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post Jun 4 2014, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 1 2014, 11:33 AM)
You guys do understand that the Dell U2414H has a serious flaw that it doesn't properly use the correct color profile when it is connected via DP/HDMI from a Nvidia card, right?

The monitor will be recognized as a "HDTV" and will be locked in 16-255 limited range. This is absolutely wrong.
Currently the temporary fix is to force a full range RGB in your own Windows registry, but this is temporary and it doesn't work with every program as it would like a proper switch will.

Some people has reported that the latest A02 revision of the U2414H has fixed this issue, but the power saving freeze bug is still a problem.
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i heard Nvidia cards always have profile issues on HDMI but first time i heard on DP hmm.gif

like you mentioned, the colour will be locked under HDTV range instead of monitor range, which is unacceptable
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post Jun 9 2014, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Jun 9 2014, 04:28 PM)
is U2312HM so gd?
worth getting it used?
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using it atm

besides the usual IPS glow problem, so far so good

sturdy build, tilt/swivel feature, good screen quality. one of my best purchase so far

usually it have 5 or 3 year warranty so check with the seller if his is 3 or 5 year. the 5 year one is still worthy
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post Jun 26 2014, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jun 26 2014, 09:57 PM)
the only time i ever got a dell was my first lcd the Dell 2405FPW. Haven't had another till this new u2413 i just ordered and thats due in a week  hmm.gif

The other brand i tried is HP LP2475W. It was good but i later ended up having to get a replacement model because of the panel lottery when it came to this model.

So from my experience, both Dell and HP monitors have a good local presence here in Malaysia in terms of shipping and getting replacement monitors.
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Dell and LG shouldnt be much different from each other

i heard it was LG who manufactures Dell monitor panels
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post Jul 3 2014, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ Jul 3 2014, 04:24 PM)
But GPU does not has to power to push at 4K, for now.

1080p will still be the mainstream.

I can imagine maybe in 2 years time, torrent website will be filled with 4K Movies, 100GB+/movie.
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not just GPU, internet speed as well

100Mbps isnt even enough to stream 4K, and most people are still on <100Mbps even on the most advanced nations

like you said, now with 4K, 4x the pixels.. the file size is estimated to be 4x of current compressed 1080p (25GBx4)


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post Jul 8 2014, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jul 7 2014, 11:35 AM)
but 1080p and 720p content seem to be much more prevalent as a digital medium.

The quality is still considered good, and the file size for such content is not too bad as well. Internet speeds these days are fast as well to download that big a file.
For example a bluray rip 1080p is roughly let's say 8-12gb In comparison how big in file size will 4k content be for the same thing ?  hmm.gif
For 4k content to really become mainstream, the media and hardware needs to be affordable.

But from what i've seen the 4k monitors are pricey, and if you do get that monitor, all your dvds, bluray 720p/1080p will be upscaled to fit the 4k reso monitor. Will it look alright ?  hmm.gif
4k maybe alright for big screen tvs (42'', 51'' and +), but for computer monitor ( 24'', 27'' 31'') i'm doubtful  hmm.gif
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for bolded part, thats cos most of us are using 1080p monitors or lesser. imagine 720p on 4K monitor, itll be like what 360p is for 1080p

most of bluray rips are highly compressed, hence always within the size of a BD disc max cap (25GB). even a 10Mbps internet is unlikely to be able to stream it without minor stutters (download is a diff case ofc, everyone is patient to wait)

4K is being pushed faster than the days of FHD, i wouldnt be surprised if by 2016, 4K is the new standard already and 8K is already unveiled to be next (rumors has it that japan been doing 8K testing for quite a while though)

as usual for new technology, the perks of being early adopter. not to mention, manufacturers usually throw in the best of the best screen panel, quality etc to make it worthwhile for early adopters which increases the price also
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post Jul 10 2014, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jul 10 2014, 05:48 AM)
highly compressed, so definitely watching from the original bluray is definitely better. But in terms of anime, sometimes the subs are not as good as fansubs, not to mention wear and tear for using the discs themselves. Also takes too much space if you rip the direct quality from the disc. So for a better balance compression is used. I guess it's up to the user what they would be more comfortable with. Fansubbing/encoding is an art so i leave it to the pros to do it on my behalf. Much nicer to stream digital media from my home QNAP NAS rather than using my actual physical discs all the time  smile.gif

i was an early adopter for lcd. Got the Dell 2405 FPW when it first came out, and that cost a bomb. These days can get a good premium ah-ips for half the price that i paid  smile.gif

but yeah you are right, 4k is more suited for a higher resolution screen, or more accurately a bigger '' size monitor.

