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post Jun 4 2014, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(moon0610 @ Jun 4 2014, 10:37 PM)
First property buyer here. May i know do we need to wait until loan approve only can go for SPA?
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If you are not sure whether you can the loan you need then better not sign SPA. Ask for extension. In the meantime you should have all documentation that support your credit worthiness.

Contact bankers that has priority for this project.






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post Jun 4 2014, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Jun 4 2014, 11:11 PM)
If you are not sure whether you can the loan you need then better not sign SPA. Ask for extension. In the meantime you should have all documentation that support your credit worthiness.

Contact bankers that has priority for this project.
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Alrighty! smile.gif
Gotta apply for more banks. Any good banker / bank recommended? (maybank/ ocbc/ etc)
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post Jun 4 2014, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(tengster @ Jun 4 2014, 10:04 PM)
Garage and porch are the same right. Tiles up to ceiling in toilet but not kitchen. Not sure plaster ceiling. Others, i don't know....

I hope not Goh Barn Huak...but Grohe... biggrin.gif
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Wah!!! Got Grohe then good!!! rclxms.gif

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post Jun 5 2014, 07:45 AM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Jun 3 2014, 03:09 PM)
Lol, I usually pump in BHP. I also can confirm BHP in Semenyih town don't have such service as well.

Oppss.. It seems like this website give the wrong info (check out number 59 and 79).. 

http://www.cityngv.com/ngv-refill-station/klang-valley/
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PETRONAS Sunway Semenyih is an NGV filling station. Popular with local taxis.
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post Jun 5 2014, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(Calculator2013 @ Jun 4 2014, 11:20 PM)
Wah!!! Got Grohe then good!!! rclxms.gif
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Grohe may NOT happen lah....They are pretty kiamsiap on this. I dont know why. To many, Goh Barn Huak is as good as ceramic tiles equivalent in flooring. hmm.gif
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post Jun 5 2014, 08:02 AM

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I am reading something about rain water harvest in a website. Just feel like sharing some notes from the website.

ADVANTAGES OF RAINWATER
1. Rainwater harvesting systems allow us to achieve a sustainable future with better environment.
2. Non-potable (Non-consumption) water can be obtained through rainwater harvesting system and be use for laundry washing, watering plants, car washing, toilet flushing, etc. Substituting municipal water with rainwater for non-potable usage can decrease half the amount of the municipal water used.
3. Roof rainwater only requires little treat prior to non-potable usage. Rainwater is normally contaminated with bacteria and hence not suitable as drinking water.
4. Reduce the amount of your water bill with the use of rainwater harvesting system.
5. Rainwater harvesting is a good form of water supply during water rationing or interruption of water supply.
6. Reducing the chances of flash flood as rainwater harvesting system reduces the rain water
run-off and thus the system can be formed as a part of the rainwater management scheme.
7. Soft water is obtained through rainwater and is ideal for washing purposes while reducing the amount of detergent used.
8. Rainwater is ideal for plants watering and filling up ponds as it is chlorine free.

source - http://www.rainwaterharvesting.com.my/why-...s-of-rainwater/

THis will be great to be incorporated in the house. Just like today, early morning already raining cats and dogs....
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post Jun 5 2014, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(tengster @ Jun 5 2014, 08:02 AM)
I am reading something about rain water harvest in a website. Just feel like sharing some notes from the website.

ADVANTAGES OF RAINWATER
1. Rainwater harvesting systems allow us to achieve a sustainable future with better environment.
2. Non-potable (Non-consumption) water can be obtained through rainwater harvesting system and be use for laundry washing, watering plants, car washing, toilet flushing, etc. Substituting municipal water with rainwater for non-potable usage can decrease half the amount of the municipal water used.
3. Roof rainwater only requires little treat prior to non-potable usage. Rainwater is normally contaminated with bacteria and hence not suitable as drinking water.
4. Reduce the amount of your water bill with the use of rainwater harvesting system.
5. Rainwater harvesting is a good form of water supply during water rationing or interruption of water supply.
6. Reducing the chances of flash flood as rainwater harvesting system reduces the rain water
run-off and thus the system can be formed as a part of the rainwater management scheme.
7. Soft water is obtained through rainwater and is ideal for washing purposes while reducing the amount of detergent used.
8. Rainwater is ideal for plants watering and filling up ponds as it is chlorine free.

source - http://www.rainwaterharvesting.com.my/why-...s-of-rainwater/

THis will be great to be incorporated in the house. Just like today, early morning already raining cats and dogs....
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Bro, the rain harvesting system only free for those semi-D right? Terrace got nothing right?
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post Jun 5 2014, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(tengster @ Jun 5 2014, 08:02 AM)
I am reading something about rain water harvest in a website. Just feel like sharing some notes from the website.

