if i really buy M3... i buy it for the spirited drive... so for civic... i sure take the 1.5T engine... for the similar driving excitement... and mid spec price vs M3 full spec price... not much diff... and gps... haha... my fluence GPS i never use it since day 1.... no joking.... cosmetic difference not worth the money for me... haha....