Problem is that if most of your content is dvd, 720p and 1080p, it could prove problematic going to a higher resolution, because you lose the sharpness of your video the more you have to upscale to fit the resolution. Then again i have no experience testing a 27'', 31'' or higher for my pc gaming/anime, so not sure how much of an issue in quality this could pose. Maybe it's not too a big deal  hmm.gif
I prefer 1920x1200 because i get more working space in apps, games, desktop etc. Also the taller black bars don't really bother me when viewing 1920x1080 (aka 1080p) content. This is on a 24'' screen which to me is more suitable for such content.
For early adopter for 4k, there is the Eizo highend 27'' monitor i saw which could downscale 4k content to work on a lower resolution
http://www.eizo.co.uk/EIZO-ColorEdge-CG276...-for-4Kx2K.html
But whatever monitor you get, i suggest viewing the video content using HC-MPC + Madvr + reclock + lavfilters + XySubFilter
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=516729
https://imouto.my/madvr/
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i do agree with the quality of anime for fansubs vs discs. personally, ive encountered purchased ones that have rather horrible translation, to the point its annoying. at least the fansubs are good enough

i really feel sad for people who got hyped for 4K yet watches DVD resolution videos on it... thats really sad

as for image quality, depending on how good is the upscale i guess. for example, animes. some are upscaled very very well, while some are just no diff (most anime are made in 720p not 1080p)

im using MPC-HC with KCP (LavFilter, Madvr etc) for movies/animes. previously use VLC but VLC likes to throw in a sort of sepia filter hmm.gif and they dont do upscales very well

MPC-HC fixes it for my case
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post Jul 12 2014, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jul 12 2014, 07:08 AM)
actually i never really jumped on that vlc bandwagon. But i did use the cccp for a time, but they've really lost their relevance now.

There are guides out there that can show newbs like me how to install and configure to get 10bit anime working properly smile.gif  even updating isn't an issue anymore.
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i dont have 10bit monitor, going 10bit for me is wasted laugh.gif

as for VLC, theyre damn good as one of the best hassle free player

install, then it plays everything. in MPC-HC, youll need to install codec packs, filters etc for desirable effect
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post Jul 12 2014, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(pristine @ Jul 12 2014, 07:37 PM)
Could use some help in deciding a new monitor purchase.

Contemplating either the Samsung 4K monitor (U28D590D) or a dual/triple display array. Running a single GTX 680. laugh.gif

Could use suggestions for monitor models for the triple array too.
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1. do you like bezels? smile.gif

answering this question should give you an idea already
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post Jul 12 2014, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(pristine @ Jul 12 2014, 09:31 PM)
Good question. Actually I'm cool with slim bezels. I like the idea of multi monitor with legible fonts. Have never used a 4K monitor in UHD resolution so I have no idea what the text will be like. Afraid they won't be legible. Anyone here got an idea?

Are the DELL U2414H the best (price/performance/features) I can get for a multiple monitor setup? Or are there other options I should consider?
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multimonitor is nice if you like to multitask alot (open browser one monitor, play video another monitor etc etc) smile.gif

as for using 4K monitor, so far the only one i can say to ask about it is prolly Unseen83, as he have the Samsung 4K monitor, maybe he can tell you how is it like. as for the text wise, some youtubers did provide their opinion as well, you can search for them

you can take a look at the AOC i2369V as well, AH-IPS, 1080p resolution, slim bezel too. about RM600+ afaik
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post Jul 12 2014, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(pristine @ Jul 12 2014, 09:59 PM)
Will go check out some videos later, thanks.

