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post Jul 3 2014, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(darkskies @ Jul 3 2014, 11:56 AM)
1080 era is coming to an end.
Now manufacturers trying to clear off 1080 standards at a much cheaper price.
24inch could now go less than 800 be it ips , va or tn panels.
4k resolution is now penetrating the trend. one 32 inch lcd already cost as high as a 60inch 1080 lcd.
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But GPU does not has to power to push at 4K, for now.

1080p will still be the mainstream.

I can imagine maybe in 2 years time, torrent website will be filled with 4K Movies, 100GB+/movie.
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post Jul 3 2014, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ Jul 3 2014, 04:24 PM)
But GPU does not has to power to push at 4K, for now.

1080p will still be the mainstream.

I can imagine maybe in 2 years time, torrent website will be filled with 4K Movies, 100GB+/movie.
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not just GPU, internet speed as well

100Mbps isnt even enough to stream 4K, and most people are still on <100Mbps even on the most advanced nations

like you said, now with 4K, 4x the pixels.. the file size is estimated to be 4x of current compressed 1080p (25GBx4)


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post Jul 6 2014, 11:22 PM

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Guys,

im planning tu buy new monitor because want to use it with pc and ps4. currently im using dell s2330mx that only have dvi input and vga input. so i need a monitor with dual hdmi input and audio output or 1 hdmi input, 1 dvi input and audio output. i found that LG 23MP76H meet my requirement on input that it have. what i want to know is this monitor is good for gaming purpose or not? icon_question.gif icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

if i want to sell my DELL S2330MX what is the recommended price? i just use it not more than 2 years.
thanks.
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post Jul 7 2014, 11:35 AM

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post Jul 8 2014, 03:09 PM

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anybody can help ? my monitor model is S22A350H
I just take my back monitor from samsung service center
however, when I go control panel, my model is not showing S22A350H instead showing SMB2230H
the screen resolution is fine, but why model number is different ?
any idea what wrong ?
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post Jul 8 2014, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jul 8 2014, 03:09 PM)
anybody can help ? my monitor model is S22A350H
I just take my back monitor from samsung service center
however, when I go control panel, my model is not showing S22A350H instead showing SMB2230H
the screen resolution is fine, but why model number is different ?
any idea what wrong ?
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Is the panel and all those external looks the same when you pick it up?
If it's yes then probably they change the whole board (chipset and stuff) so probably took from other same size monitor and just plug it in, calibrate bit then send back to you.
If the screen display does not annoy you in anyway, such as color, screen details, uniformity, etc then just accept as it is, otherwise you can head back and try your best to suggest otherwise, you have your right on that particular model, and they should provide you with the exact model unless the model is already discontinue and they have no way to find the parts any more.
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post Jul 8 2014, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jul 7 2014, 11:35 AM)
but 1080p and 720p content seem to be much more prevalent as a digital medium.

The quality is still considered good, and the file size for such content is not too bad as well. Internet speeds these days are fast as well to download that big a file.
For example a bluray rip 1080p is roughly let's say 8-12gb In comparison how big in file size will 4k content be for the same thing ?  hmm.gif
For 4k content to really become mainstream, the media and hardware needs to be affordable.

But from what i've seen the 4k monitors are pricey, and if you do get that monitor, all your dvds, bluray 720p/1080p will be upscaled to fit the 4k reso monitor. Will it look alright ?  hmm.gif
4k maybe alright for big screen tvs (42'', 51'' and +), but for computer monitor ( 24'', 27'' 31'') i'm doubtful  hmm.gif
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for bolded part, thats cos most of us are using 1080p monitors or lesser. imagine 720p on 4K monitor, itll be like what 360p is for 1080p

most of bluray rips are highly compressed, hence always within the size of a BD disc max cap (25GB). even a 10Mbps internet is unlikely to be able to stream it without minor stutters (download is a diff case ofc, everyone is patient to wait)

4K is being pushed faster than the days of FHD, i wouldnt be surprised if by 2016, 4K is the new standard already and 8K is already unveiled to be next (rumors has it that japan been doing 8K testing for quite a while though)

as usual for new technology, the perks of being early adopter. not to mention, manufacturers usually throw in the best of the best screen panel, quality etc to make it worthwhile for early adopters which increases the price also
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Jul 8 2014, 05:03 PM)
Is the panel and all those external looks the same when you pick it up?
If it's yes then probably they change the whole board (chipset and stuff) so probably took from other same size monitor and just plug it in, calibrate bit then send back to you.
If the screen display does not annoy you in anyway, such as color, screen details, uniformity, etc then just accept as it is, otherwise you can head back and try your best to suggest otherwise, you have your right on that particular model, and they should provide you with the exact model unless the model is already discontinue and they have no way to find the parts any more.
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yup exactly the same
screen display so far is okay, no problem at all
and thanks for your explanation smile.gif
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post Jul 10 2014, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jul 10 2014, 05:48 AM)
highly compressed, so definitely watching from the original bluray is definitely better. But in terms of anime, sometimes the subs are not as good as fansubs, not to mention wear and tear for using the discs themselves. Also takes too much space if you rip the direct quality from the disc. So for a better balance compression is used. I guess it's up to the user what they would be more comfortable with. Fansubbing/encoding is an art so i leave it to the pros to do it on my behalf. Much nicer to stream digital media from my home QNAP NAS rather than using my actual physical discs all the time  smile.gif

i was an early adopter for lcd. Got the Dell 2405 FPW when it first came out, and that cost a bomb. These days can get a good premium ah-ips for half the price that i paid  smile.gif

but yeah you are right, 4k is more suited for a higher resolution screen, or more accurately a bigger '' size monitor.

