I send it by hand. I go to their office directly. If you want, you can ask jewellers in Malaysia such as Habib to send it for you. But it takes about a month.

Guys... with RM5K on hand, should I go for the 'size' or the 'cutting' itself ? hmm...

I think it should always be a balance. Just like you wouldn't want a Clarity I3 diamond (I hope!), you also shouldn't go for a lousy cut diamond. Similarly, is there a need to go for IF diamonds, when VS1/VS2 would definitely be eye-clean?

I suggest that put a 'cut-off' for the other 3Cs, and maximize size. That's how I did it, and would do it the same way if I needed to do it again. Ultimately, the most obvious thing about diamonds is the face-up area (which correlates much to the size).

Meaning you send it to GIA's office in Bangkok/Singapore? I can't find one in Malaysia.

Yup, correct.

Bro, any advise for this???

After survey, i conclude the diamond as below....which is worth to buy??

0.30 f Si1 rm2839
0.32 G Si1 rm2680
0.34 G Si1 Rm3103
0.34 H Si2 RM3100

I am sorry but apsrt from the size, i cant really differentiate it.

Pls advise

kambingkoh

This post has been edited by cute_miao: Nov 22 2016, 05:33 PM

What you gave is very limited info. Like I said, get the GIA number for all of the diamonds. Otherwise, nothing can be determined through here. Next time, ask for GIA cert and takr picture.

I assume the price above includes ring? Otherwise it is really expensive.

Include.....but might change the setting cz the free 1 is the basic without any design.




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Among the 3, personally will get the last one, reasons being:
1. It has symmetrical arrows in comparison to the other options.
2. It has steep crown angle (35 degrees), hence, it should display a lot of fire. Although steep crown angle can reduce light return (brilliance), but in this case, the fire & brilliance should be balanced according to http://www.prosumerdiamonds.com/how-to-pick-diamond/, – For Crown Angle = 35°, Pavilion Angle = 40.6°.

Diamond 2 is also quite okay if you are on a budget, however, please note:
1. Diamond 2's cut is not as good as diamond 3.
2. Diamond 2 has lack of fire, but should show more brilliance (whiteness), due to the shallow crown angle.

Don't bother diamond 1. The cut is not good and its crown angle is too steep (36 degrees), causing too much light leakage.

Reference:
http://www.prosumerdiamonds.com/how-to-pick-diamond/.
http://www.prosumerdiamonds.com/crown-angle/

Hope this helps.

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Nov 23 2016, 12:15 AM

Similar to kambingkoh, I would choose Diamond 3, but with a caveat. I want to have a clearer picture of the top down picture before making the final comment.

Reason is due to the arrows are most aligned when compared to the rest. Diamond 1 and 2 has problems with the arrows in the table reflection (the octagon in the middle). All other specs (Crown Angle, Pavilion Angle, Table Size, Depth, Star Length and Girdle) checks out well. There is however something which should pay attention to, the location of the inclusion. Given that this is a SI1 with only 1 inclusion characteristic, the inclusion will usually be a major one located somewhere in the diamond. Which is why I need a clearer picture before making a final call.

I would prefer not to choose Diamond 1 or Diamond 2. But if you insist, my second choice of mine would be Diamond 1. The arrows are actually better aligned compared to diamond 2. Diamond 2 is a bit too shallow in my opinion. Crown angle of 34 deg mated with pavilion of 40.6 deg is slightly on the shallow end. 36 deg with 40.6 would be a better match. And from the star and upper girdle facets in the picture, there seems to be quite a few spots of light leakages in diamond 2. But frankly, I'd rather choose neither of them, because there seems to be black spots that can be seen on the table, which is a big put off for me.

You gave us 4 choices initially, what happened to the other one?

Also, see how much better feedback we can give if you can give us this report earlier? Makes all the difference in the world.

cute_miao But let me add another comments on this. I suggest that you ask for 0.3c VS2 instead because with an additional of RM 300 or less, you can get something with better clarity and worry less about where the inclusions will be at. Just top up a little more for that peace of mind. I would do that if I were you.

Thanks guys for the reply.

The last 1, i couldnt remember the Gia number....

hmm? the last one is not from Tailored Jewel? If yes, then it should be showing in the list they sent you, no?