Seen the AOC, wasn't really impressed. Haha.

Any opinion on the Samsung S24D390HL or S24D590PL?
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i cant really say for Samsung monitors, never did use them before nor test them out :/
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post Jul 12 2014, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(pristine @ Jul 12 2014, 10:31 PM)
Hm. No VESA. And horrible stands. I think I'll stick with the U2414H. Lol
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U24's only issue is the backlit bleeding, if youre lucky you shouldnt get this issue

other than that, its a solid 9/10, great monitor
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post Jul 22 2014, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jul 22 2014, 09:07 AM)
1. MPC-HC Nightly (installer, x86, updated every 4 days)
2. LAV filters
3. madVR
4. XySubFilter
5. ReClock
I had installed a while ago. The updating process is also quite simple really. Also it's not like you have to do it every so often. I'd only do it maybe once a year ?
Oh by the way, i also disable the internal filters in mpc, because i'm using the external package from lav filters.
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more or less similar to mine, i got the KCP pack though, AIO for easier installation purposes

you need to do that? i thought just change filter to lav and itll be fine?
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post Aug 1 2014, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(f5calvin @ Aug 1 2014, 08:32 PM)
hi guys, dno if it's the right place to ask, any recommendations for monitors around 23 - 24 inch IPS monitor ? budget less than 1k. if can around 700.. wanna use for photo editing. thanks.
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Dell U2414HM RM800+ (AH-IPS)

cant go wrong with this model, though becareful of the HDMI and DP colour support if youre using Nvidia cards

on a random note, just started muh working life and company provides 16:10 monitors

oh dayum, i understood why people love it so much nod.gif

i also fell in love with it dee
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post Aug 2 2014, 02:09 AM

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QUOTE(f5calvin @ Aug 1 2014, 11:14 PM)
16:10 is better than 16:9?
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the extra vertical height is so nice nod.gif

QUOTE(f5calvin @ Aug 1 2014, 11:21 PM)
wat bout dell P2414H? or the S2340L?
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P24 is okay, but the U series have better colour accuracy

S23 is glossy, so you might be annoyed with it after a while
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post Aug 2 2014, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(f5calvin @ Aug 2 2014, 02:36 PM)
i checked the p24, it says it has the same panel as the u2414hm useing ah-ips panel. u2412m was using e-ips panel
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just double checked, yeah its the same panel (LG panel) just diff looks (thick vs thin bezel) and the variety of cable connection it supports
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post Aug 2 2014, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(f5calvin @ Aug 2 2014, 02:50 PM)
btw in dell malaysia website i only see the model p2314, cant find p2414.  blink.gif  The monitor din come to malaysia?
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i found it here
http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/product...BBJZ&redirect=1

but no price tag yet hmm.gif
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post Aug 2 2014, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(f5calvin @ Aug 2 2014, 02:59 PM)
saw in lelong costs around 810.. 3 yr warranty. i guess going for u2414h better since 5 yr warranty n looks better..
unless i go for p2314 which is around 150 cheaper.  hmm.gif
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should be fine, just becareful if youre using Nvidia GPUs

the HDMI and DP colour is messed up
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post Aug 2 2014, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(f5calvin @ Aug 2 2014, 03:24 PM)
im using ATI Radeon, does it have any effect?
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dont think so

the prob so far only for Nvidia cards

but can be fixed
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post Aug 2 2014, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Aug 2 2014, 11:42 PM)
what problem? can elaborate?
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Nvidia have this problem where the full range of colours on HDMI and DP is not full 0-255 colours, but 16-235 colours that most TVs have

this will result in some 'washed out' look, bad for colour accuracy
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post Aug 2 2014, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Aug 2 2014, 11:48 PM)
Thanks.

What's the best 16:10 monitor you recommend? Thinking of Dell Ultra sharp 2412m

Not sure whether there's any others available in Malaysia.
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the problem has been ongoing for very long, yet Nvidia still havent fixed it doh.gif

as at this moment, best price to perf would be U2412M RM900+

there are others by Lenovo and HP, but i do not know the pricing

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