ADVANTAGES OF RAINWATER
1. Rainwater harvesting systems allow us to achieve a sustainable future with better environment.
2. Non-potable (Non-consumption) water can be obtained through rainwater harvesting system and be use for laundry washing, watering plants, car washing, toilet flushing, etc. Substituting municipal water with rainwater for non-potable usage can decrease half the amount of the municipal water used.
3. Roof rainwater only requires little treat prior to non-potable usage. Rainwater is normally contaminated with bacteria and hence not suitable as drinking water.
4. Reduce the amount of your water bill with the use of rainwater harvesting system.
5. Rainwater harvesting is a good form of water supply during water rationing or interruption of water supply.
6. Reducing the chances of flash flood as rainwater harvesting system reduces the rain water
run-off and thus the system can be formed as a part of the rainwater management scheme.
7. Soft water is obtained through rainwater and is ideal for washing purposes while reducing the amount of detergent used.
8. Rainwater is ideal for plants watering and filling up ponds as it is chlorine free.

source - http://www.rainwaterharvesting.com.my/why-...s-of-rainwater/

THis will be great to be incorporated in the house. Just like today, early morning already raining cats and dogs....
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boss, many disclaimer lah.
rainwater or whatever recycled water need to be treated.
the level of treatment determines the usability of the treated water.
the treatment also varies greatly, hence singapore has even succeeded in treating sanitary waste to drinkable water.

here lies the problem.
from my limited knowledge, rainwater harvesting tank is pretty basic. not much difference from having a pail to 'catch' rainfall.
this is the cheapest method but the water collected is pretty basic. you can only about do gardening watering with it. technically, not even safe for flushing or car washing.
if the water is not 'stored' properly, can lead to mosquito breeding ground.
and if the water is not used, it will be discharge when the next rainfall come, so eliminating the 'reduction of flash flood theory' (eg First in last out tank capacity).
the bigger danger lies in improper usage. if someone uses the stored water for usage that they are not suppose to, it might lead to illness.

in australia, their rainwater harvesting tank works because they put in some pretty hardcore filter. these filters does not come cheap locally (yet). and requires periodic maintenance and replacement. this is the biggest challenge as locals just loves to buy but are not programmed to be diligent in maintenance.

my 2 c boss.
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QUOTE(treehill @ Jun 5 2014, 08:16 AM)
Bro, the rain harvesting system only free for those semi-D right? Terrace got nothing right?
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I think cluster and semi-D.... DOnt know what and which system they will use...
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post Jun 5 2014, 08:22 AM

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Terrace they said no. I asked them how can be called eco if even this simple rainwater harvesting is not there? SA just smiled, dunno what else to say. blink.gif


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post Jun 5 2014, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(sarled @ Jun 5 2014, 08:22 AM)
Terrace they said no. I asked them how can be called eco if even this simple rainwater harvesting is not there? SA just smiled, dunno what else to say. blink.gif
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Your point is valid and even for the terrace house the price already premium especially those corner lots which reached 1 mill per unit. At the end of the day is all about money smile.gif
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QUOTE(tengster @ Jun 5 2014, 08:21 AM)
I think cluster and semi-D.... DOnt know what and which system they will use...
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Thanks bro... I expected this as well but thought miracle will happen.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kochin @ Jun 5 2014, 08:21 AM)
boss, many disclaimer lah.
rainwater or whatever recycled water need to be treated.
the level of treatment determines the usability of the treated water.
the treatment also varies greatly, hence singapore has even succeeded in treating sanitary waste to drinkable water.

here lies the problem.
from my limited knowledge, rainwater harvesting tank is pretty basic. not much difference from having a pail to 'catch' rainfall.
this is the cheapest method but the water collected is pretty basic. you can only about do gardening watering with it. technically, not even safe for flushing or car washing.
if the water is not 'stored' properly, can lead to mosquito breeding ground.
and if the water is not used, it will be discharge when the next rainfall come, so eliminating the 'reduction of flash flood theory' (eg First in last out tank capacity).
the bigger danger lies in improper usage. if someone uses the stored water for usage that they are not suppose to, it might lead to illness.