Hi. I wonder if this is a good buy for RM4500
0.48carat / D / SI2 /
Cut = very good
Polish = very good
Flouresence = strong blue.

Please advise me. Fellow guru.

It is a fair price. You're not getting it at a big discount, neither are you overpaying. You are only getting a slight benefit as this is a premium carat size. It all boils down to the cut.

But need to look at the certificate. Do you have the GIA number?

How about the diamond's symmetry?

Also, as mentioned by DoomCognition, do provide the cert number as well. Knowing the proportions can give you better insights.

IMO, you can get slightly better specs if you reduce the size of the carat and maintain the price around RM 4,500 - RM 5,000. But since you asking about whether it is a good buy or not, then, the price seems fair enough as I can't seem to find any similar stones that match your price online. Those I came across are around USD 1100 - USD 1200 (excluding GST).

However, do note that in general fluorescence will lower the price of the diamond. As for lower by how many percent, I am not sure. Perhaps you can use this point to negotiate for a better price.

Since you are buying an SI2 diamond, you will need to check with the dealer and see for yourself whether it is eye-clean.


Again, please look at the diamond yourself before purchasing.

All the best in your diamond hunting!

any suggestion where to get proposal ring? any christmas discounts?

budget 10k

This post has been edited by hwachong: Nov 28 2016, 09:00 PM

Try Wah Chan or Habib. Alternatively, if you're up for some self service, you can get the stone separately. I can source the stones (subject to you having some time) for you and you can have your rings done somewhere else.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4102666&hl=

With your budget, I reckon you can get something like a H VS 2 of 0.6c, based on the current lousy exchange rate (am taking only 8k, with 2k left for your ring)

If you prefer super ideal diamonds, then you can take a look at the 2 below. You won't be getting anything above 0.50ct, but diamonds within the range of 0.40ct.

Diamond:
Brian Gavin Diamond:
Sample:
Click Me!

Experience sharing link:
Link 1

WhiteFlash:
Sample:
Click Me!

Experience sharing links:
Link 1
Link 2

For WhiteFlash, I am affiliated with it, if you are buying from them, appreciate if you can add in my link if they ask for it.


Note:
1. They are not cheap if you just compare the 4Cs, but diamonds are not just limited to 4Cs. These diamonds have clear Hearts & Arrows and are extremely well-cut, hence, providing good balance of brilliance and fire.
2. They are cheaper than branded diamonds you can get in the market, for instance, Lazare, Tiffany, Hearts on Fire, Cartier.

18K White Gold Ring Setting:
iDo Jewellery - RM 1,800 for simple solitaire design.
Location: Bukit Jalil. Call for appointment.

Note:
1. Ling's work is not bad. But you have to remind her to check on the final goods before delivery, such as whether it is well polished.
2. Try to get the ring size right for the first time. Resizing has a good chance to make the design slightly off compare to the original one and will have a tiny line on the ring later.

Other tips:
Go to Audrey's to do some price survey.
Learn about diamonds:
Prosumer Diamonds
Beyond4cs
Niceice

Other notes:

Exchange rate when I bought that time was 4.17.

Alternatively you can visit some local stores and see for yourself. Wah Chan is famous for its competitive prices.

What I am sharing is my own personal experience of buying online and getting it set locally. The price is fair for me considering what I am getting - Super Ideal. It should be cheaper than what you can get locally for the same kind of cut. Some shops will brand their ring as perfect Hearts & Arrows aka Super Ideal, but you have to see it to believe it. Always ask to see the Arrows from the top and Hearts from the bottom. Most shops won't let you see the bottom because the diamond is always set in a ring setting. You can probably take a look at their loose stone sample (if they have one). I saw one loose stone sample of Estrella diamond from Diamond & Platinum which is very nice, however, I can't guarantee all the other Estrella diamonds will be as good. On the other hand, SK's True Hearts loose stone sample is not nice, but seller said that it is perfect Hearts & Arrows. But then, this can't guarantee other True Hearts won't be good. So, what I am trying to say is that you have to see it to believe it.

Some diamond shops are actually sister companies. For example:
1. DeGem & Diamond & Platinum
2. Tomei & My Diamond & LeLumiere & Gold Heart
3. SK & Love & Co

Hope this helps.

All the best in your diamond hunt!

It was 1.9k when I spoke to her for the ring. I remember asking for Plat as well, goes all the way up to 4.5k.