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Advice Wanted [WTA] Proposal Ring & Wedding Bands, Please advice me!! Need Help!!

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post Mar 18 2017, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(duckevo @ Mar 18 2017, 07:30 PM)
Thx bro... Now headache on the design...
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You prefer simple design or vintage design? Perhaps this will help?

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4159205

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QUOTE(duckevo @ Mar 19 2017, 08:20 AM)
This is juz too complex for me... Looking at some of jann paul design for inspiration...
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Browse the photos on their Facebook page. Got a lot there.
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QUOTE(duckevo @ Mar 20 2017, 11:07 AM)
yup.... saw eumayco also got nice design....

planning to merged jann paul n eumayco design together....  thumbup.gif

n wedding band to match the diamond ring as well....  hmm.gif
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Macam big project there!

Good luck bro.
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post Mar 23 2017, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Mar 23 2017, 05:51 PM)
The specs are pretty decent. Enchanted Cut Score returns 97.2, while HCA is 1.3. So we can put this into consideration. At 35.5 degrees, the crown angle seems to stretch to the steeper side of things, but pairing with a 40.6 degree pavilion which is narrow, it should perform decently. There could be less light return, but you will be compensated with more fire. All other proportions checks out pretty well with those recommended online. At this price, I think it is quite fair, but press your luck a little and make it even lower. tongue.gif

If it is a loose stone, you may request to view the Hearts & Arrows using a H&A scope.

No idealscope nor ASET is normal. I did not come across anyone in Malaysia that carry those. Some may claim to have, so no harm asking again if you engage another jeweler.

All the best bro!
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myvi_dog Try and round it up to RM3,000.

Ehh wait bro, but in his post there he said he "just bought" this stone? Buy liao how to press?

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QUOTE(duckevo @ Mar 24 2017, 05:40 PM)
finalizing the ring setting tomolo.... hope it looks good at the final product....  thumbup.gif
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Don't forget bro... Drillz or it didn't happen.

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QUOTE(CurryKueh @ Mar 24 2017, 08:44 PM)
By the way I thought jann paul is only available at sg? Didn't know that KL has jann paul too.
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JannPaul is in Singapore. If you have the time, I strongly recommend you to make a trip down to Singapore and visit JannPaul. Not only they provide 3D models of your design, they also allow unlimited design changes. My setting went thru 7 rounds of changes over 4 months at absolutely no extra cost! 4 long months just to come up with a one-of-a-kind proposal ring for my SO. You can never get this kind of service in Malaysia, I am sure!

You wanna know the amount of visits I made to JannPaul during my ring designing process ahh? Zero. All design revisions, updates and whatnot are communicated thru e-mails and phone calls cuz they know sometimes the guy is "inconvenient" to personally go to the shop.

Ok I need to stop. Otherwise I will sound like a JannPaul promoter haha. Feel free to ask me any questions bro.

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I saw that you are looking for loose diamonds too. Again, if you have time, try JannPaul. During your appointment, they will start with a 1-hr to 1.5-hr education session, from which you will learn the basics plus what to look out for in a good diamond. This is really an education session with no obligations. No money involved whatsoever.

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QUOTE(calamity88 @ Mar 25 2017, 07:03 PM)
Bros and sis. I'm interested in getting engagement ring Not from the mainstream shops. May I ask how it works if let's say I wanna get from whiteflash.com and setting by ido? First I wait the diamond to be delivered then contact ido for setting? And how safe is purchasing diamonds online. Tq!
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There are a few (well-known) online stores available:

James Allen
Whiteflash
Brian Gavin
Blue Nile

It is safe to buy it online. I purchased from James Allen before and had it delivered to Singapore.

James Allen's website is very user friendly, as everything you need is available there. This includes a revolutionary 360-degree rotating view of your diamond in HD. You will be able to inspect and see whatever flaws and inclusions in the diamond right from the comfort of your room.

I don't know about Whiteflash and Brian Gavin cuz I have never bought anything from them, but I do not recommend Blue Nile. Although they are the biggest online diamond retailer, they do not let you view your diamond before buying, which is as good as buying blind. Unless you have a unbiased diamond expert sitting next to you, you can't really tell whether a diamond is good or bad just by looking at their GIA certificates.

First choose your perfect diamond and while waiting for it to be delivered, you can start sourcing for jewellers who can design and craft your ring. I did mine in Singapore, thus I cannot really recommend much in this regard. Last time I engaged Tailored Jewel, you can try talking to them and see how it goes. But I am sure bros here have given you a list of available jewellers for your purpose.
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Mar 26 2017, 01:10 PM)
I got it.. 2226477564
2234134376 0.30 vs2, d, 3ex
7228757937 0.36, vs2, f, 3ex
1199291530 0.3, vs2, f, 3ex
2217764132 0.30, vs2, e, 3ex

2226477564 0.31 d, vvs2, 3ex
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Can include the price as well bro?
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Mar 26 2017, 02:43 PM)
Hmm.. I got the price in picture only.. but among these few, which one is good to go.. I wish to decide by today
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What's the hurry bro? Usually the longer you drag, the more eager the salesperson becomes and the more easier you get to squeeze them dry.

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QUOTE(CurryKueh @ Mar 28 2017, 07:56 AM)
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Still think that personalised is worthy than buy a ring from Tiffany.
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Definitely lahh bro! You are only paying for the TIFFANY brand name instead of for your diamond's worth.

So fook Tiffany!
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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Mar 28 2017, 12:50 PM)
wow damn! it is pretty! great proportions. i would only complain about the girdle thickness but i will still say it is a damn good diamond.

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That's why I have been recommending JannPaul since the day I visited them. Even if you know nuts about diamond and the 4Cs, you will never go wrong with their Super Ideals. Although it is more expensive, that ASET image and symmetry clearly justified its price tag.