in australia, their rainwater harvesting tank works because they put in some pretty hardcore filter. these filters does not come cheap locally (yet). and requires periodic maintenance and replacement. this is the biggest challenge as locals just loves to buy but are not programmed to be diligent in maintenance.

my 2 c boss.
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I dont think rainwater will be treated in sophisticated manner. No ultrafilter or ultraviolet filtration. The system will probably use a no-brainer type of certain size mesh filter to get rid of larger items. This collected water is mainly for usage of non-critical places such as garden tap or somewhere there to wash car. I water my plant daily. I probably uses about 20-40 liters. I am using pails to catch the rainwater. Now I am geting 2-3 pails easily since it is raining.

Such system should come with proper cover etc just like our domestic water tank otherwise all hell went lose.

On the theory of reduction fo flash flood. The contribution is minimal but help to certain degree.....

I am still wondering on maintenance part. nod.gif
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post Jun 5 2014, 08:30 AM

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speaking of eco and green.
is ecomajestic being advertised to come with certain green accreditation?
eg. greenamrk, leed, gbi, greenre, etc?
if they are, do they come in platinum, gold plus, gold, silver or just certification only?
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post Jun 5 2014, 08:31 AM

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They could have priced this into their selling price and people wouldn't complain as it fits into their "eco" model. As it stands, eco is now nothing but a name......... nothing functional.
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QUOTE(sarled @ Jun 5 2014, 08:31 AM)
They could have priced this into their selling price and people wouldn't complain as it fits into their "eco" model. As it stands, eco is now nothing but a name......... nothing functional.
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You should have told Datuk Chang and Tan Sri on the launching day tongue.gif
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post Jun 5 2014, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(tengster @ Jun 5 2014, 08:29 AM)
I dont think rainwater will be treated in sophisticated manner. No ultrafilter or ultraviolet filtration. The system will probably use a no-brainer type of certain size mesh filter to get rid of larger items. This collected water is mainly for usage of non-critical places such as garden tap or somewhere there to wash car. I water my plant daily. I probably uses about 20-40 liters. I am using pails to catch the rainwater. Now I am geting 2-3 pails easily since it is raining.

Such system should come with proper cover etc just like our domestic water tank otherwise all hell went lose.

On the theory of reduction fo flash flood. The contribution is minimal but help to certain degree.....

I am still wondering on maintenance part. nod.gif
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careful on some filtration.
imagine if it's those typical filter where it flows vertically down, once filter dirty or jammed up, water above would be stagnant.
if it's horizontal filter, once filter jams up, the harvesting tank would be forever empty. biggrin.gif

flash flood scenario is because if your tank is full from the previous rainfall, hence when new rainfall arrives (eg daily in KV now), your harvesting tank will either take new water in and discharges existing stock OR reject new stock completely if it's full.
so technically does not 'retain' any volume of new rainfall.

not everybody adores plants like yourself teng yeh. a lot of urbanites just paved their entire porch bcos again lazy to maintain mah.
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QUOTE(sarled @ Jun 5 2014, 08:31 AM)
They could have priced this into their selling price and people wouldn't complain as it fits into their "eco" model. As it stands, eco is now nothing but a name......... nothing functional.
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boss, dunno true or not lah but ecosky claims to feature triple certification wor.
we shall see whether they deliver as promise or not.
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post Jun 5 2014, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Jun 5 2014, 08:30 AM)
speaking of eco and green.
is ecomajestic being advertised to come with certain green accreditation?
eg. greenamrk, leed, gbi, greenre, etc?
if they are, do they come in platinum, gold plus, gold, silver or just certification only?
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kochinkor....you heard of any development of terrace, cluster, semi-D or bungalow that are accredited with GBI or equivalent?

Think it about it...it gotta be damn tough to do so....
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QUOTE(treehill @ Jun 5 2014, 08:33 AM)
You should have told Datuk Chang and Tan Sri on the launching day  tongue.gif
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I could have, but I knew it would have changed nothing. So I felt a little cheated by the name and decided not to buy instead.

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