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Advice Wanted [WTA] Proposal Ring & Wedding Bands, Please advice me!! Need Help!!

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kambingkoh
post Nov 29 2016, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ Nov 29 2016, 08:35 AM)
It was 1.9k when I spoke to her for the ring.  I remember asking for Plat as well,  goes all the way up to 4.5k.
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Oh my. Getting more and more expensive. blink.gif Thanks for the update! smile.gif
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post Nov 29 2016, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Nov 29 2016, 08:38 AM)
Oh my. Getting more and more expensive.  blink.gif Thanks for the update!  smile.gif
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Cost of gold (in RM) has been going up. Check Poh Kong and Wah Chan. They just upped their gold price by RM 5 per gram last week or this week. This is despite the fact that gold price is dropping internationally.

But if you buy the diamond from her, I think can get cheaper ring.
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post Nov 29 2016, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ Nov 29 2016, 12:24 PM)
Cost of gold (in RM) has been going up.  Check Poh Kong and Wah Chan.  They just upped their gold price by RM 5 per gram last week or this week.  This is despite the fact that gold price is dropping internationally.

But if you buy the diamond from her, I think can get cheaper ring.
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Yeap. You are right. Ring setting will usually be cheaper if paired together with diamond. I can't remember her diamond price range, but I remembered it is not the cheapest around. And with the current USD exchange rate, things are even more expensive.
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post Dec 5 2016, 07:36 PM

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need help

want to buy a ring with the following spec. need all sifu here to advice worth to buy or not.

1) 0.46 carat D VS2 3EX with 18k 28mg ring = RM8500 (attach GIA file here)

2) 0.46 carat E VS2 3EX with 18k 28mg ring = RM8000

please advice urgent need help.

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post Dec 6 2016, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(kinx @ Dec 5 2016, 07:36 PM)
need help

want  to buy a ring with the following spec.  need all sifu here to advice worth to buy or not.

1) 0.46 carat  D  VS2  3EX  with 18k 28mg ring = RM8500 (attach GIA file here)

2) 0.46 carat  E VS2 3EX with 18k 28mg ring = RM8000

please advice urgent need help.

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GIA cert number will be useful. Do you have it?

Also, may I know which shop/vendor offer you this package?
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post Dec 6 2016, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(kinx @ Dec 5 2016, 07:36 PM)
need help

want  to buy a ring with the following spec.  need all sifu here to advice worth to buy or not.

1) 0.46 carat  D  VS2  3EX  with 18k 28mg ring = RM8500 (attach GIA file here)

2) 0.46 carat  E VS2 3EX with 18k 28mg ring = RM8000

please advice urgent need help.

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0.9 HCA score, not bad thumbsup.gif
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post Dec 7 2016, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Dec 6 2016, 04:01 PM)
GIA cert number will be useful. Do you have it?

Also, may I know which shop/vendor offer you this package?
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GIA 7226662326

WC offer this me package. good deal?
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post Dec 7 2016, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(kinx @ Dec 7 2016, 09:47 AM)
GIA 7226662326

WC offer this me package. good deal?
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The proportions offered are good. Read this:
http://www.prosumerdiamonds.com/how-to-pick-diamond/

Based on the numbers, the diamond should perform well. And XiuKeong also calculated HCA score of 0.9, which makes this stone a candidate to consider. For the price of RM 8,500, personally think that it is a fair price for a brick-and-mortar shop. Don't think other brick-and-mortar will be able to beat this price. Wah Chan is famous for competitive price anyway. Btw, 0.46ct should be close enough to look like a 0.5ct. rclxms.gif

The next thing to do (if possible) is to request for the Hearts & Arrows images or any other images. If the actual diamond is in the shop itself, even better, you can view the diamond from the top and from the bottom, to take a look at the Hearts & Arrows. Be sure to take a good look at the diamond and see if it looks nice to you (you know, fire and whiteness, things like that). Lastly, ask them for the location of the inclusion (The crystal, the feather, as stated in the GIA cert). You don't want something that is too easy to crack.

Good luck and enjoy your diamond hunting. icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Dec 7 2016, 10:39 AM
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post Dec 7 2016, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Dec 7 2016, 10:39 AM)
The proportions offered are good. Read this:
http://www.prosumerdiamonds.com/how-to-pick-diamond/

Based on the numbers, the diamond should perform well. And XiuKeong also calculated HCA score of 0.9, which makes this stone a candidate to consider. For the price of RM 8,500, personally think that it is a fair price for a brick-and-mortar shop. Don't think other brick-and-mortar will be able to beat this price. Wah Chan is famous for competitive price anyway. Btw, 0.46ct should be close enough to look like a 0.5ct.  rclxms.gif

The next thing to do (if possible) is to request for the Hearts & Arrows images or any other images. If the actual diamond is in the shop itself, even better, you can view the diamond from the top and from the bottom, to take a look at the Hearts & Arrows. Be sure to take a good look at the diamond and see if it looks nice to you (you know, fire and whiteness, things like that). Lastly, ask them for the location of the inclusion (The crystal, the feather, as stated in the GIA cert). You don't want something that is too easy to crack.

Good luck and enjoy your diamond hunting.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thanks for the details explanation. thumbup.gif You info is very helpful and will go and check again.


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post Dec 7 2016, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(kinx @ Dec 7 2016, 10:58 AM)
Thanks for the details explanation.  thumbup.gif   You info is very helpful and will go and check again.
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Well, just checked on Audrey's for price comparison. You can probably try to negotiate your price further down for that D colour VS2. wink.gif Perhaps to around RM 7,800 - RM 8,000? However, do note that CUT will make a big price difference, since the proportions looks good, so what's left is to view the actual diamond. So, if you can see the hearts and arrows clearly and you like the diamond appearance, then do negotiate with full force.