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QUOTE(myren25 @ Mar 28 2017, 11:14 AM)
Dear all sifu sekalian, just went to JannPaul and get quoted with the following spec,

Super Ideal Cut
0.55 F VS2
$4,150

Is it ok with the spec and price?

need sharp eyes to gauge..  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Fuiyohh bro, JannPaul! Super Ideal some more. Don't play play!

As rightly mentioned by the sifu kambingkoh, this particular stone has all the qualities of a handsome and good looking diamond. Just look at its symmetry! Its ASET image is bloody red like human blood!

Think no more bro, pay them the deposit!
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QUOTE(myren25 @ Mar 28 2017, 03:57 PM)
Hahaa.. JP is the first store I have visited. Yet to visit any store in Msia yet.. or shall I proceed with JP straight? hahahaha...

Since the setting could be achieved at a cheaper price in Msia, would it be a good idea to buy setting and ask JP to fabricate the diamond on it?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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I surveyed diamonds in Malaysia first before going to JannPaul. I can tell you that you will not be able to get to see your diamond's performance under the ASET and Idealscope scopes, especially in B&M stores like Wah Chan, Goldheart, etc. At most they only have the hearts and arrows scope for loose diamonds. The H&A scope can only tell you how symmetrical your diamond is. So all you can do is predict the performance using its proportions, like what the sifus here have been doing.

You can buy your diamond from JannPaul and pass it on to a local jeweller and let them set it.

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QUOTE(duckevo @ Apr 2 2017, 07:30 AM)
Something worth reading

Overcharged by 330%
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This proves my "hypothesis" that there is no such thing as "branded diamonds".

Thanks for sharing bro!
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QUOTE(naijnaij @ Apr 2 2017, 01:42 PM)
Thx for the insight. Appreciate it.
Yes bro..The diamond already set..As for the price..I guess it's the discount I'm getting from a friend's referral. It's from one of those old school Chinaman jewellery shops in an old shopping complex in KL.

I'm comparing with this actually:
GIA:5176569863
0.34c F SI1
Similar setting in 18k rose gold rm4.2k

To be honest..I can't really tell the difference between these 2 diamonds in terms of brightness..fire etc. It kinda looks the same to me.. the only major noticeable difference is the size..haha
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Of course you will notice the size difference cuz one is 60.5% depth (shallow cut) and the other is 62.4%. One good thing about shallow cut is that it will appear larger face-up. So if you don't mind sacrificing a bit of fire here and a bit of brilliance there, then go for shallow cut.
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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Apr 2 2017, 05:41 PM)
Well, I won't consider the 0.34c F SI1 because:
1. 62.4% is cut too deep, as indicated by bb100.
2. 36 degree crown angle is too steep. It will be a good idea to keep things between 34 - 35 degrees.
3. SI1 with feather and twinning wisp? Without knowing the location of the inclusion is a no-no to me.

The benefit of the earlier 0.37 is definitely the size, as indicated by bb100 as well.

However, if you don't mind a slightly smaller diamond, you may refer to this diamond that I have chosen from WhiteFlash just now to compare the price:
http://myengagementringexperience.blogspot...whiteflash.html
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QUOTE(Alex Yow @ Apr 18 2017, 07:14 PM)
Ok, btw bro i got one more option this price is cheaper compare to previous, around 46xx
Carat: 0.30ct
Color: E
Clarity: VS 2
Cut: Excellent
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: Faint
Depth %: 62.60%
Table %: 57.00%
Crown Angle: 35.5
Pavillion Angle: 41
Hearts & Arrows: None
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What the fook???

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This is a deep cut stone.

Avoid.

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Here are a few examples which matches the above grades and proportions:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/r....6&DepthTo=62.6

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QUOTE(Alex Yow @ Apr 18 2017, 10:10 PM)
Thanks bro for the advise, I'm a newbies so not sure which to choose and the only thing I know is color, clarity and cut other than that really clueless.  cry.gif
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Ohh I see. Newbie never mind bro, I was a newbie myself too haha.

I "what the fook" just now cuz how come hearts and arrows NONE one?? That's a good indicator that the stone is not good. You can clearly see in the link I posted. The arrows are either senget or invisible.

How cheap also AVOID!!!
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QUOTE(Alex Yow @ Apr 18 2017, 11:30 PM)
But u know more than me, so not consider newbies  brows.gif
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You see me good, I see you good only bro. The real pro here is abang Koh.

His research on diamonds is so in depth, I think he can write a PhD thesis liao.
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Apr 19 2017, 11:58 AM)
Made up my mind to propose next year - aint getting any younger by the years.

After screening through pages, seems like JP and Michael Trio (both in SG) offers one of the best value for money diamonds yeah?

Like what forumers have suggested, best to get loose diamond and have the setting done in MY. Btw all, if i have the loose diamond, do i put it on a temporary setting to propose or set in directly?
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I did not have a good experience with Michael Trio.

Went there and told them that I am looking for a heart shaped diamond and gave them my 4C requirements. Then they showed me a few ready stocks but were not to my liking. So they told me to give them a day to source for a few more heart shapes and that they will contact me once they are ready. Looked at a few of their ring designs before leaving.

The next day they contacted me and asked me to go to their shop again to "view" the stones. When I was there, the sales assistant whipped out a few sheets of printed GIA certs and asked me to study the certs and let him know if I prefer any one of them. He then proceeded to take out his invoice book and started filling in my details. I opened eyes big big, told him to hold his horses and asked him how to choose. He said they did not have the actual stones with them and these were located somewhere in their "warehouse" so all I could do was to look at the proportions, the 4Cs etc. from the papers.

I straight thanked him for his efforts and left the place.

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