Problem is that if most of your content is dvd, 720p and 1080p, it could prove problematic going to a higher resolution, because you lose the sharpness of your video the more you have to upscale to fit the resolution. Then again i have no experience testing a 27'', 31'' or higher for my pc gaming/anime, so not sure how much of an issue in quality this could pose. Maybe it's not too a big deal  hmm.gif
I prefer 1920x1200 because i get more working space in apps, games, desktop etc. Also the taller black bars don't really bother me when viewing 1920x1080 (aka 1080p) content. This is on a 24'' screen which to me is more suitable for such content.
For early adopter for 4k, there is the Eizo highend 27'' monitor i saw which could downscale 4k content to work on a lower resolution
http://www.eizo.co.uk/EIZO-ColorEdge-CG276...-for-4Kx2K.html
But whatever monitor you get, i suggest viewing the video content using HC-MPC + Madvr + reclock + lavfilters + XySubFilter
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=516729
https://imouto.my/madvr/
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i do agree with the quality of anime for fansubs vs discs. personally, ive encountered purchased ones that have rather horrible translation, to the point its annoying. at least the fansubs are good enough

i really feel sad for people who got hyped for 4K yet watches DVD resolution videos on it... thats really sad

as for image quality, depending on how good is the upscale i guess. for example, animes. some are upscaled very very well, while some are just no diff (most anime are made in 720p not 1080p)

im using MPC-HC with KCP (LavFilter, Madvr etc) for movies/animes. previously use VLC but VLC likes to throw in a sort of sepia filter hmm.gif and they dont do upscales very well

MPC-HC fixes it for my case
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may I know which one is better? AOC i2369Vm or Dell u2414h?
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post Jul 12 2014, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jul 12 2014, 07:08 AM)
actually i never really jumped on that vlc bandwagon. But i did use the cccp for a time, but they've really lost their relevance now.

There are guides out there that can show newbs like me how to install and configure to get 10bit anime working properly smile.gif  even updating isn't an issue anymore.
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i dont have 10bit monitor, going 10bit for me is wasted laugh.gif

as for VLC, theyre damn good as one of the best hassle free player

install, then it plays everything. in MPC-HC, youll need to install codec packs, filters etc for desirable effect
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Could use some help in deciding a new monitor purchase.

Contemplating either the Samsung 4K monitor (U28D590D) or a dual/triple display array. Running a single GTX 680. laugh.gif

Could use suggestions for monitor models for the triple array too.
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QUOTE(pristine @ Jul 12 2014, 07:37 PM)
Could use some help in deciding a new monitor purchase.

Contemplating either the Samsung 4K monitor (U28D590D) or a dual/triple display array. Running a single GTX 680. laugh.gif

Could use suggestions for monitor models for the triple array too.
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1. do you like bezels? smile.gif

answering this question should give you an idea already
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post Jul 12 2014, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jul 12 2014, 09:22 PM)
1. do you like bezels? smile.gif

answering this question should give you an idea already
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Good question. Actually I'm cool with slim bezels. I like the idea of multi monitor with legible fonts. Have never used a 4K monitor in UHD resolution so I have no idea what the text will be like. Afraid they won't be legible. Anyone here got an idea?

Are the DELL U2414H the best (price/performance/features) I can get for a multiple monitor setup? Or are there other options I should consider?
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QUOTE(pristine @ Jul 12 2014, 09:31 PM)
Good question. Actually I'm cool with slim bezels. I like the idea of multi monitor with legible fonts. Have never used a 4K monitor in UHD resolution so I have no idea what the text will be like. Afraid they won't be legible. Anyone here got an idea?

Are the DELL U2414H the best (price/performance/features) I can get for a multiple monitor setup? Or are there other options I should consider?
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multimonitor is nice if you like to multitask alot (open browser one monitor, play video another monitor etc etc) smile.gif

as for using 4K monitor, so far the only one i can say to ask about it is prolly Unseen83, as he have the Samsung 4K monitor, maybe he can tell you how is it like. as for the text wise, some youtubers did provide their opinion as well, you can search for them

you can take a look at the AOC i2369V as well, AH-IPS, 1080p resolution, slim bezel too. about RM600+ afaik
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jul 12 2014, 09:51 PM)
multimonitor is nice if you like to multitask alot (open browser one monitor, play video another monitor etc etc) smile.gif

as for using 4K monitor, so far the only one i can say to ask about it is prolly Unseen83, as he have the Samsung 4K monitor, maybe he can tell you how is it like. as for the text wise, some youtubers did provide their opinion as well, you can search for them

you can take a look at the AOC i2369V as well, AH-IPS, 1080p resolution, slim bezel too. about RM600+ afaik
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Will go check out some videos later, thanks.

Seen the AOC, wasn't really impressed. Haha.

Any opinion on the Samsung S24D390HL or S24D590PL?
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QUOTE(pristine @ Jul 12 2014, 09:59 PM)
Will go check out some videos later, thanks.

Seen the AOC, wasn't really impressed. Haha.

Any opinion on the Samsung S24D390HL or S24D590PL?
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i cant really say for Samsung monitors, never did use them before nor test them out :/
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jul 12 2014, 10:17 PM)
i cant really say for Samsung monitors, never did use them before nor test them out :/
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Hm. No VESA. And horrible stands. I think I'll stick with the U2414H. Lol

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