Another thing to note is that the ring setting itself does play a part in the pricing. You can check with the salesperson what material are they giving. Is it 18K white gold? If yes, then it will consists of 75% gold + 25% others. You can then check with he/she what is the 25%, does it contain palladium?

On a side note, for your price, you can try to check with iDo Jewellery and see what price range she offers you. She does provide ASET, H&A, Actual Diamond images.

For even cheaper option, you can try to check with Tailored Jewel, which is currently running a promotion for 0.40 E VS2 + 18K White Gold Ring for RM 5,900. Your diamond is bigger and has better colour, so the price should be higher.

Hope this helps. smile.gif

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Dec 7 2016, 12:05 PM
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post Dec 8 2016, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Dec 7 2016, 11:44 AM)
Well, just checked on Audrey's for price comparison. You can probably try to negotiate your price further down for that D colour VS2. wink.gif Perhaps to around RM 7,800 - RM 8,000? However, do note that CUT will make a big price difference, since the proportions looks good, so what's left is to view the actual diamond. So, if you can see the hearts and arrows clearly and you like the diamond appearance, then do negotiate with full force.

Another thing to note is that the ring setting itself does play a part in the pricing. You can check with the salesperson what material are they giving. Is it 18K white gold? If yes, then it will consists of 75% gold + 25% others. You can then check with he/she what is the 25%, does it contain palladium?

On a side note, for your price, you can try to check with iDo Jewellery and see what price range she offers you. She does provide ASET, H&A, Actual Diamond images.

For even cheaper option, you can try to check with Tailored Jewel, which is currently running a promotion for 0.40 E VS2 + 18K White Gold Ring for RM 5,900. Your diamond is bigger and has better colour, so the price should be higher.

Hope this helps.  smile.gif
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Checked the Heart and Arrow. Except 1 arrow edge is not that symmetry but overall still nice. I cant compare the rest too bling bling and final price 8.2K and close the deal.
Got other stone with same spec and size new price 9k+ before discount. Guess mine stone not cheap and not expensive and reasonable?. Anyway finally settle my bling bling stone. rclxms.gif

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post Dec 8 2016, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(kinx @ Dec 8 2016, 08:25 PM)
Checked the Heart and Arrow.  Except 1 arrow edge is not that symmetry but overall still nice.  I cant compare the rest too bling bling and final price 8.2K and close the deal.
Got other stone with same spec and size new price 9k+ before discount.  Guess mine stone not cheap and not expensive and reasonable?. Anyway finally settle my bling bling stone.  rclxms.gif
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Great to hear that! wink.gif Chosen the ring setting?
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post Dec 9 2016, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Dec 8 2016, 10:55 PM)
Great to hear that! wink.gif Chosen the ring setting?
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yes. 6 prong rings
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post Dec 9 2016, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(kinx @ Dec 9 2016, 02:05 PM)
yes.  6 prong rings
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Hmm, no 4 prongs selection? Anyway, how is the variety of ring settings available in Wah Chan?
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post Dec 9 2016, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Dec 9 2016, 03:19 PM)
Hmm, no 4 prongs selection? Anyway, how is the variety of ring settings available in Wah Chan?
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i prefer 6 prongs ring. yes they do have other 4 prong , single etc. but 6 i found is the best looking.

may be i choose loose stone smile.gif overall WC consider good and helpful. i found they have one 0.4 IF stone.. 10k+ ahhahah
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post Dec 10 2016, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(kinx @ Dec 9 2016, 04:34 PM)
i prefer 6 prongs ring.  yes they do have other 4 prong , single etc.  but 6 i found is the best looking.

may be i choose loose stone smile.gif  overall WC consider good and helpful.  i found they have one 0.4 IF stone.. 10k+  ahhahah
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Lol. Still have to see the proportions to determine how good is the stone. Anyway, there is really no need to go til IF. It is better to opt for Color instead.

Glad that you finally sealed the deal. Hope that your proposal is a successful one!

Cheers!
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post Dec 11 2016, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Dec 6 2016, 09:35 PM)
0.9 HCA score, not bad  thumbsup.gif
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Even with a low HCA score, he will still need to view the stone under the ASET scope to determine its light performance.
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post Dec 12 2016, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Dec 11 2016, 07:08 PM)
Even with a low HCA score, he will still need to view the stone under the ASET scope to determine its light performance.
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Yeap. Never rely on HCA alone. It is just a rough guidance as rejection tool.
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post Dec 13 2016, 09:01 AM

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Hi peeps.

I am currently hunting for a heart shaped diamond for my proposal. Was offered a 0.73 F VS2 by JannPaul in Singapore for S$4,800. Looked through the ASET scope and found quite a lot of green areas but less red areas. Is this normal for heart shapes? Its Idealscope image looks OK though, filled with red areas all around. When I tested the diamond under the GemEx tool together with an ideal cut round brilliant, to my surprise, it sparkled well, although slightly less sparkly than a round brilliant.

Then the diamond was viewed through a 10x loupe in order to check for symmetry and inclusions. It looks ok; the lobes are symmetrical and its cleft is well defined. Its inclusions can be hardly seen.

Do you guys think this is worth a price tag of S$4,800?
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post Dec 13 2016, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Dec 11 2016, 07:08 PM)
Even with a low HCA score, he will still need to view the stone under the ASET scope to determine its light performance.
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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Dec 12 2016, 12:39 PM)
Yeap. Never rely on HCA alone. It is just a rough guidance as rejection tool.
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Just saying that at least there's hope of this diamond can be a good find.

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